Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition

Full-Quoter and Top-poster MEB wrote:

We did this before, read your BS from the last time:

No MEB. I want to read your response this time.

| So those that are selling Windows on E-bay are violating copyright
| law - are they not?
|
| Aren't they "distributing" it - by way of sale?

Where is your response MEB?

Oh, that's right. I forgot.

You don't respond to straight forward questions by giving
straight-forward answers.

You operate in a cloud of fear that everything you type will and can be
held against you in a court of law.

~BD~ wrote:

Well, then, in that case - wouldn't "sailing into danger" be
better?

Consider this, wise Guy:-

(a brief explanation of maritime history and the origin of the "IMO")

Um, ok. That's nice.

Don't see what it has to do with what was being discussed.

Still waiting for a response to these points:

(A) Microsoft sells (or has sold) licenses to use Windows-98. As long
as every running installation of Windows-98 has a unique license (or in
most cases a product key) that is not shared or duplicated to any other
running installation, that nothing illegal or immoral is transpiring.

(B) Copying the Windows-98 CD or transmitting it to or receiving it
electronically from others should not be considered illegal or immoral.
Only the _use_ of Windows-98 (regardless of how it was obtained) should
be considered illegal or immoral if it runs counter to point (a) above.

Regardless if those points run counter to copyright law or what-ever
verbiage that microsoft has stamped on their CD's, the above 2 points
are equitable, logical and practical with respect to Microsoft and the
public in general.

Thank you Sunny and if that is indeed a fact that "The largest thefts are
from corporate/business systems." then it makes me think that Microsoft chose
poorly by choosing to continue to develop Windows NT business source code and
just leave the consumers behind with abandoning the 9x consumer source code.
As I have said before the rest of this year will prove especially interesting
to see if Mozilla gives up support of Firefox 2 by the end of the year and
then users are stuck with Opera shudder or possibly some other 9x supported
browser for using the 'Web with the proper protections. I know I will have
my router up and going by then and wrap up my research into Windows 98 Second
Edition and using other browsers such as Mozilla Firefox and Opera with it.
I will indeed continue to use Windows 98 Second Edition in protest of the
establishment and for the ability to run old games that will not run on XP
and I feel the old-school games were lots of fun and really creative in their
making unlike so many newer games that focus mainly on special effects,
sounds and graphics to the detriment of the story. This is just my 2/3 cents
for what little it is worth.

"Sunny" wrote:


"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
We did this before, read your BS from the last time:

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/re.../copyright.htm

There is no argument you can raise that would allow the activity in
which
you engage and solicit others to do.

"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
snip

The ironic part about the whole thing is that Western piracy is peanuts,
compared to Asian practises.

On frequent trips, to Singapore/Malaysia/Indonesia I have noticed
thousands of OEM Win98-ME and XP CDs being openly sold off the shelf, in
shops. (Some shop keepers didn't know "retail" copies even existed)
Also, at a Microsoft promotion in Singapore, even the stall holders were
openly admitting pirating Microsoft stuff.
The largest thefts are from corporate/business systems.

Here you go again, same garbage, now with your infamous Top-poster dig you
use when your infantile activities fail...

These questions WERE answered before IN DETAIL. If your memory is so bad, I
have them preserved on the web page to which I directed you.

I will advise though, that the page and site may become non-existent as
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Want something legal to discuss which hasn't been already been discussed to
[relative] finality in this group and elsewhere, here it is.
It directly relates to copyrighted materials and personal property.
Moreover, does give the opportunity for discussions into the various legal
aspects involved, and you, personally, to show your expertise in the legal
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DATE:
2008/09/04
Time:
03:06 A.M. GMT-5 EDT


It appears you have blocked access to my personal property and
copyrighted materials.

I have tried both the FTP and HTTP access.

I have also noted you have openly and publicly defaced my personal and
copyrighted property.

The materials on the site, for the most part, are also Official documents
from and in American courts and government Offices and Agencies, and fall
under the protections of the U.S. and International Laws and governments.

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accordingly. The matters fall under both U.S. and International Laws, and
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Maurice Edward, Brahier

--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel
--
_________



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
| Full-Quoter and Top-poster MEB wrote:
|
| We did this before, read your BS from the last time:
|
| No MEB. I want to read your response this time.
|
| | So those that are selling Windows on E-bay are violating copyright
| | law - are they not?
| |
| | Aren't they "distributing" it - by way of sale?
|
| Where is your response MEB?
|
| Oh, that's right. I forgot.
|
| You don't respond to straight forward questions by giving
| straight-forward answers.
|
| You operate in a cloud of fear that everything you type will and can be
| held against you in a court of law.

"Angel" wrote in message ...
Note Below
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
: "scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong generation
for
: that! You old fogie, you!!!!
:
All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto others AS
you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a better world
if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and integrity has
NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out of style.
Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had your mind
set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you do not
know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go to University
classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should be
going to those classes.

Angel


Hi Angel

I think Bill was having a little joke with you!

Maybe he, too, has been to the University of Life!

In which case, I suspect that his standards are much like yours ....... and mine! smile

Dave

--

Bill in Co.

Correction: Note below YOUR comment.

Angel

"Angel" wrote in message
...
: Note Below
: "Bill in Co." wrote in message
: ...
: : Angel wrote:
: : Buffalo,
: :
: : Maybe (98 Guy) knows more about computers, I am learning more about
them
: : every day. He seems to know NOTHING about Scruples, Morals and
: Integrity,
: : or
: : he just doesn't care about what the difference is between right and
: wrong.
: : This subject has nothing to do with computer knowledge. This concerns
: the
: : difference between right and wrong, scruples, morality and integrity,
: : nothing else.
: : Angel
: :
: : "scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong generation
: for
: : that! You old fogie, you!!!!
: :
: All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto others AS
: you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a better
world
: if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and integrity has
: NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out of
style.
: Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had your
mind
: set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you do not
: know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go to
University
: classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should be
: going to those classes.
:
: Angel
:
: : "Buffalo" wrote in message
: : . ..
: :
: :
: : Bill in Co. wrote:
: : Buffalo wrote:
: : Angel wrote:
: : Thanks Dan,
: :
: : You have just asked "98 Guy" the same question I was going to ask.
: : He checked ONLY 1/3rd of the downloaded Pirated Win98SE? Maybe he
: : is in for a great surprise!! Of course, he is a "know it all" and
: : no matter what. In his own opinion, he is never wrong no matter
: : what! He is just a Troll! looking for someone to pick on.
: :
: : Angel
: :
: : And who might you just be??
: :
: : She is Angel.
: :
: : Well, Duh? I think he (98 Guy) knows a hell of a lot more about
: : Win98
: : and computers than Angel.
: :
: :
:
:

~BD~ wrote:
"Angel" wrote in message
...
Note Below
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
"scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong generation
for that! You old fogie, you!!!!

All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto others AS
you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a better
world
if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and integrity has
NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out of
style.
Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had your
mind
set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you do
not
know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go to
University
classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should be
going to those classes.

Angel


Hi Angel

I think Bill was having a little joke with you!

Maybe he, too, has been to the University of Life!

In which case, I suspect that his standards are much like yours .......
and
mine! smile
Dave


Right. Apparently my attempt at sarcasm was too subtle. :-)

Apparently my attempt at sarcasm was too subtle. :-)

Angel wrote:
Bill in Co.

Correction: Note below YOUR comment.

Angel

"Angel" wrote in message
...
Note Below
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Angel wrote:
Buffalo,

Maybe (98 Guy) knows more about computers, I am learning more about
them
every day. He seems to know NOTHING about Scruples, Morals and
Integrity,
or he just doesn't care about what the difference is between right and
wrong.
This subject has nothing to do with computer knowledge. This concerns
the
difference between right and wrong, scruples, morality and integrity,
nothing else.
Angel

"scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong generation
for
that! You old fogie, you!!!!

All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto others AS
you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a better
world
if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and integrity has
NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out of
style.
Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had your
mind
set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you do
not
know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go to
University
classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should be
going to those classes.

Angel

"Buffalo" wrote in message
. ..


Bill in Co. wrote:
Buffalo wrote:
Angel wrote:
Thanks Dan,

You have just asked "98 Guy" the same question I was going to ask.
He checked ONLY 1/3rd of the downloaded Pirated Win98SE? Maybe he
is in for a great surprise!! Of course, he is a "know it all" and
no matter what. In his own opinion, he is never wrong no matter
what! He is just a Troll! looking for someone to pick on.

Angel

And who might you just be??

She is Angel.

Well, Duh? I think he (98 Guy) knows a hell of a lot more about
Win98 and computers than Angel.

Hi Dave,

This University is a "____State University" where I and other students go
for an education. In fact, right now, I am with other students that are
studying to become teachers, It is a 40000 & 50000 class. It is not the
"University of Life". This is in addition to "The University of Life".
Just setting the record straight.

Angel

"~BD~" wrote in message
...
:
: "Angel" wrote in message
...
: Note Below
: "Bill in Co." wrote in message
: ...
: : "scruples, morality and integrity"??? Wrong era and wrong
generation
: for
: : that! You old fogie, you!!!!
: :
: All I have to say about your comment is: Do, Write and Say unto others
AS
: you would want them to Do, Write and Say to you. It would be a better
world
: if everyone believed and did this. Scruples, morality and integrity has
: NEVER been connected with era or generation. It has never gone out of
style.
: Of course, there is nothing that would change your mind if you had your
mind
: set on "wrong era and wrong generation" no matter what. Anyway, you do
not
: know what generation I am from, this may give you a hint: I go to
University
: classes. Right now, I am taking Philosophy classes. Maybe you should be
: going to those classes.
:
: Angel
:
:
: Hi Angel
:
: I think Bill was having a little joke with you!
:
: Maybe he, too, has been to the University of Life!
:
: In which case, I suspect that his standards are much like yours .......
and mine! smile
:
: Dave
:
: --
:
: