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Missing System Tools folder
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ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408
@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. ms |
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Missing System Tools folder
"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408
@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. ms |
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On 02/08/2010 09:07 PM, ms wrote:
"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408 @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. ms Oh, I have the files for the Aureal, FROM Aureal. Perhaps someone will offer a download/ftp area I can put them in or they can, for not only you but others, WITHOUT all the garbage most download sites now have on them. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Missing System Tools folder
On 02/08/2010 09:07 PM, ms wrote:
"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408 @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. ms Oh, I have the files for the Aureal, FROM Aureal. Perhaps someone will offer a download/ftp area I can put them in or they can, for not only you but others, WITHOUT all the garbage most download sites now have on them. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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Missing System Tools folder
ms wrote:
Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. No surprise, it just disappears. Along with everything else. _________ But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. The OS has nothing to do with the ability to create partitions; all you need is sufficient free space for the desired partition size and a program to make the partition(s). Of course, one has to decide whether to make another primary partition or an extended one for logical drives. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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ms wrote: Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. No surprise, it just disappears. Along with everything else. _________ But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. The OS has nothing to do with the ability to create partitions; all you need is sufficient free space for the desired partition size and a program to make the partition(s). Of course, one has to decide whether to make another primary partition or an extended one for logical drives. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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ms wrote:
"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408 @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. OK. I think SFC is useful to run now/then to see what files have changed. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. All right. I hardly remember it. So, I suggest you hold MEB's feet to the fire for an explanation! I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. Did I ever recommend to you & did you ever download... http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95. However, take a quick look in the BootIt NG docs for an explanation of "CHS Alternative" &... http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=072 You should select the alternative, if you ever intend to use PowerQuest. ........Start......... CHS Alternative: If this option is enabled then the CHS values for partitions and volumes will be filled in using an alternative method. ........End.......... I only run BootIt NG from the floppy. It has never failed me in what I do with it. I've never multi-booted. I'm running on a partition that has been to HD1 & back and shrunk without data loss. Here is how to run it from floppy... (1) Download it: BootItNG.zip. (2) Unzip it; read the .pdf. (3) Click BOOTITNG.EXE to create a floppy. (4) Boot the floppy, which puts up an "Install" requester. (Not sure it will work write-protected, but try.) (5) Click to cancel the install. (6) You are now in Maintenance Mode, running off the floppy. (7) Click the Settings icon to check out the "Alternative CHS" setting. (8) Click the "Work with Partitions" icon to examine them. BEST read that manual before doing much at steps (7) & (8)! Work up a detailed plan & post it to the group. ms -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Missing System Tools folder
ms wrote:
"PCR" wrote in news:O2TckpRqKHA.3408 @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl: ms wrote: ms wrote in : I wanted to run System File Checker, read that it is in System Tools. I just looked in Accessories, there is no System Tools folder! ?? I just used Scanreg/restore, the oldest registry is only a few days old. And nothing has happened on this machine in the past week, so I believe the Tools folder has gone missing some time ago. The machine runs fine, so I want to fix this without reformat, etc. How to restore the System Tools folder? ms Thanks to all. I recreate the folder and have shortcuts to my usual scandisk, defrag, and now system file checker. I may be having the result MEB referred to. The "original" version I have scans, completes, I see no action. I really doubt that in this machine, all files are OK. I used it for trial installs, so the registry is, IMO, got some issues. One obvious symptom, an install had removed some VB6 files. I reinstalled VB6 but my favorite cleaner utility, CCleaner, only runs in a very old version, so some files in windows are missing. And of course, the default windows had a System Tools folder. If MEB can point me to the updated SFC, I will try to clean up the machine that way. If not, reformat. That's right, make your own shortcut, or run it from MSInfo32, Tools menu, or this way... "START button, Run, SFC" However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to accept all current changes. The "Settings", especially "Search Criteria", may need adjusting. You may look through the log, C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also, there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it, under the best of circumstances. For one thing, certain files will always seem to have changed. For another, it does not well handle version numbers greater than 11 characters. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=185836 System File Checker http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188186 SFC baseline http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=192832 SFC extracts wrong file http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=180465 Error Message: The File Was Not Found. Verify That You Have Selected the Correct 'Restore from' Location and Try Again http://www.rickrogers.org/sfc.htm SFC use & problems http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html SFC use & problems ms Thanks, PCR. I will digest the above data. OK. I think SFC is useful to run now/then to see what files have changed. This is the machine you helped me with before, shadowing video. It has no sound driver (MEB- that file was defective, mfgr is out of business, so I gave up), but is otherwise OK. All right. I hardly remember it. So, I suggest you hold MEB's feet to the fire for an explanation! I want to partition the 12 GB hard drive so will look into that. IIRC, 3-4 MB for W98SE OS is all it needs. So I will have about 8 GB for utilities. Even with memory problems in my old age, I can still remember surprises when you format a nice running OS. But I want that partition. In W2K/XP there is a nice freeware utility (Partition Wizard) that says it can create a partition in an operating OS, but I never heard of that in W98. Did I ever recommend to you & did you ever download... http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95. However, take a quick look in the BootIt NG docs for an explanation of "CHS Alternative" &... http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=072 You should select the alternative, if you ever intend to use PowerQuest. ........Start......... CHS Alternative: If this option is enabled then the CHS values for partitions and volumes will be filled in using an alternative method. ........End.......... I only run BootIt NG from the floppy. It has never failed me in what I do with it. I've never multi-booted. I'm running on a partition that has been to HD1 & back and shrunk without data loss. Here is how to run it from floppy... (1) Download it: BootItNG.zip. (2) Unzip it; read the .pdf. (3) Click BOOTITNG.EXE to create a floppy. (4) Boot the floppy, which puts up an "Install" requester. (Not sure it will work write-protected, but try.) (5) Click to cancel the install. (6) You are now in Maintenance Mode, running off the floppy. (7) Click the Settings icon to check out the "Alternative CHS" setting. (8) Click the "Work with Partitions" icon to examine them. BEST read that manual before doing much at steps (7) & (8)! Work up a detailed plan & post it to the group. ms -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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In message , Don Phillipson
writes: [] 3. SFC compares files with a database created at OS installation. Win98 SFC does not update its source database (as later implementations may do) thus is likely to mislead the unsophisticated user. I thought pressing the "accept" (or whatever it's called) button does update the database. Or am I misunderstanding what you're getting at? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** (If you are unlucky you may choose one of the old-fashioned ones [language schools] and be taught English as it should be, and not as it is, spoken.) George Mikes, "How to be Decadent" (1977). |
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