Ugrade from 98 OEM to 98SE Retail

OK, you're good to go--*except* that if your system is now a fully
updated Windows 98, installing that Upgrade will actually constitute a
significant downgrade. Any number of patches may get broken, and DLL
Hell will surely result, even if only in small doses. You will find
yourself with a much healthier system if you install Win98SE "clean" to
a freshly formatted partition. You can either reformat your current
system, or you can set up a dual-boot scenario using a partition/boot
manager like BootIt NG (www.bootitng.com.) You can then take your time
setting up SE just the way you like it, installing the latest 3rd-party
apps like AcroReader, etc., while still retaining your old system for
daily use until you get the new one set up just right. Then, somewhere
down the line, you can delete the old system and recover the space.

A retail Upgrade CD can clean install by simply showing Setup your
qualifying media (in this case, the Win98 FE CD that came with your
system.) Worst case, you install First Edition with zero
option--barebones--then Upgrade.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Mouse" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all who replied.
I just wanted to make sure before doing the upgrade.
Just for clarification, I already have the retail 98SE
Upgrade disk, I need USB 2 support, and want to
install some software that lists 98SE as the minimum
OS requirement.

"Mouse" wrote in message
...


I have a Gateway PC that came with Win 98 installed.
Can I upgrade it to Win 98SE using a retail Win 98SE Upgrade CD,
or do I have to use a special OEM upgrade CD from Gateway?


Mouse

Hi gary,
cute puppy.... lol.

regards Jane

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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Down, boy. The "dumb question" in Chuck's case was his own. He wasn't
being at all rude. He really wondered why anyone would want to upgrade
to WIN98SE from FE. Fact is, I didn't consider it worth the effort until
well into SE's lifecycle, and even now, I only recommend it if specific
requirements apply.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
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Chuck, it is not a dumb question and that was quite rude and uncalled
for.
In this newsgroup, we are caring and concerned individuals. If you
want to
be a troll then visit the XP general newsgroup because they have
plenty of
trolls there. Anyway 98SE gives users compared to 98 FE:

USB 2.0 support through third party software
WMP 9 (if the user wants it)
Better software support (many games and programs now require 98SE as
the bare
minimum)
Better hardware support (USB 2.0, better firewire support, better
driver
management, etc.)
Some other stuff but this is what is on the top of my head (LOL)

"Chuck" wrote in message
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: Mouse wrote:
: I have a Gateway PC that came with Win 98 installed.
: Can I upgrade it to Win 98SE using a retail Win 98SE Upgrade CD,
: or do I have to use a special OEM upgrade CD from Gateway?
:
: Thanks,
:
: Mouse
:
:
:
: Dumb question but why would you want to?
:
: --
: To reply by email remove "_nospam"

No, *these* are cute puppies! (approx. 1.25 Kilos each at eight weeks.)

http://grystmill.com/pups/one_week.jpg
http://grystmill.com/pups/three_weeks.jpg
http://grystmill.com/pups/eight_weeks.jpg

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"jane" wrote in message
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Hi gary,
cute puppy.... lol.

regards Jane

Hi,
aaaaaaaaaaaaah, aint they just darling,
mum looks so content too.
Thanks for sharing.

regards Jane

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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No, *these* are cute puppies! (approx. 1.25 Kilos each at eight weeks.)

http://grystmill.com/pups/one_week.jpg
http://grystmill.com/pups/three_weeks.jpg
http://grystmill.com/pups/eight_weeks.jpg

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"jane" wrote in message
...
Hi gary,
cute puppy.... lol.

regards Jane

Very nice, Gary. My favorite picture in the bunch was the puppies at eight
weeks. That picture really showed them off well in a good light.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
:
: No, *these* are cute puppies! (approx. 1.25 Kilos each at eight weeks.)
:
: http://grystmill.com/pups/one_week.jpg
: http://grystmill.com/pups/three_weeks.jpg
: http://grystmill.com/pups/eight_weeks.jpg
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: "Security!"
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "jane" wrote in message
: ...
: Hi gary,
: cute puppy.... lol.
:
: regards Jane
:

Yeah, well it *just* makes up for the hell they're starting to raise!
Never knew a two-pound puppy could run that fast or bite that hard!
Favorite nibble is my Achilles tendon. That or my big toe. And with
three to contend with, they like to tag-team me.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
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Very nice, Gary. My favorite picture in the bunch was the puppies at
eight
weeks. That picture really showed them off well in a good light.

Now, I am sure they are providing great fun and entertainment as well as
keeping you busy and amused. What are the puppie's names? Also, I am
reminded of Achilles from Greek Mythology, the Trojan War and the Illiad. I
studied Greek and Roman Classics in college as well as being a Cultural
Anthropology minor with an emphasis in Middle Eastern Studies. I also took
some computer courses and I have graduated from the University of Arizona
with a 3.2 GPA. I now am considering going back and either taking some more
computer courses for fun or majoring in computers and then I will really be a
force to be reckoned with in this day and age. LOL!!

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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: Yeah, well it *just* makes up for the hell they're starting to raise!
: Never knew a two-pound puppy could run that fast or bite that hard!
: Favorite nibble is my Achilles tendon. That or my big toe. And with
: three to contend with, they like to tag-team me.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: "Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: "Security!"
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Very nice, Gary. My favorite picture in the bunch was the puppies at
: eight
: weeks. That picture really showed them off well in a good light.
:

Brownie, Blackie and Beauty. Temporarily. When they were first born, we
assumed they'd be given away, thus I grabbed some names that were fast
and easy. As it is, my wife has decided to keep Brownie. Perhaps she'll
rename him, perhaps she won't. Brownie is male, and will fade to a
lighter "Apricot" as he grows up. Blackie is male and will turn silver.
Beauty (my favorite) is female and has what's known as "Phantom"
markings. Black (though that may turn towards silver) with cream-colored
paws, cheeks, and eyebrows--and a cream stripe up her rear, from belly
to tail. Grandparents are all AKC Registered Toy Poodle. We haven't
bothered to register the parents, which we got from two different
breeders. Some time in the next week or two, the males are going to new
homes. Probably two elderly ladies who live down the street.

Yeah, the last couple of days they've started outgrowing the house with
their shenanigans, but it's too cold outside to leave them for long.
Been a month since the snowstorms and there's still a foot or two on the
north sides of fences, buildings, etc.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
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Now, I am sure they are providing great fun and entertainment as well
as
keeping you busy and amused. What are the puppie's names?

It is so nice to hear that you have lots of snow. I love snow but I would
hate to have to drive in it all the time. It is ironic that I live in Tucson
since I love cold weather and snow but I like the Christian church that I go
to here and right now we are being blessed by God with a great deal of rain
and I am loving life. I hope that the dogs get good homes and I think a dog
is just what you need, Gary. :

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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: Brownie, Blackie and Beauty. Temporarily. When they were first born, we
: assumed they'd be given away, thus I grabbed some names that were fast
: and easy. As it is, my wife has decided to keep Brownie. Perhaps she'll
: rename him, perhaps she won't. Brownie is male, and will fade to a
: lighter "Apricot" as he grows up. Blackie is male and will turn silver.
: Beauty (my favorite) is female and has what's known as "Phantom"
: markings. Black (though that may turn towards silver) with cream-colored
: paws, cheeks, and eyebrows--and a cream stripe up her rear, from belly
: to tail. Grandparents are all AKC Registered Toy Poodle. We haven't
: bothered to register the parents, which we got from two different
: breeders. Some time in the next week or two, the males are going to new
: homes. Probably two elderly ladies who live down the street.
:
: Yeah, the last couple of days they've started outgrowing the house with
: their shenanigans, but it's too cold outside to leave them for long.
: Been a month since the snowstorms and there's still a foot or two on the
: north sides of fences, buildings, etc.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Now, I am sure they are providing great fun and entertainment as well
: as
: keeping you busy and amused. What are the puppie's names?
:

Gary or anyone,...I'm trying to get an old win 98 133 mhz pentium 1 machine
set up with a wireless B adapter for my 4th grader.....I need to upgrade to
SE for the wireless adapter.....do you know the min system requirements for
98 SE....I'm afraid I might be wasting my time on such a dinosaur computer.
Thanks

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, you're good to go--*except* that if your system is now a fully
updated Windows 98, installing that Upgrade will actually constitute a
significant downgrade. Any number of patches may get broken, and DLL
Hell will surely result, even if only in small doses. You will find
yourself with a much healthier system if you install Win98SE "clean" to
a freshly formatted partition. You can either reformat your current
system, or you can set up a dual-boot scenario using a partition/boot
manager like BootIt NG (www.bootitng.com.) You can then take your time
setting up SE just the way you like it, installing the latest 3rd-party
apps like AcroReader, etc., while still retaining your old system for
daily use until you get the new one set up just right. Then, somewhere
down the line, you can delete the old system and recover the space.

A retail Upgrade CD can clean install by simply showing Setup your
qualifying media (in this case, the Win98 FE CD that came with your
system.) Worst case, you install First Edition with zero
option--barebones--then Upgrade.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
"Clean Boot--What it is and why you need it."
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
"Security!"
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Mouse" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all who replied.
I just wanted to make sure before doing the upgrade.
Just for clarification, I already have the retail 98SE
Upgrade disk, I need USB 2 support, and want to
install some software that lists 98SE as the minimum
OS requirement.

"Mouse" wrote in message
...


I have a Gateway PC that came with Win 98 installed.
Can I upgrade it to Win 98SE using a retail Win 98SE Upgrade CD,
or do I have to use a special OEM upgrade CD from Gateway?


Mouse