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Old June 14th 04, 04:23 PM
J
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J


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Old June 14th 04, 05:02 PM
Hugh Candlin
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot


J wrote in message ...
Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?


It sounds like you, or someone else that uses your computer,
isn't shutting down using the recommended procedure.

If you read this, it will explain how to do what you want.

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 118579
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;118579


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Old June 14th 04, 05:50 PM
Hugh Candlin
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot


Hugh Candlin wrote in message ...

It sounds like you, or someone else that uses your computer,
isn't shutting down using the recommended procedure.


I actually wrote "You isn't"?

I'm almost proud.............


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Old June 15th 04, 02:22 AM
Bill Watt
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:23:15 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J


Boot to Dos and enter: Scanreg /fix.

That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/


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Old June 15th 04, 03:41 AM
J
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

Good thought, but no cigar.

I have read many messages about this problem.

None had info about resetting the flag.

Strange but true.

Thank you for your reply.

J

"Bill Watt" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:23:15 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J


Boot to Dos and enter: Scanreg /fix.

That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/




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Old June 15th 04, 08:20 AM
Bill Watt
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot


Try Start Run and enter Msconfig. Under General select Advanced.
Check "disable Scandisk after bad shutdown"
Reboot, then go back and un-check it. Keep it un-checked.
That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:41:31 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Good thought, but no cigar.

I have read many messages about this problem.

None had info about resetting the flag.

Strange but true.

Thank you for your reply.

J

"Bill Watt" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:23:15 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J


Boot to Dos and enter: Scanreg /fix.

That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/




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Old June 15th 04, 12:23 PM
Bill Blanton
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

The two "dirty" flags are located at the start of the FAT for each volume.
Msconfig only toggles the "Autoscan" value in msdos.sys



"Bill Watt" wrote in message ...

Try Start Run and enter Msconfig. Under General select Advanced.
Check "disable Scandisk after bad shutdown"
Reboot, then go back and un-check it. Keep it un-checked.
That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
__________________________________________________ _____
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:41:31 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Good thought, but no cigar.

I have read many messages about this problem.

None had info about resetting the flag.

Strange but true.

Thank you for your reply.

J

"Bill Watt" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:23:15 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J

Boot to Dos and enter: Scanreg /fix.

That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/






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Old June 15th 04, 06:50 PM
J
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot


"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
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The two "dirty" flags are located at the start of the FAT for each volume.


So, this means there is no way to manually reset them?

I want scandisk to run if needed to fix the file structure.

The problem is scandisk wants to run a surface scan on the 2nd disk.

This is a 38 gig disk. It worked without problems for months.

And even when I allow scandisk to complete a surface scan, it does not fix
it for next boot.

I have used disk utilities to verify the soundness of the drive.

J



"Bill Watt" wrote in message

...

Try Start Run and enter Msconfig. Under General select Advanced.
Check "disable Scandisk after bad shutdown"
Reboot, then go back and un-check it. Keep it un-checked.
That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
__________________________________________________ _____
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:41:31 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Good thought, but no cigar.

I have read many messages about this problem.

None had info about resetting the flag.

Strange but true.

Thank you for your reply.

J

"Bill Watt" wrote in message
news On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 11:23:15 -0400, "J"
wrote:

Monday Morn

During bootup scandisk informs me of need to run a thorough suface

scan.

I sometimes let it do this: takes nearly 3 hours.

And after a couple of boots, it wants to do it again.

Nothing is wrong with the drives.

How do I manually reset the scandisk flag?

J

Boot to Dos and enter: Scanreg /fix.

That may remove the flag.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/








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Old June 15th 04, 08:18 PM
Bill Blanton
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

"J" wrote in message ...

"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
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The two "dirty" flags are located at the start of the FAT for each volume.


So, this means there is no way to manually reset them?


The only way I know of is with a disk editor.

I want scandisk to run if needed to fix the file structure.


Agree.


The problem is scandisk wants to run a surface scan on the 2nd disk.

This is a 38 gig disk. It worked without problems for months.


Mabey the drive isn't as healthy as it appears. There are two flags. One is
the "ClnShutBitMask" wich indicates that the volume was not properly
dismounted and will run a scnadisk standard scan. The other, which
is what is afflicting you, is the "HrdErrBitMask", which indicates that
the file system driver had a problem writing to one or more sectors.


And even when I allow scandisk to complete a surface scan, it does not fix
it for next boot.


That is overall strange..What happens if after scandisk runs, instead
of letting windows load, you immediately reboot/reset? Does it want
to run then? If so, I would guess that it isn't clearing the flags.



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Old June 16th 04, 03:00 AM
Bill Watt
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Default scandisk want to run a surface scan at almost every boot

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:50:16 -0400, "J"
wrote:


"Bill Blanton" wrote in message
...
The two "dirty" flags are located at the start of the FAT for each volume.


So, this means there is no way to manually reset them?

I want scandisk to run if needed to fix the file structure.

The problem is scandisk wants to run a surface scan on the 2nd disk.

This is a 38 gig disk. It worked without problems for months.

And even when I allow scandisk to complete a surface scan, it does not fix
it for next boot.

I have used disk utilities to verify the soundness of the drive.

J


Snip

Bill Blanton has supplied meaningful information, as usual.

Usually a full scan should clear it up but you have done that
several times. It seems a clean shutdown should also do it. What may
not be the norm here is that the problem is on the second drive.

It would be worth trying to run Scandisk and a full scan on both
drives from Windows. Although Scandisk is more powerful in Dos I
would try it. Whatever installed the flag needs to remove it.

Not the reason for doing it, but it may run faster in windows.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

 




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