WinME OK

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.

"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches (stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better 'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
..
..
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new reference
point.

Thanks for the reply, Doc.
Must be getting a lot of mail, because my *mailman* refused delivery because
of a full mailbox at your end.
Maybe a resend will be possible some time later.

Harry.


"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches (stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new reference
point.

Very nicely done, Doc and a shining example for others to follow, if so
desired. My own setup is somewhat simpler with 4 partitions only, but
serving me well. I also have 80GB's, devided into 20, 15, 15 and 30 GB's
with drives C,D,E and F respectively.
Thank you for the response and happy surfing.

Harry.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doc" ]
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: WinME OK


"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches (stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new reference
point.

"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches (stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new reference
point.

Doc" allegedly at ]

NO....I am not saying a word!! But I am ROFL!!

hf
"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the reply, Doc.
Must be getting a lot of mail, because my *mailman* refused delivery
because
of a full mailbox at your end.
Maybe a resend will be possible some time later.

Harry.


"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than
ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a
totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches
(stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few
updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive
and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set
all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and
backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even
without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I
install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a
month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new
software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new
reference
point.

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Doc" allegedly at ]

NO....I am not saying a word!! But I am ROFL!!

Now try and *picture* that FCOL. H.


hf
"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Thanks for the reply, Doc.
Must be getting a lot of mail, because my *mailman* refused delivery
because
of a full mailbox at your end.
Maybe a resend will be possible some time later.

Harry.


"Doc" ] wrote in message
...
"webster72n" wrote in
:

Now that the Support is terminated, WinME seems to work better than
ever
before, no need to *upgrade* anymore.
What say ye?

Harry.




I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a
totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches
(stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few
updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive
and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set
all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and
backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even
without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I
install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a
month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new
software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new
reference
point.

Hello, Doc,

I find it hard to believe that you have WinME installed in a 2 GB partition,
AND are using it for the swap file, also.
If so, you are risking a system crash when the demand for swap file space
approaches the partition limit.
A temporary solution is to move the swap file to another, larger partition,
containing adequate free space.
Another solution is to enlarge the first, C:\, partition to ca. 4 GB.

A better solution is to create a 2.1 GB partition, with 4 KB pages, at the
head of the second, or later drive, and allocate it entirely to the
swapfile. This will speed swap file access.

Since your current second drive appears to be ca. 10 Gb in size, I suspect
it is ancient, and therefore slow. Using it for the swap file might not be
very advantageous. A new, fast drive is recommended. All of this is
contigent on the rest of the disk subsystem being fast, too. Only you can
decide if a new disk controller card is worth the expense.

Of course, the best solution is to install enough memory that the swap file
is never, or seldom, used! This solution may even be less expensive today.
The MS System Monitor tool, sysmon.exe, will tell you when you have
installed enough memory. Then your original 2 GB OS partition may be just
fine.

HTH,
--
Jack E. Martinelli Former MS MVP 2002-06 for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
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"Doc" ] wrote in message
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"webster72n" wrote in
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SNIP

I gotta agree with ya Harry. But in my case it resulted from a totally
fresh custom install, and applying all the updates and patches (stored on
CD) without having to go online to do it. To this I added a few updated
dll's and ocx's, vbruns etc, and set about partitioning my hard drive and
re-installing all my previous applications, but with a much better
'layout'
than before.

I partitioned my #1 hard disc as such ...

C- 2Gb - OS and DOS files only
D- 8Gb - Applications
E- 8Gb - Data drive
F- 8Gb - Resource
G- 8Gb - Scratch
H- 8Gb - Downloads etc
I- 32Gb - Music

and the #2 hard disc as ...

J- 7Gb - Backups
K- 2Gb - Temp

Then I changed a lot of Windows 'default' folders -
TMP & Temp - K:\Temp
Temp Internet files - K:\Tif's
IE Cookies, Favourites, History - K:\WinData
Swapfile - K:\
Email store - E:\Emails
My Documents E:\Docs
My Pictures - E:\Pics
My Music I:\Music
.
.
etc etc


Then I re-installed all my previous software to partition D, and set all
applications to save data to E:\...

Once I had it how I liked .... still never having been exposed to the
internet .... I imaged each partition.

The end result is a system that is so much easier to maintain and backup.
And a (vulnerable) C: drive of only 600Mb, images onto one CD even without
compression.

Now I surf without worry, and try out new software without risk. I install
and run any new software from the "Scratch" partition. Approx once a month
I format C, re-install the good image, install (if any) any new software
that I have trialled into D, and make new good images as a new reference
point.

"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in
:

Hello, Doc,

I find it hard to believe that you have WinME installed in a 2 GB
partition, AND are using it for the swap file, also.

HTH,

Thanks for the concern Jack, but if you re-read my original post you will
see that my swapfile is indeed on the 2nd hard drive. My C: partition holds
only the OS and is around 600Mb.

Swapfile - K:\

I have 256Mb of Ram, and have a swap file max size set at 512Mb. Does that
seem OK ?

The 2nd hard disk is only about 3 years old, and bench test software shows
it is almost as fast as the newer 80Gb drive. The machine is old (new in
Jan 99) and slowish (300Mhz - lol) but runs faultlessly. It only had the
seal on the case opened for the 1st time early last year when I ran out of
patience with the original 3.2Gb hard drive. At the same time I pulled the
original 32Mb RAM chip, and maxxed the sockets out with 256Mb - what a
difference that made. Also fitted the 2nd hand 10Gb drive and a new DVD +-
R/RW drive and a 17" CRT. Thats all I am gonna do to it, when it dies I
will replace it with a new machine.

Ah, ... I see it now, Doc.

"Swapfile - K:\ "

I did overlook it.

"...and have a swap file max size set at 512Mb. Does that seem OK ?"

However, setting a maximum swapfile size, rather than letting Windows manage
it, or setting it to the maximum of 2 GB, is asking for trouble.
If multitasking apps require more than your 512 MB, the system will crash.
I strongly recommend just letting Windows manage the swap file which you
have allocated to K:\. You have plenty of disk space to do so. I again
suggest learning about the MS System Monitor tool, and its part, "Swapfile
in Use", which will tell you how large the actual used swapfile is at any
time. Less than 10 MB is preferable for maximum performance, but you are
limited in the amount of memory you can install, and will have to live with
the current results.
You can easily reach SysMon through Help & Support.

In this day and age, I am surprised you could still easily find a 10 GB HD.
You may wish to compare the benchmarking tool, HD Tach, with yours.
You may wish to benchmark your machine at PCPitstop.com

I also recommend opening the case twice a year and blowing out the dust
bunnies with a can of compressed gas.

There is nothing you could have done to improve the PC performance better
than increasing the memory. The increase from 32 to 256 MB is tantamount to
a "brain transplant". If your BIOS or chipset will not support more memory,
go peruse some inexpensive "Vista Premium capable" models soon for a future
real jump in performance. Practice some "deep breathing" exercises,
beforehand.
--
Jack E. Martinelli Former MS MVP 2002-06 for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
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"Doc" ] wrote in message
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"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in
:

Hello, Doc,

I find it hard to believe that you have WinME installed in a 2 GB
partition, AND are using it for the swap file, also.

HTH,

Thanks for the concern Jack, but if you re-read my original post you will
see that my swapfile is indeed on the 2nd hard drive. My C: partition
holds
only the OS and is around 600Mb.

Swapfile - K:\

I have 256Mb of Ram, and have a swap file max size set at 512Mb. Does that
seem OK ?

The 2nd hard disk is only about 3 years old, and bench test software shows
it is almost as fast as the newer 80Gb drive. The machine is old (new in
Jan 99) and slowish (300Mhz - lol) but runs faultlessly. It only had the
seal on the case opened for the 1st time early last year when I ran out of
patience with the original 3.2Gb hard drive. At the same time I pulled the
original 32Mb RAM chip, and maxed out the sockets with 256Mb - what a
difference that made. Also fitted the 2nd hand 10Gb drive and a new DVD +-
R/RW drive and a 17" CRT. Thats all I am gonna do to it, when it dies I
will replace it with a new machine.