Question about full+upgrade version

I thought I had better put my question in it's own thread. Anyway how do you tell the difference between a windows cd that is an upgrade and one that is a full version? Sorry if this sounds a bit dim but I thought I had the full version cd as the cd cover says.'for use with a blank pc', however I used it to to fix a bit of a nasty missing sound/files problem(by installing over windows 98se that was already present) and it shows as an upgrade and appears to have been treated as such when I check the system information. However I also have a very old machine running 95 which I tried to upgrade to 98se and it says I need the full version(I didn't use the same win98se cd). What is the oem bit about?

There are 4 different versions floating around of win98SE (in addition there
are restore CD which is product specific - like Compaq)

1. Retail Full Version - This is a version that would have been sold in
any retail store. This version can be used for upgrades or clean installs.
It does not require a qualifying product when used for clean install. (Most
expensive)

2. Retail Upgrade Version -This version can be used for upgrade or clean
install. However, if using it for a clean install it requires proof of a
qualifying product during the installation process. (Cheaper than 1 above)

3. OEM Version - This version can only be obtained when purchased with some
hardware. Typically, this is the version that came with computers. It is
also the version most commonly found on ebay and in online stores presently.
It was quite a bit cheaper than 1 or 2 above.
This version does not allow upgrades (it may be tricked at times). It was
designed for a clean install . Typically, there will be some text on the CD
stating something like "For distribution with a new PC only. For product
support contact the manufacturer of your PC"

4. Microsoft released a Update Version of Win98SE. This version could only
be used to upgrade an existing Win98 installation to win98SE. It could not
be used to upgrade previous windows versions like win95 or win3.1. Neither
could it be used for a clean install.
It was the cheapest approach but assumed that you already had win98
installed.

None of the above has been manufactured for quite awhile. However, they can
be found in some online outlets as well as on ebay. The most common is the
OEM version.

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Jon Hildrum
DTS MVP

www.hildrum.com
"PSYCHOPIXIE" wrote in message
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I thought I had better put my question in it's own thread. Anyway how do
you tell the difference between a windows cd that is an upgrade and one
that is a full version? Sorry if this sounds a bit dim but I thought I
had the full version cd as the cd cover says.'for use with a blank pc',
however I used it to to fix a bit of a nasty missing sound/files
problem(by installing over windows 98se that was already present) and
it shows as an upgrade and appears to have been treated as such when I
check the system information. However I also have a very old machine
running 95 which I tried to upgrade to 98se and it says I need the full
version(I didn't use the same win98se cd). What is the oem bit about?


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PSYCHOPIXIE

Jon_Hildrum wrote:

There are 4 different versions floating around of win98SE ......

[snip]

3. OEM Version - This version can only be obtained when purchased with some

hardware. Typically, this is the version that came with computers. It is
also the version most commonly found on ebay and in online stores presently.
It was quite a bit cheaper than 1 or 2 above.
This version does not allow upgrades (it may be tricked at times). It was
designed for a clean install . Typically, there will be some text on the CD
stating something like "For distribution with a new PC only. For product
support contact the manufacturer of your PC"

Can you elaborate on the "trick"? Need to upgrade from W95 to 98se w/o clearing
the disk if possible.

Thanks,

Dick

http://support.microsoft.com/default...kb;en-us;96759
UPGRADE WITH OEM CD.
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
wrote in message
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Can you elaborate on the "trick"? Need to upgrade from W95 to 98se w/o
clearing
the disk if possible.

Is this the KB you meant Jeff?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;188881

96759 refers to EMM386 error.

Thanks,

Dick

Jeff Richards wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...kb;en-us;96759
UPGRADE WITH OEM CD.
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
wrote in message
...
snip

Can you elaborate on the "trick"? Need to upgrade from W95 to 98se w/o
clearing
the disk if possible.

I see. But how do I know what one I have? I have one cd in a case with the 'for distribution with a new pc' bit on it and I have a copy (purchased from ebay thinking I was getting a real one) also. I have used both(on different occasions of course) over the top of my current Windows 98se which it treats as an upgrade. My pc is a compaq one.

Originally Posted by Jon_Hildrum

There are 4 different versions floating around of win98SE (in addition there
are restore CD which is product specific - like Compaq)

1. Retail Full Version - This is a version that would have been sold in
any retail store. This version can be used for upgrades or clean installs.
It does not require a qualifying product when used for clean install. (Most
expensive)

2. Retail Upgrade Version -This version can be used for upgrade or clean
install. However, if using it for a clean install it requires proof of a
qualifying product during the installation process. (Cheaper than 1 above)

3. OEM Version - This version can only be obtained when purchased with some
hardware. Typically, this is the version that came with computers. It is
also the version most commonly found on ebay and in online stores presently.
It was quite a bit cheaper than 1 or 2 above.
This version does not allow upgrades (it may be tricked at times). It was
designed for a clean install . Typically, there will be some text on the CD
stating something like "For distribution with a new PC only. For product
support contact the manufacturer of your PC"

4. Microsoft released a Update Version of Win98SE. This version could only
be used to upgrade an existing Win98 installation to win98SE. It could not
be used to upgrade previous windows versions like win95 or win3.1. Neither
could it be used for a clean install.
It was the cheapest approach but assumed that you already had win98
installed.

None of the above has been manufactured for quite awhile. However, they can
be found in some online outlets as well as on ebay. The most common is the
OEM version.

--
Jon Hildrum
DTS MVP

www.hildrum.com
"PSYCHOPIXIE" wrote in message
...

I thought I had better put my question in it's own thread. Anyway how do
you tell the difference between a windows cd that is an upgrade and one
that is a full version? Sorry if this sounds a bit dim but I thought I
had the full version cd as the cd cover says.'for use with a blank pc',
however I used it to to fix a bit of a nasty missing sound/files
problem(by installing over windows 98se that was already present) and
it shows as an upgrade and appears to have been treated as such when I
check the system information. However I also have a very old machine
running 95 which I tried to upgrade to 98se and it says I need the full
version(I didn't use the same win98se cd). What is the oem bit about?


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PSYCHOPIXIE

Not even close ;-) Try this instead
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/upgrade.html
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Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
wrote in message
...
Is this the KB you meant Jeff?
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;188881

96759 refers to EMM386 error.