windows clock

PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.

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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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The motherboard battery is typically a disk-type such as you find in
watches, though much larger than a watch battery. About /8 to 1 inch
in
diameter. It's in a clip mounting, relatively easy to swap--*if* the
case is arranged to make it easy to get to. You won't know what model
battery until you remove the old one unless your motherboard
documentation includes the info.

As Dan notes, malware (viruses, spyware, adware) sometimes has this
effect, also, though it is certainly not limited to such. It can eve
be
a simple procedure like moving a ton of files that will cause the
slowdown. However, since yours is a chronic affair, I'd suspect
malware
or a background app or an app that you use heavily.

For suggestions on malware removal and protection, and hints on how to
create a Clean Boot environment suitable for starting a
trouble-shooting
procedure, see the articles in my signature.

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MS MVP Shell/User
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http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Tim" wrote in message
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Thanks for these pointers--I just reset the time so I'll have to
wait
to
check if the clock resets upon restart. But if the motherboard
battery
is
going dead, what do I do for that! I've never even heard of a
motherboard
battery. What does it do? Thanks again, Tim

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Does it reset to correct time when you restart? If not, your
motherboard
battery is going dead. If the clock resets to correct time when
you
restart, it's a known problem caused by any number of programs.
The
technical explanation is a bit involved, but the only solutions
are
to
1. Determine which program(s) cause the problem and get along
without
them, or 2. Get an app that regularly checks an online atomic
click
and
synchronizes your clock. There are many such apps out there. I
don't
have any recommendations.

--
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MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Tim" wrote in message
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Does anybody know why my Windows clock doesn't keep correct
time.
It
seems to
fall behind the right time. Thanks, Tim

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
When I posted my previous response here, I had just started a Copy
operation of some 16 GB on a WIn98SE system (fresh install.) Copying
my wife's entire WinXP system to another drive. (Old drive went bad.)
It's been running about an hour and a half--and has lost 20 minutes
on the clock.

Don't know about now but in "the old days" interrupts had to be disabled
before all disk (floppy) read/writes and a DI meant the clock lost time.

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"dadiOH" wrote in message
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Gary S. Terhune wrote:
When I posted my previous response here, I had just started a Copy
operation of some 16 GB on a WIn98SE system (fresh install.) Copying
my wife's entire WinXP system to another drive. (Old drive went
bad.)
It's been running about an hour and a half--and has lost 20 minutes
on the clock.

Don't know about now but in "the old days" interrupts had to be
disabled
before all disk (floppy) read/writes and a DI meant the clock lost
time.



Yup, and that's also the case for many other low-level operations.

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MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/default...12&Product=w98
Restart or Network Connection Changes Computer Date and Time

To determine whether it is something in Windows or something pre-Windows
(battery/BIOS setting)...

(1) Set clock in Windows. Shut down overnight (or long enough).
(2) Boot to Command Prompt Only, by holding CTRL as you boot to get the
Startup Menu, if it isn't already enabled at "START, Run, MSConfig,
Advanced button".
(3) Enter "TIME", no quotes. (Then, ENTER, to exit w/o changing.)
(4) Ctrl-Alt-Del to boot Windows.

Was the time wrong in DOS?.. It's the battery or BIOS, then. Otherwise,
it is something about Windows, maybe the Startup Group or a driver.

C:\time/?
Displays or sets the system time.

TIME [time]

Type TIME with no parameters to display the current time setting and a
prompt for a new one. Press ENTER to keep the same time.

C:\time
Current time is 6:54:27.68p
Enter new time:

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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Tim" wrote in message
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| Does anybody know why my Windows clock doesn't keep correct time. It
seems to
| fall behind the right time. Thanks, Tim

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
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There are such utilities, yes. But you have to get past BIOS to load a
floppy. While there's not likely to be any problem doing that, I prefer
going straight into BIOS and configuring before *anything* else.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure
to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings
there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
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"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
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Yes. There are programs available to do that.

I know I have one lying around somewhere,
perhaps on one of my Resource Kits.

I've never had a need for it. I just use autodetect,
or punch in the drive parameters stamped on the label.

Hugh Candlin wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in message
...

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
--
To reply by email remove "_nospam"


Yes. There are programs available to do that.

I know I have one lying around somewhere,
perhaps on one of my Resource Kits.

I've never had a need for it. I just use autodetect,
or punch in the drive parameters stamped on the label.



I've never written down any of my bios settings. Does the "print screen"
button work while in the bios. If so maybe I'll just go to the critical
sections and print them out.


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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:17:03 -0500, Chuck
wrote:

Hugh Candlin wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in message
...

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
--
To reply by email remove "_nospam"


Yes. There are programs available to do that.

I know I have one lying around somewhere,
perhaps on one of my Resource Kits.

I've never had a need for it. I just use autodetect,
or punch in the drive parameters stamped on the label.



I've never written down any of my bios settings. Does the "print screen"
button work while in the bios. If so maybe I'll just go to the critical
sections and print them out.

Chuck,

Get Cmossave/cmosrest.zip. It's a small utility. The program will
record the CMOS settings into a file and restore them whenever
needed. Read the text file. Put a copy of the CMOS saved file on the
HDD and a floppy.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4049.html

I have version 1.4 but haven't used it.
Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:49:26 -0500, Bill Watt
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 14:17:03 -0500, Chuck
wrote:

Hugh Candlin wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in message
...

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

PS- Tim, if you decide that the mobo battery needs changing, be sure to
go into BIOS *before* changing it and write down all the settings there.
You'll have to reset them after replacing the battery.


Isn't there a way to save the BIOS settings to a floppy (you probably
couldn't access the HD after yanking the battery).
--
To reply by email remove "_nospam"


Yes. There are programs available to do that.

I know I have one lying around somewhere,
perhaps on one of my Resource Kits.

I've never had a need for it. I just use autodetect,
or punch in the drive parameters stamped on the label.



I've never written down any of my bios settings. Does the "print screen"
button work while in the bios. If so maybe I'll just go to the critical
sections and print them out.

Chuck,

Get Cmossave/cmosrest.zip. It's a small utility. The program will
record the CMOS settings into a file and restore them whenever
needed. Read the text file. Put a copy of the CMOS saved file on the
HDD and a floppy.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4049.html

I have version 1.4 but haven't used it.

I just got ver 3.8. The Ga download site didn't work but the Fla.
one did. It's only 29k.

Don't keep old saves around so you don't accidentally restore an old
one.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/