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gotta say.. so long ME
webster72n wrote:
"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote in message news On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:23:18 -0400, "webster72n" My BIOS shows the AGP Driving value fixed at '64' with an 'x' to the left. According to SiSoft I have one PCI/AGP Bus each. The 4-in-1 drivers are installed. And there is no mention of AGP in Device Manager. Since everything is working allright, I might as well forget about this. Agreed... "tip-toe away quietly" ;-) Tho it's disturbing in the sense of interpreting answers to questions one might ask that aim to find out whether a user's AGP base drivers are in place, in the context where all is not well (e.g. "I can't install my display drivers, they just don't 'take' when I try") According to 'SiSoft' and/or 'Aida32' and/or 'Everest' HE the drivers are installed, I 'm just unable to manipulate it in the BIOS, which means to me: leave it alone. So, it's faint rather than bold, Harry? (I can't think what you actually call it other than 'greyed out' and its extremely unlikely to be a shade of grey!) If it's bold, you should be able to change it (x64 seems a little high for onboard - but then, unlike Chris, I'm not a system builder, and if he says its normal...). If 'greyed out' (alright, I'm going for grey after all) I'd have thought it means installed but access deemed unnecessary. This machine had onboard - first I've had - but I wasn't interested changing anything until I'd fitted a card, so I haven't actually seen that you can change the multiplier with onboard video. Again, if Chris says you can, that's good enough for me. I do know that even with 128MB on the card it may be better having x64 selected because this isn't a setting like you expect it to be whereby the bigger is always better. Trying to think how to explain it but all I can think of is polarised light waves. Shane |
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"Shane" wrote in message ... webster72n wrote: "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" wrote in message news On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:23:18 -0400, "webster72n" My BIOS shows the AGP Driving value fixed at '64' with an 'x' to the left. According to SiSoft I have one PCI/AGP Bus each. The 4-in-1 drivers are installed. And there is no mention of AGP in Device Manager. Since everything is working allright, I might as well forget about this. Agreed... "tip-toe away quietly" ;-) Tho it's disturbing in the sense of interpreting answers to questions one might ask that aim to find out whether a user's AGP base drivers are in place, in the context where all is not well (e.g. "I can't install my display drivers, they just don't 'take' when I try") According to 'SiSoft' and/or 'Aida32' and/or 'Everest' HE the drivers are installed, I 'm just unable to manipulate it in the BIOS, which means to me: leave it alone. So, it's faint rather than bold, Harry? (I can't think what you actually call it other than 'greyed out' and its extremely unlikely to be a shade of grey!) If it's bold, you should be able to change it (x64 seems a little high for onboard - but then, unlike Chris, I'm not a system builder, and if he says its normal...). If 'greyed out' (alright, I'm going for grey after all) I'd have thought it means installed but access deemed unnecessary. This machine had onboard - first I've had - but I wasn't interested changing anything until I'd fitted a card, so I haven't actually seen that you can change the multiplier with onboard video. Again, if Chris says you can, that's good enough for me. I do know that even with 128MB on the card it may be better having x64 selected because this isn't a setting like you expect it to be whereby the bigger is always better. Trying to think how to explain it but all I can think of is polarised light waves. Shane Here it goes Shane, the details: 'AGP Aperture size' in bold and set at 64M 'AGP Driving Control' in bold and set at 'Auto'. 'xAGP Driving Value' faint and 'set at 64'. 'AGP Master 1 WS Write' in bold and disabled 'AGP Master 1 WS Read' in bold and disabled. The four settings 'in bold' I can control, the driving value not, probably because it's 'on board'. Maybe this will shed some light on the situation. Harry. |
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Harry,
Driving Value is faint (you can't change it) because Driving Control is set to Auto. Set to (presumably) Manual, you would be able to alter it - but, while you have to 'Save Changes and Exit' to actually affect anything, this is a value you can fry things by setting wrong, ie 'overclocking'. As it does work, leave it alone. Shane Here it goes Shane, the details: 'AGP Aperture size' in bold and set at 64M 'AGP Driving Control' in bold and set at 'Auto'. 'xAGP Driving Value' faint and 'set at 64'. 'AGP Master 1 WS Write' in bold and disabled 'AGP Master 1 WS Read' in bold and disabled. The four settings 'in bold' I can control, the driving value not, probably because it's 'on board'. Maybe this will shed some light on the situation. |
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gotta say.. so long ME
I did try that already, Shane, with no consequence. Hence I gave it up. "Shane" wrote in message ... Harry, Driving Value is faint (you can't change it) because Driving Control is set to Auto. Set to (presumably) Manual, you would be able to alter it - but, while you have to 'Save Changes and Exit' to actually affect anything, this is a value you can fry things by setting wrong, ie 'overclocking'. As it does work, leave it alone. Shane Here it goes Shane, the details: 'AGP Aperture size' in bold and set at 64M 'AGP Driving Control' in bold and set at 'Auto'. 'xAGP Driving Value' faint and 'set at 64'. 'AGP Master 1 WS Write' in bold and disabled 'AGP Master 1 WS Read' in bold and disabled. The four settings 'in bold' I can control, the driving value not, probably because it's 'on board'. Maybe this will shed some light on the situation. |
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Did what, Harry? Apart from the fact I'm telling you not to do anything. Are
you playing with the CMOS these days? If you're going to press every button just because you can, can I ask you to make some audio recordings? 'Cause we won't hear it from here. Shane webster72n wrote: I did try that already, Shane, with no consequence. Hence I gave it up. "Shane" wrote in message ... Harry, Driving Value is faint (you can't change it) because Driving Control is set to Auto. Set to (presumably) Manual, you would be able to alter it - but, while you have to 'Save Changes and Exit' to actually affect anything, this is a value you can fry things by setting wrong, ie 'overclocking'. As it does work, leave it alone. Shane Here it goes Shane, the details: 'AGP Aperture size' in bold and set at 64M 'AGP Driving Control' in bold and set at 'Auto'. 'xAGP Driving Value' faint and 'set at 64'. 'AGP Master 1 WS Write' in bold and disabled 'AGP Master 1 WS Read' in bold and disabled. The four settings 'in bold' I can control, the driving value not, probably because it's 'on board'. Maybe this will shed some light on the situation. |
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Shane:
At one time I did set it to manual, but since it asks for a hex # to be keyed in, I abandoned any further attempts, because I don't know of such a number. What specific recordings would you like to hear, a f**t perhaps? Stay tuned... Harry. "Shane" wrote in message ... Did what, Harry? Apart from the fact I'm telling you not to do anything. Are you playing with the CMOS these days? If you're going to press every button just because you can, can I ask you to make some audio recordings? 'Cause we won't hear it from here. Shane webster72n wrote: I did try that already, Shane, with no consequence. Hence I gave it up. "Shane" wrote in message ... Harry, Driving Value is faint (you can't change it) because Driving Control is set to Auto. Set to (presumably) Manual, you would be able to alter it - but, while you have to 'Save Changes and Exit' to actually affect anything, this is a value you can fry things by setting wrong, ie 'overclocking'. As it does work, leave it alone. Shane Here it goes Shane, the details: 'AGP Aperture size' in bold and set at 64M 'AGP Driving Control' in bold and set at 'Auto'. 'xAGP Driving Value' faint and 'set at 64'. 'AGP Master 1 WS Write' in bold and disabled 'AGP Master 1 WS Read' in bold and disabled. The four settings 'in bold' I can control, the driving value not, probably because it's 'on board'. Maybe this will shed some light on the situation. |
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OK Harry,
At one time I did set it to manual, but since it asks for a hex # to be keyed in, I abandoned any further attempts, because I don't know of such a number. Really? Interesting. What specific recordings would you like to hear, a f**t perhaps? Stay tuned... LOL! I must admit I feel extremely childish saying eg, v. good, to that, but v. good anyway! Shane |
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gotta say.. so long ME
"Shane" wrote in message ... OK Harry, At one time I did set it to manual, but since it asks for a hex # to be keyed in, I abandoned any further attempts, because I don't know of such a number. Really? Interesting. What's so interesting about that, Shane?? What specific recordings would you like to hear, a f**t perhaps? Stay tuned... LOL! I must admit I feel extremely childish saying eg, v. good, to that, but v. good anyway! Childish we are and 'childlike' we shall remain. How else can we keep our hopes alive? BTW a couple of years ago I updated my BIOS with help from the 'proper' sources in the form of a 'floppy disk' and no problems whatsoever. To preempt any thoughts in this direction, the AGP situation was 'preexisting'. Keep in mind to never underestimate the child in you. H. Shane |
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gotta say.. so long ME
"webster72n" wrote in message ... "Shane" wrote in message ... OK Harry, At one time I did set it to manual, but since it asks for a hex # to be keyed in, I abandoned any further attempts, because I don't know of such a number. Really? Interesting. What's so interesting about that, Shane?? What specific recordings would you like to hear, a f**t perhaps? Stay tuned... LOL! I must admit I feel extremely childish saying eg, v. good, to that, but v. good anyway! Childish we are and 'childlike' we shall remain. How else can we keep our hopes alive? BTW a couple of years ago I updated should read: "upgraded", of course. my BIOS with help from the 'proper' sources in the form of a 'floppy disk' and no problems whatsoever. To preempt any thoughts in this direction, the AGP situation was 'preexisting'. Keep in mind to never underestimate the child in you. H. Shane |
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