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  #1  
Old July 12th 05, 05:21 AM
Star
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Default Display Adapter - Update Drivers Yes/No ?

Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX... I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose 98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star


  #2  
Old July 12th 05, 06:21 AM
Brian A.
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The updated SIS650GX chipset can be obtained he
http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

You can also try:
SiS Chipset Identification Online Utility
http://www.sis.com/support/support_prodid.htm

The SiS Online Chipset Identification System helps you to identify the chipset
model of your SiS-based system. By using this tool, it will direct you to
download the correct driver for your needs.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX... I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose 98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star



  #3  
Old July 12th 05, 10:49 AM
Star
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Brian,
Like I mentioned, I previously had both 98SE & W-XP. I've been to the SIS
site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but not
w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having trouble
running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I removed
the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are placed by
SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*. I
never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I did do the one step, since I have the MB book.

This is my problem, 650GX is for W-XP, mine is identified as Product: SiS
650, Chip M650 Rev 00, this is the **Display advanced settings**, SiS info
pkg.

In the Device Mgr. also it is listed as SiS 650. I've learned this, 98SE
does not like 650GX, and like I mentioned the Sis 650 was installed from the
MB CD. Yes, in W-XP it showed up as 650GX and I had neat stuff and plenty
of controls, I hardly have nada in 98SE, just Gamma & Video basically. Now,
I hope you can understand why I'm confused and don't update the display
adapter ??

I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS, the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range. Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts pls.

Star

"Brian A." gonefish'[email protected] wrote in message
...
The updated SIS650GX chipset can be obtained he
http://www.sis.com/download/download_step1.php

You can also try:
SiS Chipset Identification Online Utility
http://www.sis.com/support/support_prodid.htm

The SiS Online Chipset Identification System helps you to identify the

chipset
model of your SiS-based system. By using this tool, it will direct you to
download the correct driver for your needs.

--

Brian A. Sesko
{ MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://basconotw.mvps.org/



"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support

CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support

CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison

to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm

very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire

pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one

driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the

timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...

I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose

98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE

has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from

SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same

problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star





  #4  
Old July 12th 05, 05:20 PM
Star
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PCR Pro,
Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you pls. read
this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.

Thank, Star.

Thanks, Star
"Star" wrote in message
...
Hello,
Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers for
98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the support CD
and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the support CD.
This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.

Product: SiS 650
Softwa VS. 2.12
Driver VS: 2.12
12-02-2002
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120
Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
File Version: 4.13.01.2120

I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers for
Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as *Compatible*
when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in comparison to
Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...

I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however I'm

very
confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the entire pkg.
since it's a compatible pkg.

I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one driver
that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and I
couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get the

timing
right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.

Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I go to
ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
P4SGX-MX.....
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...

I'm
not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??

I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display, choose

98SE
and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for 98SE,
however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then 98SE

has
been around since 1999.

I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the best
compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago from

SIS,
it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same

problem
that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at iit's
stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the hard
way, after the fact.

Thank you,

Star




  #5  
Old July 12th 05, 07:14 PM
PCR
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| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ?

I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's been
through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to play
with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
reinstalled with a click. STILL...

It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
(beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor *out
of range* errors again.

| I've been to the SIS
| site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but
not
| w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
trouble
| running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
removed
| the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
placed by
| SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
| install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
I
| never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
cannot click...

• Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
(240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
control should appear.You receive script errors...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897

• Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
(283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
following conditions is true: The Web page...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| PCR Pro,
| Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you pls.
read
| this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.
|
| Thank, Star.
|
| Thanks, Star
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hello,
| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the
support CD
| and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the
support CD.
| This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.
|
| Product: SiS 650
| Softwa VS. 2.12
| Driver VS: 2.12
| 12-02-2002
| Chipset: SIS 650GX
| SIS 962L
| VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
|
| Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
| File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
|
| I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers
for
| Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as
*Compatible*
| when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in
comparison to
| Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...
|
| I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however
I'm
| very
| confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the
entire pkg.
| since it's a compatible pkg.
|
| I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one
driver
| that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
| monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and
I
| couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get
the
| timing
| right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.
|
| Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I
go to
| ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
| P4SGX-MX.....
|
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
| I'm
| not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??
|
| I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display,
choose
| 98SE
| and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for
98SE,
| however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then
98SE
| has
| been around since 1999.
|
| I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the
best
| compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago
from
| SIS,
| it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same
| problem
| that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
| problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at
iit's
| stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the
hard
| way, after the fact.
|
| Thank you,
|
| Star
|
|
|
|


  #6  
Old July 12th 05, 07:43 PM
PCR
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I don't see anything very relevant in those two articles I posted.
http://search.support.microsoft.com/...dv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
Search "ActiveX" does come up with about 20 articles. Perhaps go see.

Could be something wrong with the SiS site, too. Are you set for
"Medium" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone"?


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
| for
| | 98SE ?
|
| I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
| best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's
been
| through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to
play
| with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| reinstalled with a click. STILL...
|
| It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
| SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
| drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
| (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
| side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
*out
| of range* errors again.
|
| | I've been to the SIS
| | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past....
but
| not
| | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
| trouble
| | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
| removed
| | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| placed by
| | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me
to
| | install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
| I
| | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
downloads.
|
| I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| cannot click...
|
| • Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
| you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
| to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| control should appear.You receive script errors...
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
|
| • Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
| images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
| appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
| following conditions is true: The Web page...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
....snip


  #7  
Old July 13th 05, 03:10 AM
Star
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Hi PCR Pro, thanks for coming to this thread!!

Never have I had ActiveX problems, downloading the controls. I suspected
something wrong at the SIS site and I did a contact form to the webmaster to
inquire about it. I did Goggle searches about errors removing ActiveX
control errors, *unable to unregister from Windows* is what mine said, but
it did remove. I checked them out thoroughly, the dependent files for the
controls. The main one is the C:\Windows\SiS0000.inf. This is a big file,
I reviewed yesterday and just moments ago. At the bottom section, it has
device description and a list of vendors, for ASUS it is SIS 650, for other
manufs., I saw 650GX. The MB manual clearly reads
Chipset: SIS 650GX
SIS 962L
VGA SIS Real256 Graphics

So, I removed the ActiveX controls like I mentioned and did scanreg /restore
to the morning boot. I don't think those puppies installed completely and
that is why one didn't unregister.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
I don't see anything very relevant in those two articles I posted.
http://search.support.microsoft.com/...dv=1&spid=1139 MSKB
Search "ActiveX" does come up with about 20 articles. Perhaps go see.

Could be something wrong with the SiS site, too. Are you set for
"Medium" at "Internet Options, Security tab, Internet Zone"?

I have IE locked up pretty tight, it's my only browser and I utilize my
*safe zone*, settings are low only in safe zone, if I want a activeX
control, I simply put the site in my *safe zone*.

Oh, I did search about ActiveX too at Microsoft, all the error messages,
except for yesterday, have been totally successful w/ActiveX, I do think
it's the SiS site. I was going to try again, but decided not to. The chipset
identification tool just gives me the same info as I can read myself in the
System Info tool, plus all the info is in the display/settings tab/advanced,
I have a SIS info tab that also gives the info.

To suddenly have out of range after installing display software and drivers
and restarting, surely must mean that the drivers are wrong, correct ? I
reverted back and I was fine again. For sure, I don't need that!!

Thanks PCR Pro

Star

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| | Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
| for
| | 98SE ?
|
| I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
| best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's
been
| through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to
play
| with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
| reinstalled with a click. STILL...
|
| It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
| SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
| drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
| (beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
| side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor
*out
| of range* errors again.
|
| | I've been to the SIS
| | site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past....
but
| not
| | w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
| trouble
| | running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
| removed
| | the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
| placed by
| | SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| | possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me
to
| | install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
| I
| | never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX
downloads.
|
| I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
| cannot click...
|
| . Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
| (240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
| you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
| to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
| control should appear.You receive script errors...
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897
|
| . Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
| (283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
| images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
| appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
| following conditions is true: The Web page...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807
...snip




  #8  
Old July 13th 05, 03:50 AM
Star
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PCR,
"PCR" wrote in message
...
| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ?

I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's been
through it. I only have a SoftPaq from Compaq to use when I want to play
with my Video Adapter. It's uninstallable in Add/Remove Programs &
reinstalled with a click. STILL...

It sounds to me you are a SiS 650, at least on the Win98 side, if the
SiS info package & MSInfo32 said so. The site said you have the latest
drivers. So, that is that. Likely, they did not update them further
(beyond 2002) to provide the options/functionality you get on the XP
side. You don't want to grab something wrong & end up with monitor *out
of range* errors again.

****** If you go here, no rush
http://www.sis.com/download/

This is the SiS 1-2-3 page, no activeX controls required. Anyway after you
do the 1-2-3, you see these software/driver pkgs.
File info.

*** 650_221_win98me.zip
Version
v2.21
Release date
2003-11-18
Product supported
SiS651, SiS650, SiS740, SiS650GL, SiSM650, SiS650GX,
File size
20,452KB
OS supported
Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows ME,

** The one above may work, what are your thoughts...
** The one below, is a no go, It's the one that put the monitor out of
range, looking at the file name, I'm pretty sure that it was the zip file I
downloaded.

Anyway, maybe the right thing to do is nothing!!

*** SiS UniVGA3 Graphics Driver
File name
uvga3_367.zip
Version
v3.67
Release date
2005-04-15
Product supported
SiSM650, SiS760, SiS741GX, SiS740, SiS741, SiS651, SiS650GX, SiS650GL,
SiS650, SiSM741, SiSM661MX, SiSM661FX,
File size
16,546KB
OS supported
Windows ME, Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows 98 SE, Windows 98, Windows XP
64-Bit Edition,

Thanks again, I'm not sure even on the 1st entry, specifically it is for
W98, 98SE & ME, however.

Star

| I've been to the SIS
| site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but
not
| w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having
trouble
| running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I
removed
| the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are
placed by
| SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
| possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
| install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*.
I
| never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I don't know. You already did what I would try. Now, I'm offline &
cannot click...

. Web Pages with ActiveX Controls Are Not Displayed Properly
(240897) - When you view a Web site that contains an ActiveX control,
you may experience any of the following symptoms: You are not prompted
to download and install the control.A red X is displayed where the
control should appear.You receive script errors...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;240897

. Pictures Are Not Displayed on Web Sites in Internet Explorer
(283807) - When you open a Web page, one or more pictures (graphics or
images) may not be displayed. Instead, a red X, or a placeholder, may
appear in place of the images. This behavior can occur if one of the
following conditions is true: The Web page...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;283807


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| PCR Pro,
| Pls. give me some feedback regarding my display adapter, can you pls.
read
| this post and the other post I wrote in this thread.
|
| Thank, Star.
|
| Thanks, Star
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hello,
| Need help not sure if I should try to update display adapter drivers
for
| 98SE ? The MB is a ASUS P4SGX-MX, Celeron 2000Ghz. I have the
support CD
| and I'm currently using the software & driver pkgs on from the
support CD.
| This is the stats for the main drivers for super vga display.
|
| Product: SiS 650
| Softwa VS. 2.12
| Driver VS: 2.12
| 12-02-2002
| Chipset: SIS 650GX
| SIS 962L
| VGA SIS Real256 Graphics
|
| Driver: sisgl.dll - Super VGA OpenGL ICD
| File Date: 12/2/2002 4:47 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx32.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 32 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:00 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisdx.dll - Super VGA DirectX Driver 16 Bit
| File Date: 11/21/2002 11:01 AM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.vxd - Virtual Display Minidriver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:14 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
| Driver: sisgr.drv - Super VGA Display Driver
| File Date: 11/28/2002 3:17 PM
| Company Name: Silicon Integrated Systems Corporation
| File Version: 4.13.01.2120
|
| I was initially dual booting, I also had Win-XP Prof. The drivers
for
| Win-XP were always right-on, the pkg. for 98-SE shows up as
*Compatible*
| when you install and I don't have many settings for 98-SE in
comparison to
| Win-XP, many functions just arn't available, etc...
|
| I would like to update the drivers for the display adapter, however
I'm
| very
| confused as to what I should download. I don't want to do the
entire pkg.
| since it's a compatible pkg.
|
| I'm nervous about this... because I was not smart and took the one
driver
| that was offered once and it totally crashed the puter, actually the
| monitor, not the puter. After, the monitor was *out-of-range* and
I
| couldn't see the desktop of course. And, it took me 3 days to get
the
| timing
| right to get into safe mode and fix the problem.
|
| Should I get the driver update from ASUS vs. the SIS site.... if I
go to
| ASUS, they are displayed on my MB site which is, link to the ASUS
| P4SGX-MX.....
|
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...lName=P4SGX-MX...
| I'm
| not sure and possibly, I'm already using the best drivers??
|
| I've went to SIS site and click on downloads, highlight display,
choose
| 98SE
| and SIS 650 and it seems I'm already using the best drivers for
98SE,
| however my drivers are from Dec. 2002, therefore seem old, but then
98SE
| has
| been around since 1999.
|
| I would appreciate guidance, and if I should update, which is the
best
| compatable pick !! I downloaded an entire pkg. approx. 1 year ago
from
| SIS,
| it was drivers and the the software. Unfortunately, I had the same
| problem
| that I experienced at Windows Update.... monitor *out of range*, bad
| problem!! The driver that is at Windows Update, I have looked at
iit's
| stats and it is older than the one I'm using, however I learned the
hard
| way, after the fact.
|
| Thank you,
|
| Star
|
|
|
|




  #9  
Old July 13th 05, 05:28 AM
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"PCR" wrote in message
...
I've read through them a couple of times & must conclude the matter is
best left in Brian A.'s hands or in the hands of someone else who's been
through it.


Star only wants you PCR. IIC you are always requested with starry eyes.


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Old July 13th 05, 06:02 AM
Brian A.
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"Star" wrote in message
...
Brian,
Like I mentioned, I previously had both 98SE & W-XP. I've been to the SIS
site and I have done the chip identification tool in the past.... but not
w/the install of Win that I currently have. Unfortunately I'm having trouble
running the activeX controls at this time. Tried earlier today. I removed
the controls from the Downloaded Program flldr, two controls are placed by
SIS, both controls remove, but one w/message *unable to unregister*,
possibly it never registered, cause SIS kept repeatedly telling me to
install the tool, probably because it *never installed completely*. I
never rec'd the security messages that you get for activeX downloads.

I did do the one step, since I have the MB book.

This is my problem, 650GX is for W-XP, mine is identified as Product: SiS
650, Chip M650 Rev 00, this is the **Display advanced settings**, SiS info
pkg.

In the Device Mgr. also it is listed as SiS 650. I've learned this, 98SE
does not like 650GX, and like I mentioned the Sis 650 was installed from the
MB CD. Yes, in W-XP it showed up as 650GX and I had neat stuff and plenty
of controls, I hardly have nada in 98SE, just Gamma & Video basically. Now,
I hope you can understand why I'm confused and don't update the display
adapter ??


You shouldn't be confused. XP and 98 are different birds of a feather and will
have different configs/options/settings. An updated driver may or may not
provide more options, yet it may have a fix for an issue for the prior
chip/adapter driver version. If you're having problems with newer drivers
another thing to look into is the BIOS ver., some newer driver updates may also
require an updated BIOS.


I'm lost on this... I have brought up the Display Drivers on both the SiS &
ASUS sites and I look for 650 not 650GX, and it appears I'm stuck w/what I
have. I do see my driver pkg. and it is truly identified differently than
the others!! I did download 1 yr. ago the newest 650GX pkg. from SIS, the
install went well, restart the puter and the monitor is out of range. Why
would the monitor be out of range and go dark, because the driver is wrong,
correct ???

If you can help me more would appreciate, I know not to go for the 650GX but
I would think I could get a newer driver than Dec. 2002, more thoughts pls.


The drivers at Asus and SIS are dated 2004.

The drivers at the link I provided are the drivers for your integrated
graphics. Driver packages may, will and do many times include drivers for
multiple chips and OS's. That is why it is always very important to read the
installation instructions provided by the manufacturer, also included in most
downloads, definitely included in the Asus and SIS d/l's.


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