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Old January 24th 10, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
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Default network card driver issue

I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc
  #2  
Old January 24th 10, 09:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Default network card driver issue

On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:
I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc


Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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  #3  
Old January 24th 10, 09:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Posts: 1,830
Default network card driver issue

On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:
I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc


Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #4  
Old January 25th 10, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
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Posts: 67
Default network card driver issue

On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:

I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc

Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.


I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers
on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without
re-installing drivers.

I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for
relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you
click on the driver properties?
mc
  #5  
Old January 25th 10, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
mc
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 67
Default network card driver issue

On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:

I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc

Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.


I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers
on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without
re-installing drivers.

I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for
relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you
click on the driver properties?
mc
  #6  
Old January 25th 10, 01:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
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Posts: 1,830
Default network card driver issue

On 01/24/2010 07:51 PM, mc wrote:
On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:

I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc

Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.


I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers
on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without
re-installing drivers.


Oh, then that may be the normal, the drivers must be "started" for them
to work. Try again and see if they remain, if so, then you have fixed
the problem to that point. You can still do the Safe Mode activity to
ensure there are no potential conflicts or invalid entries.
Though FIRST create a backup of the registry and save it somewhere
other than the default location.


I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for
relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you
click on the driver properties?
mc


Sort of. When you are in Safe Mode ALL the *supposed* drivers will
appear under the Network adapters heading [unless USB or something, not
in your case] in Device Manager under the various classes/headings.
There you see if multiple versions or old [as in something previously
used and removed/replaced] drivers/adapters exist. These were/are called
"ghost" drivers which can interfere with installations or usage of same
devices or other adapters. The multiples generally occur when numerous
failed installations stack the entries/drivers causing the conflicts or
system errors.
*IF* they appear [you find them] then just remove them all and start over.

Same is true of other driver areas where you might find multiple
entries for keyboards, mouse, floppy and/or hard drives, or other
entries [as in you have only one, and two or more supposed
drives/adapters/whatever exist]. Avoid changing anything in the
System/motherboard area since you are unfamiliar with it might need or
contain. AND do NOT remove the default monitor if it shows under display.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #7  
Old January 25th 10, 01:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_17_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,830
Default network card driver issue

On 01/24/2010 07:51 PM, mc wrote:
On 1/24/2010 4:01 PM, MEB wrote:
On 01/24/2010 01:38 PM, mc wrote:

I have a 3com ethernet III ISA (3c509/3c509B) card in one of packard
bell machines with win 98se and for some reason whenever I turn the
computer off I always have to re-load the drivers. I can re-boot all day
long with no problem, its only when I turn the machine off. Anyone seen
an issuse like this (perhaps last century~1997)?
mc

Couple things to try:

First make sure to write down what your present settings are for your
network and/or the adapter.

Second, look he
3C905B - Microsoft Windows 98 - BIOS has not assigned an interrupt (IRQ)
Code 29 - includes indications of other failures
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/ino.../139ba_5ea.htm

The above checks out okay but no fix, OR the fixes do not work or
apply, then:

Start to Safe Mode and look for multiple installed drivers in the
System Network Devices; if so, un-install ALL of those drivers.
Re-install using Normal startup. Restart again to Normal mode,
re-install, shutdown-re-start and check to see if that took care of the
problem.

*IF not* then [after checking in Safe Mode and un-installing anything
found] re-start to normal mode DO NOT INSTALL if Found New Hardware
pops-up when starting, just close it. Go to Control Panel - Find New
Hardware - and run through the process, install whatever it finds
[noting anything else found]. Close, restart and see if that fixes your
issue.

*IF NOT*, then you may need to remove *all* of your Network from the
Win98 machine and re-install. FIRST *un-share* any folders and/or drives
and printers and/or other devices you have with your network on the
Win9X computer. Control Panel - Networking - un-install everything,
though first write down what you have and its settings. Do the restart
and re-install needed devices, clients, whatever, and setup the network
and shares again.

RE-CHECK the System Devices for any ! errors.


I tried the microsoft fix first, and it still did not load the drivers
on initial start up, but loaded the drivers on the 2nd boot without
re-installing drivers.


Oh, then that may be the normal, the drivers must be "started" for them
to work. Try again and see if they remain, if so, then you have fixed
the problem to that point. You can still do the Safe Mode activity to
ensure there are no potential conflicts or invalid entries.
Though FIRST create a backup of the registry and save it somewhere
other than the default location.


I'll try the safe mode next but I'm not sure of what I'm looking for
relative to the network drivers. Is this in the device manager where you
click on the driver properties?
mc


Sort of. When you are in Safe Mode ALL the *supposed* drivers will
appear under the Network adapters heading [unless USB or something, not
in your case] in Device Manager under the various classes/headings.
There you see if multiple versions or old [as in something previously
used and removed/replaced] drivers/adapters exist. These were/are called
"ghost" drivers which can interfere with installations or usage of same
devices or other adapters. The multiples generally occur when numerous
failed installations stack the entries/drivers causing the conflicts or
system errors.
*IF* they appear [you find them] then just remove them all and start over.

Same is true of other driver areas where you might find multiple
entries for keyboards, mouse, floppy and/or hard drives, or other
entries [as in you have only one, and two or more supposed
drives/adapters/whatever exist]. Avoid changing anything in the
System/motherboard area since you are unfamiliar with it might need or
contain. AND do NOT remove the default monitor if it shows under display.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
 




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