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"Ron Badour" wrote in message
... See if this article on changing the shell from explorer to program manager helps. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293174 [] I wish I'd read that before last night! It _sounds_ like the fault I had, anyway. I'm currently building up an old '98 system, and thought I'd try the universal USB driver (that has been on here a lot - I think mine is something like version 23e) rather than the pen drive's own. It caused the system to freeze as described in the above article ("Explorer caused fault" message, then blank desktop if you OK the error message). I just reinstalled the OS, as I wasn't far along, but the above might have been quicker. For interest, it is a system being installed via 98lite (4.5), using one of the options that avoids IE3 altogether. This is another reason why I think the above may be the right answer (in that the KB article talks about restoring IE, or at least one of its files); obviously 98lite makes the system work fine without it, but possibly the universal USB driver installation in combination with 98lite breaks the system. (I won't be bothering to repeat the experiment, since I do have the drivers specific to my pen drive, which do work with a "lite"d system.) |
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"Joe T" wrote in message
... Sorry, but I forgot to mention I have dial up connection at home with external 56K modem. It won't dial my WalMart ISP in safe mode, hence why I cannot e-mail. I'm using my work computer to send to you people. I'm not sure after reading the link you list is what I'm after. How does changing shell from explorer to program manager work or the reason for it? I also found this article KB 293185 "How to turn on CD-Rom Support in Dos Mode". I'm thinking that I can just reload my motherboard drivers with this. Am I correct or just wishing? [] (I haven't read that KB article, but the simplest way to turn on CD support in DOS is probably just to boot from ['98 or later] a boot floppy - assuming you've got one that is.) Well, you could get at them; however, they're probably designed to be loaded from Windows. You _might_ be lucky and they'll run from DOS, but I suspect it's unlikely. (And if you do run them from Windows and they require a restart, you've then got the problem of losing CD again during the restart - unless you copy them to C: anyway.) As someone else said, just putting a new HD in and installing XP to that, then connecting the old HD back in (changing the link to slave if it's on the same cable), will let you access your files no problem; or you could as you said use floppies. You said you had the odd file over a floppy's worth - no problem, there are lots of ways - there are certainly zipper utilities that will run from DOS (in fact the zip format, and the software that makes it, predates Windows), and with those you could zip the files across two or more floppies. |
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"Ron Badour" wrote in message
... If this problem is less than five days old, restore a copy of the registry that predates the onset of the problem and see if that helps. The five-day limit assumes that the computer is booted every day. If it is not booted every day, you may have an old enough registry backup that you can use even though more than five days have elapsed. Note that any registry changes made after the date of the restored registry will be lost. [] Yup - that rolling backup system bites again! The '95 ERU/ERD utility runs fine under '98 (and, I'm told, Me), and lets _you_ decide when to make a backup of a working system (and to keep that backup indefinitely if you want - it doesn't get overwritten or deleted unless _you_ say so). Find it under something like \other\misc on a '95 CD ... |
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When your PC cannot boot normally, changing the shell may allow it to boot
so you can get to the files you need. It only takes a couple of minutes to try the procedure so you have little to lose. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... Sorry, but I forgot to mention I have dial up connection at home with external 56K modem. It won't dial my WalMart ISP in safe mode, hence why I cannot e-mail. I'm using my work computer to send to you people. I'm not sure after reading the link you list is what I'm after. How does changing shell from explorer to program manager work or the reason for it? I also found this article KB 293185 "How to turn on CD-Rom Support in Dos Mode". I'm thinking that I can just reload my motherboard drivers with this. Am I correct or just wishing? "Ron Badour" wrote: See if this article on changing the shell from explorer to program manager helps. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293174 -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "jt3219" wrote in message ... I appreciate your idea of a new HDD, however that will not work for me at this time. You see, since I can only boot to Safe Mode because of the error "Windows protection error. While initializing CONFIGMG device. Restart computer". My computer does not recognize any other storage device in Safe Mode like my USB drive to which I wish to move my files to then wipe the drive and install XP. I cannot even e-mail any files to my office work computer. Yes, I can use my floppy drive for some files, but I have some files larger than 1.44 disks. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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Ok, thanks all. I have not bought XP yet so its premature to buy a new HDD.
I will try to load my motherboard drivers that way. tnx "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Assuming the drivers files you want to reinstall are on a CD, and that they are copiable from the CD, you can use a Windows Setup floppy boot disk to copy the files from the CD to the HD, then restart in Safe Mode and run them from there. Helps if you load XCOPY onto the startup floppy before booting it. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "jt3219" wrote in message ... I appreciate your idea of a new HDD, however that will not work for me at this time. You see, since I can only boot to Safe Mode because of the error "Windows protection error. While initializing CONFIGMG device. Restart computer". My computer does not recognize any other storage device in Safe Mode like my USB drive to which I wish to move my files to then wipe the drive and install XP. I cannot even e-mail any files to my office work computer. Yes, I can use my floppy drive for some files, but I have some files larger than 1.44 disks. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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I sure wish someone could tell me for sure if overlaying will wipe the disk.
Any MS articles? I've searched for hours. They all say format disk. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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As long as you do not format the partition, do not delete the partition with
fdisk or ignore words (should you see them) to the effect that you are about to lose all files, the disk will not be wiped. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... I sure wish someone could tell me for sure if overlaying will wipe the disk. Any MS articles? I've searched for hours. They all say format disk. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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Dash it all man, brilliant idea.Thanks Gary and Ron. I looked around the
house and found an old 3.2gb drive that was in the basement with 98se on it. I'll do what Gary T suggested. I'll install that one, format and install 98se on the small drive, xfer files and pics in safe mode, make sure this works, then format my WD120gb, reinstall 98se and xfer back with my Western Digital lifeguard utility. And my ex-wife said I'm a pack rat and will never need that junk. HAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Typical woman. "Ron Badour" wrote: As long as you do not format the partition, do not delete the partition with fdisk or ignore words (should you see them) to the effect that you are about to lose all files, the disk will not be wiped. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... I sure wish someone could tell me for sure if overlaying will wipe the disk. Any MS articles? I've searched for hours. They all say format disk. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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You'd just love to see my "junk room", g. Strangest event is when I
*can't* find a part I need. But I usually have something that I can make do until I can get something in from NewEgg. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Dash it all man, brilliant idea.Thanks Gary and Ron. I looked around the house and found an old 3.2gb drive that was in the basement with 98se on it. I'll do what Gary T suggested. I'll install that one, format and install 98se on the small drive, xfer files and pics in safe mode, make sure this works, then format my WD120gb, reinstall 98se and xfer back with my Western Digital lifeguard utility. And my ex-wife said I'm a pack rat and will never need that junk. HAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Typical woman. "Ron Badour" wrote: As long as you do not format the partition, do not delete the partition with fdisk or ignore words (should you see them) to the effect that you are about to lose all files, the disk will not be wiped. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... I sure wish someone could tell me for sure if overlaying will wipe the disk. Any MS articles? I've searched for hours. They all say format disk. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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It might take me 20 years, but I usually find a use for my valuable stuff
(junk). G I have had 4 pairs of matched cabinet hinges since around 1985 and just recently, my step son needed some for a cabinet he was building. Saved him around $30. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... Dash it all man, brilliant idea.Thanks Gary and Ron. I looked around the house and found an old 3.2gb drive that was in the basement with 98se on it. I'll do what Gary T suggested. I'll install that one, format and install 98se on the small drive, xfer files and pics in safe mode, make sure this works, then format my WD120gb, reinstall 98se and xfer back with my Western Digital lifeguard utility. And my ex-wife said I'm a pack rat and will never need that junk. HAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Typical woman. "Ron Badour" wrote: As long as you do not format the partition, do not delete the partition with fdisk or ignore words (should you see them) to the effect that you are about to lose all files, the disk will not be wiped. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "Joe T" wrote in message ... I sure wish someone could tell me for sure if overlaying will wipe the disk. Any MS articles? I've searched for hours. They all say format disk. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: Why not get a new HDD and install XP to that. Leave the 9x disk disconnected until XP is installed. That way, your files are kept intact, in case you later remember something you forgot to recover when you had the chance. Not sure if an OEM disk will overinstall Win98. If not, there are some tricks. Otherwise, all you do is boot to the Emergency Boot Disk (Windows Startup floppy), use CD support, then start Setup from the CD. The fact that it is an overinstall is assumed from the presence of the existing system.. -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message news Standard Win98se CD disk with all documents, not a recover disk. I built this computer. I have motherboard disks, Word 2000 disks etc. Elite Group K7s5a motherboard disks/drivers. Unfortunately, I have turned off the computer more than 5 times. I did try scanreg / restore but to no avail. Just need to overlay now. I'm going to go to XP but I just need to pull some files first then wipe disk and install XP. I'm not concerned with any performance issues. "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: What brand computer? What kind of installation media do you have? A standard Win98 CD? Or some "Recovery CD"? -- Gary S. Terhune MS-MVP Shell/User www.grystmill.com "Joe T" wrote in message ... Ok, I did something stupid. I can only boot into safe mode now. I won't go into details but it involved updating motherboard drivers. Now when I boot up it gives me a black screen and says "Unable to initialize CONFIGMG device. Restart compter. Years ago I had a simular problem and just overlayed my 98se without losing my files. Can someone point me to a link or instructions to reinstall without formating the drive? I just can't remember how I did it before. I have all disks needed. I tried restore but it didn't work. |
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