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Anyone get it working on their Win2000ProSP4 system?
Buffala
PS: It is the 2012 version.

it's not Supported for win98 sp1 or Win2000 Pro sp4 System!

Thanks.
I just found the system requirements for the new version.
Too bad, now I will have to look for another free AV program.
I wonder how long they will keep the previous version's definition updates
going?
"4. Updated System Requirements
Windows XP SP3 (32 bit),
Windows XP SP2 (64 bit)
Windows Vista SP1 (32 bit and 64 bit)
Windows 7 (32 bit and 64 bit)
Support for Windows 2000 has been cancelled.
RAM:
Min. 512 MB RAM (Windows XP)
Min. 1024 MB RAM (Windows Vista, Windows 7)
HDD:
Min. 150 MB (additional temporary and quarantine space needed)"

Mr. Buffalo
the best answer @
microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Anyone get it (Avira) working on their Win2000ProSP4 system?
Buffalo

it's not Supported for win98 sp1 or Win2000 Pro sp4 System!
Too bad, now I will have to look for another free AV program.

Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need to be
running AV software, and haven't needed to for about the past 3 to 5
years. This is because most malware doesn't run or install itself
properly on the 9X/ME line of operating systems (for the past few
years, malware expects to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista,
etc).

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that you need to run
an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works well and can still be updated
with a current scan engine and virus definitions.

Norton Antivirus 2002 is part of Norton SystemWorks 2002, which can be
downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50 mb
in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3 into
that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should be no
conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and 13
folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove some
or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to install
itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's clock/calendar is
set to the correct date.

If your system has ever had NAV installed on it before, you might have
to do a complete search for all old remnants and remove them. From your
registry too.

See here for NAV removal tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and look
for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*". If you
find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory) then it
must be deleted before you install this software. It's best to check
your system for this file even if you don't think that NAV is or has
ever been installed on your system. The presence of that file will
affect your ability to perform virus-definition updates once you install
NAV 2002.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option of
registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) Your win-98 system will probably need to have it's "Root
Certificates" updated, and update your Windows Scripting Host to 5.6

I *believe* that this file will update the root certificates of a win-98
system:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...n/rootsupd.exe

Windows Scripting host (Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe) can be
downloaded from he

http://www.macropool.com/en/download...44-x86-enu.exe

5) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent Updater):

ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

When trying to run that update, if you get the following error message:

"This package is not signed with a valid Symantec signature.
This Intelligent Updater package cannot continue installing."

Then you need to update your root certificates.

5) BTW, NAV 2002 runs fine on Win-2K and XP (sp1, 2 and 3).

Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD includes:

- Norton CleanSweep 2002
- Norton AntiVirus 2002
- Norton Utilities 2002
- Roxio GoBack 3.0
- FastSafe (Fast & Safe Cleanup)
- Symantec Process Viewer
- Norton Rescue Disk version 15.0
- Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.50.4134.600

Enjoy

98 Guy

MEB



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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:23:01 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:

Anyone get it (Avira) working on their Win2000ProSP4 system?
Buffalo

it's not Supported for win98 sp1 or Win2000 Pro sp4 System!
Too bad, now I will have to look for another free AV program.

Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need to be
running AV software, and haven't needed to for about the past 3 to 5
years. This is because most malware doesn't run or install itself
properly on the 9X/ME line of operating systems (for the past few
years, malware expects to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista,
etc).

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that you need to run
an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works well and can still be updated
with a current scan engine and virus definitions.
(snip Norton process)

Depending on the flavour and extent of one's paranoia, the Avira
Rescue Disk approach provides an OS-independent non-interactive scan.

who where wrote in
:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 09:23:01 -0400, 98 Guy
wrote:

snip

Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need
to be running AV software, and haven't needed to for about
the past 3 to 5 years. This is because most malware
doesn't run or install itself properly on the 9X/ME line of
operating systems (for the past few years, malware expects
to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista, etc).

Not true. I ONLY run 98SELite (3 main sys files are from 95B) on
the internet and I have been infected twice, in spite of extreme
precautions and the fact that, while getting older and dumber, I
am relatively intelligent and have 20+ experience with all this
****.

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that
you need to run an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works
well and can still be updated with a current scan engine
and virus definitions.
(snip Norton process)

Norton is garbage.

Depending on the flavour and extent of one's paranoia, the
Avira Rescue Disk approach provides an OS-independent
non-interactive scan.

Yes, once it's too late.

Whoever the OP was, spring for ESET NOD32 and find somewhere
where you can DL the 98 version (2.7). Same lic. # works for
/all/ versions (so far, check whether this is still the case if
you are at all interested). If you can't find it, I'll upload it
2.7 for you somewhere. Several updates daily and THE best AV,
period. $40/year, $60/2 years is more than worth it.

(I COULD tell you where to get free updates so you don't even
HAVE to register it, but since I registered, I think you and
everyone else should too. It has saved my butt quite a few times
- the 2 times it didn't it was because I did something
retarded.)

P.S. 98GooF, don't bother replying, you're in my KF.

98 Guy wrote:
Anyone get it (Avira) working on their Win2000ProSP4 system?
Buffalo

it's not Supported for win98 sp1 or Win2000 Pro sp4 System!
Too bad, now I will have to look for another free AV program.

Generally speaking, Windows 9x/ME systems don't really need to be
running AV software, and haven't needed to for about the past 3 to 5
years. This is because most malware doesn't run or install itself
properly on the 9X/ME line of operating systems (for the past few
years, malware expects to find itself on NT-based OS's like XP, Vista,
etc).

If you are running win-98/me and you're so paranoid that you need to
run an AV program, Norton Antivirus 2002 works well and can still be
updated with a current scan engine and virus definitions.

Norton Antivirus 2002 is part of Norton SystemWorks 2002, which can be
downloaded from these links:

http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-A.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-B.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-C.ZIP
http://www.fileden. com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/NSW02-D.ZIP

The password to unzip each of them is "a". Each file is close to 50
mb in size.

When unzipped, you'll get

NSW02-1.piz
NSW02-2.piz
NSW02-3.piz
NSW02-4.piz

Rename them each to .zip. They are not password protected.

Create a directory (name doesn't matter) and move files 1, 2 and 3
into that directory and unzip them into that directory. There should
be no conflicts or warnings to over-write any existing files.

For file 4, move it to the \SUPPORT\IE5 directory and unzip it's
contents into that directory.

When you're done all that, you should have an exact copy of the
directory structure of the NSW 2002 CD. There should be 10 files and
13 folders in the root directory. 590 files, 41 folders, 207 mb.

To install NSW-2002, just run setup.exe in the root.

Notes:

1) Before installing, you should go to add/remove programs in control
panel and check to see if you have any Symantec or Norton products
already there, including LiveUpdate, LiveReg, Norton AntiVirus, Norton
Utilities, or Norton SystemWorks. You will probably have to remove
some or most of them, and then re-boot your computer, for NSW2002 to
install itself correctly. You should also make sure your PC's
clock/calendar is set to the correct date.

If your system has ever had NAV installed on it before, you might have
to do a complete search for all old remnants and remove them. From
your registry too.

See here for NAV removal tool:

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05033108162039

2) Once you complete step 1, perform a file-find on your system and
look for a file called "catalog.livesubscribe" or just "catalog.*".
If you find that file (it will be in a norton or symantec directory)
then it must be deleted before you install this software. It's best
to check your system for this file even if you don't think that NAV
is or has ever been installed on your system. The presence of that
file will affect your ability to perform virus-definition updates
once you install NAV 2002.

3) After installing NSW2002, let it restart your system. There are
several settings in NAV that I turn off - like automatically check for
updates, and warn if virus def's are old. If it gives you the option
of registering the software - don't. It's not necessary for it to
function.

4) Your win-98 system will probably need to have it's "Root
Certificates" updated, and update your Windows Scripting Host to 5.6

I *believe* that this file will update the root certificates of a
win-98 system:


http://download.windowsupdate.com/ms...n/rootsupd.exe

Windows Scripting host (Windows9x-Script56-KB917344-x86-enu.exe) can
be downloaded from he


http://www.macropool.com/en/download...44-x86-enu.exe

5) If you click on "Check for Updates" you will probably be told that
there is an update to Symantec Redirector, which can be downloaded but
may not install. In any case, it's my experience that both auto and
manual updating (liveupdate button) doesn't work, and hasn't worked
since maybe 2007. But that's ok, because you can download all program
updates and virus definitions from here (Symantec Intelligent
Updater):


ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/englis...ymcdefsi32.exe

That file always contains the most recent virus definition update. So
download and run it as often as you want (even once a day if you're
paranoid).

When trying to run that update, if you get the following error
message:

"This package is not signed with a valid Symantec signature.
This Intelligent Updater package cannot continue installing."

Then you need to update your root certificates.

5) BTW, NAV 2002 runs fine on Win-2K and XP (sp1, 2 and 3).

Norton SystemWorks 2002 CD includes:

- Norton CleanSweep 2002
- Norton AntiVirus 2002
- Norton Utilities 2002
- Roxio GoBack 3.0
- FastSafe (Fast & Safe Cleanup)
- Symantec Process Viewer
- Norton Rescue Disk version 15.0
- Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.50.4134.600

Enjoy
I actually have a NSW2002 cd that I purchased.
Buffalo

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:43:43 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

who where wrote in
:

Depending on the flavour and extent of one's paranoia, the
Avira Rescue Disk approach provides an OS-independent
non-interactive scan.

Yes, once it's too late.

Only if you let that be the case. I routinely run a scan every couple
of weeks.

Over the years of using 98SE, I have used this manner of scanning.
Originally with F-Prot for DOS which was the bees' knees. In that
time, a number of infected files have been detected but none had been
activated. You may call that luck. But as always, YMMV.

Whoever the OP was, spring for ESET NOD32 and find somewhere
where you can DL the 98 version (2.7). Same lic. # works for
/all/ versions (so far, check whether this is still the case if
you are at all interested). If you can't find it, I'll upload it
2.7 for you somewhere. Several updates daily and THE best AV,
period. $40/year, $60/2 years is more than worth it.

(I COULD tell you where to get free updates so you don't even
HAVE to register it, but since I registered, I think you and
everyone else should too. It has saved my butt quite a few times
- the 2 times it didn't it was because I did something
retarded.)

The O/P did ask for free. I'm sure if (s)he is in the market for a
paid tool (s)he will consider your recommendation.

who where wrote in
:

snip

The O/P did ask for free. I'm sure if (s)he is in the
market for a paid tool (s)he will consider your
recommendation.

People should accept the fact that it is a miracle ANY
currently-released apps run on a DOS-based shell. (Yes, some do,
but not many.)

There IS no free 9x AV available. McAfee and Norton and some
others do NOT count, they are crap. They were good 15 years ago.

Anyone can afford ESET.

Of course, an even better solution would be to get off the
stupid internet altogether and read some books.

hemorrhoid wrote:

People should accept the fact that it is a miracle ANY
currently-released apps run on a DOS-based shell.

You are such an idiot.

Win-98 has a kernel running in 32-bit protected mode. It runs full
win32 code.

Stop confusing win-9x with Windows 3.0 and earlier (which was a 16-bit
shell that ran on top of DOS).

Win-98 is only boot-loaded from DOS. As win-9x is boot-loaded, it
removes DOS from memory (including the environment it created, including
any 16-bit device drivers) and puts it all back in a different form so
it can run under a VMM (and even multiple instances) for any legacy
16-bit apps that need to use it.

There IS no free 9x AV available. McAfee and Norton and some
others do NOT count, they are crap.

Get your dates straight, fool.

Norton Antivirus turned to crap with the 2003 version. Earlier versions
were very fast and were NOT bloat-ware.

McAfee was probably always crap.

I posted links to the 2002 version of NAV, which was the last good,
efficient, fast, light-weight version.

Of course, an even better solution would be to get off the
stupid internet altogether and read some books.

Why don't you follow your own advice, old man.

thanatoid


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