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  #1  
Old September 27th 17, 06:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Cant access some of a Partition

It appears that one of my hard drives is going to crap. It's my second
(slave) drive, which has 3 partitions on it. 120gb IDE drive. Formatted
to Fat32. This is a Win98se computer.

Oddly, from Dos, I can see all the folders in that partition. From
Windows, I only see about half of them. This partition contains storage
files. Most are backed up, but there is a large folder containing some
valuable info that I do not have backed up. In fact I first noticed this
problem when I wanted to backup that folder to am external HDD.

I ran Scandisk, first the fast method, which told me to use the thorough
method. I ran the thorough one, which took hours. While running, it got
to one cluster and said that one can not be fixed. The rest of that
partition tested ok.

When scandisk ended, it said that it could not fix that one error, and
when I tried to close Scandisk, Windows locked up.

Temporarily, I removed that drive. Since it's all storage, I can still
use the computer. I intend to buy another drive of the same size and
type. However, I really need to save that data, especially that one
large folder, which contains many sub folders.

Like I said, I do not see that folder from Windows, but I can see it
from Dos (I dont understand that). Of course in Dos, all the filenames
are truncated.

I can either stick it back in this computer, or probably connect it via
USB to my XP laptop.

What software can I use to extract the data I want to save? I do have
Partition Magic (not sure if that will help). If there is a bad cluster,
I'd expect a few files getting lost, but I cant see many of the folders
that according to Dos are still there.

Please help!!!

Note: I am not a Linux user, but maybe I could connect this drive to
another computer and boot that computer with some smallish linux such as
Puppy Linux, from a bootable USB. I have used that method to retrieve
data from an XP drive, after the motherboard failed, but I never tried
it to retrieve data from a failing HDD.





  #2  
Old September 28th 17, 04:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Cant access some of a Partition

anonymous wrote:

It appears that one of my hard drives is going to crap. It's my second
(slave) drive, which has 3 partitions on it. 120gb IDE drive. Formatted
to Fat32. This is a Win98se computer.

Oddly, from Dos, I can see all the folders in that partition. From
Windows, I only see about half of them. This partition contains storage
files. Most are backed up, but there is a large folder containing some
valuable info that I do not have backed up. In fact I first noticed this
problem when I wanted to backup that folder to am external HDD.

I ran Scandisk, first the fast method, which told me to use the thorough
method. I ran the thorough one, which took hours. While running, it got
to one cluster and said that one can not be fixed. The rest of that
partition tested ok.

When scandisk ended, it said that it could not fix that one error, and
when I tried to close Scandisk, Windows locked up.

[snip]
Note: I am not a Linux user, but maybe I could connect this drive to
another computer and boot that computer with some smallish linux such as
Puppy Linux, from a bootable USB. I have used that method to retrieve
data from an XP drive, after the motherboard failed, but I never tried
it to retrieve data from a failing HDD.


That's the exact method I would suggest, although there's no real need to
use a separate computer: connect the new drive and the old drive to separate
controllers (not master and slave on the same controller), boot from USB (or
CD if the computer is too old), copy.

But I'm not entirely convinced the drive is failing, aside from that one bad
cluster. If you have a util that can check the SMART data (most modern
BIOSes can) I would start there. You could also connect it to the XP machine
and run chkdsk on it and see what happens. Or, with that same bootable Linux
USB/CD/whatever, run fsck.vfat on the bad partition (i.e. 'fsck.vfat -aft
/dev/hdb1', where the switches tell it to a: automatically repair the
filesystem, f: salvage unused cluster chains to files, and t: mark
unreadable clusters as bad).

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One greeted death like an old friend.
  #3  
Old September 28th 17, 06:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Cant access some of a Partition

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:43:15 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
wrote:

anonymous wrote:

It appears that one of my hard drives is going to crap. It's my second
(slave) drive, which has 3 partitions on it. 120gb IDE drive. Formatted
to Fat32. This is a Win98se computer.

Oddly, from Dos, I can see all the folders in that partition. From
Windows, I only see about half of them. This partition contains storage
files. Most are backed up, but there is a large folder containing some
valuable info that I do not have backed up. In fact I first noticed this
problem when I wanted to backup that folder to am external HDD.

I ran Scandisk, first the fast method, which told me to use the thorough
method. I ran the thorough one, which took hours. While running, it got
to one cluster and said that one can not be fixed. The rest of that
partition tested ok.

When scandisk ended, it said that it could not fix that one error, and
when I tried to close Scandisk, Windows locked up.

[snip]
Note: I am not a Linux user, but maybe I could connect this drive to
another computer and boot that computer with some smallish linux such as
Puppy Linux, from a bootable USB. I have used that method to retrieve
data from an XP drive, after the motherboard failed, but I never tried
it to retrieve data from a failing HDD.


That's the exact method I would suggest, although there's no real need to
use a separate computer: connect the new drive and the old drive to separate
controllers (not master and slave on the same controller), boot from USB (or
CD if the computer is too old), copy.

But I'm not entirely convinced the drive is failing, aside from that one bad
cluster. If you have a util that can check the SMART data (most modern
BIOSes can) I would start there. You could also connect it to the XP machine
and run chkdsk on it and see what happens. Or, with that same bootable Linux
USB/CD/whatever, run fsck.vfat on the bad partition (i.e. 'fsck.vfat -aft
/dev/hdb1', where the switches tell it to a: automatically repair the
filesystem, f: salvage unused cluster chains to files, and t: mark
unreadable clusters as bad).


The computer is too old to boot from USB. (from the year 2000), and it
dont have a CD drive (I have no need for CDs).

I dod have another desktop computer that has XP installed. But that is a
much newer machine and it has some other kind of drive, (not IDE). I
think it's Sata or something like that. So I dont think I can just plug
this IDE drive into it.

My guess is that the easiest way is to buy one of those kits that allow
any hard drive to be converted to an external USB drive. I plan to order
one of them from ebay today.

I dont think the whole drive is failing either. It has 3 partitions. G:
H: I: (H: and I: work fine). But I think once a drive starts to show bad
clusters, it's starting to fail, and I should replace it.

What sort of utility will check SMART?

The Scandisk.log file shows the bad cluster is NOT being used, so
nothing should be lost. I can only figure the problem is in the MBR.
Just for the heck of it, I loaded Partition Magic, and PM showed that
partition to be filled to capacity. Yet, going to My Computer and
showing Properties for that G: partition, shows it's only half full
(which I know is true). It's a 50gb partition and contains about 24gb of
data.

Although I can boot to linux on a machine that boots from USB, I get
completely lost when it involves the linux command line. I can only do
the basic GUI shell.

I found that I can copy my data from that bad partition to another
partition, using DOS, but the folder I need to save, contains several
hundred sub folders. I dont mind copying each one folder by folder, but
all long filenames are going to be lost, and that will mean hundreds of
hours spent to rename everything back to normal. The data is very
important, so if I must do that, I will. Then too, I will have to do it
in segments, because no other partition (on the other HDD) is big enough
for this data. But I can do part of it, and then dump that saved data to
an external drive.

It's amazing how quickly one or two bad clusters can totally screw up a
whole drive or partition. I'd think that scandisk would have enough
sense to mark these bad clustera as BAD, and leave everything else
intact. I guess scandisk is not a very useful utility.

The Scandisk.log file shows this:
(Copied from Scandisk.log)


Drive G_120 (G contained the following errors:

Error reading your drive.
ScanDisk may have corrected this error when it performed a surface scan.
However, other errors may remain on your drive.
Resolution: Retry the read

Error reading your drive.
ScanDisk may have corrected this error when it performed a surface scan.
However, other errors may remain on your drive.
Resolution: Ignore this error and continue
Results: Error was not corrected.

ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 57856.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was corrected as specified above.

ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 135122.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was not corrected.
Results: Correction failed

ScanDisk found errors on this drive but did not fix all of them.


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Old September 28th 17, 07:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_2_]
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Default Cant access some of a Partition

In message ,
writes:
On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:43:15 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
wrote:

anonymous wrote:

It appears that one of my hard drives is going to crap. It's my second
(slave) drive, which has 3 partitions on it. 120gb IDE drive. Formatted
to Fat32. This is a Win98se computer.

Oddly, from Dos, I can see all the folders in that partition. From


How about from a DOS window?

Windows, I only see about half of them. This partition contains storage
files. Most are backed up, but there is a large folder containing some
valuable info that I do not have backed up. In fact I first noticed this
problem when I wanted to backup that folder to am external HDD.

I ran Scandisk, first the fast method, which told me to use the thorough
method. I ran the thorough one, which took hours. While running, it got
to one cluster and said that one can not be fixed. The rest of that
partition tested ok.

[]
The computer is too old to boot from USB. (from the year 2000), and it
dont have a CD drive (I have no need for CDs).


(Does it have a floppy drive? Not that that's relevant to this
discussion.)

I dod have another desktop computer that has XP installed. But that is a
much newer machine and it has some other kind of drive, (not IDE). I
think it's Sata or something like that. So I dont think I can just plug
this IDE drive into it.


If the drives are connected by narrow cables (about 1/2"), usually red,
then it's SATA. The _motherboard_ may have an IDE connector on it (it's
only relatively recently that motherboards without one have become
common), so you might be able to use that (with the existing ribbon
cable). As long as the BIOS doesn't try to boot from it.

My guess is that the easiest way is to buy one of those kits that allow
any hard drive to be converted to an external USB drive. I plan to order
one of them from ebay today.


There are roughly two sorts: an external housing, and a bare-bones sort
like these:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...o+IDE&_sacat=0
I'd say just for diagnostic purposes, go for that sort rather than the
housing. But make sure it's one that has a power supply (whether housing
or bare-bones) - a 3.5" (desktop) drive is likely to need more power,
especially at startup, than USB can provide.

I dont think the whole drive is failing either. It has 3 partitions. G:
H: I: (H: and I: work fine). But I think once a drive starts to show bad
clusters, it's starting to fail, and I should replace it.

What sort of utility will check SMART?


There are lots; the one I use is DiskCheckup, from PassMark
https://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm; it still works on
XP-SP3, so you should be able to use it on your other computer. (I don't
know any for '98, but I think there were some.)

The Scandisk.log file shows the bad cluster is NOT being used, so
nothing should be lost. I can only figure the problem is in the MBR.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but I must say I'm puzzled how you came to
that conclusion (-:!

Just for the heck of it, I loaded Partition Magic, and PM showed that
partition to be filled to capacity. Yet, going to My Computer and
showing Properties for that G: partition, shows it's only half full
(which I know is true). It's a 50gb partition and contains about 24gb of
data.

Interesting.
[]
hundred sub folders. I dont mind copying each one folder by folder, but
all long filenames are going to be lost, and that will mean hundreds of
hours spent to rename everything back to normal. The data is very
important, so if I must do that, I will. Then too, I will have to do it


I seem to remember DOS utilities to handle long filenames, which _might_
help. I don't remember any details.
[]
It's amazing how quickly one or two bad clusters can totally screw up a
whole drive or partition. I'd think that scandisk would have enough


It does seem odd - especially as you can see them in DOS. I wonder: does
your BIOS have the ability to tweak the computer to a lower speed to see
if it would work then? (Though I suspect I'm barking up a wrong tree.)

sense to mark these bad clustera as BAD, and leave everything else
intact. I guess scandisk is not a very useful utility.


Well, if you run it again, it'll be interesting to see if it names the
same clusters. I say this because modern drives have electronics which
move things around - the clusters that the computer thinks it's seeing
aren't directly mapped to ones on the disc, because the drive
electronics themselves swap things around to replace bad sectors. It'd
be interesting to find out if your drive is before or after this started
to happen.

The Scandisk.log file shows this:
(Copied from Scandisk.log)


Drive G_120 (G contained the following errors:

[]
ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 57856.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was corrected as specified above.


How did you specify? (Hopefully, mark bad sectors to avoid future use.)

ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 135122.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was not corrected.
Results: Correction failed


That's puzzling.
[]
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No, I haven't changed my mind - I'm perfectly happy with the one I have, thank
you.
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Old September 29th 17, 12:21 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Cant access some of a Partition

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:59:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,


[]
The computer is too old to boot from USB. (from the year 2000), and it
dont have a CD drive (I have no need for CDs).


(Does it have a floppy drive? Not that that's relevant to this
discussion.)


YES

I dod have another desktop computer that has XP installed. But that is a
much newer machine and it has some other kind of drive, (not IDE). I
think it's Sata or something like that. So I dont think I can just plug
this IDE drive into it.


If the drives are connected by narrow cables (about 1/2"), usually red,
then it's SATA. The _motherboard_ may have an IDE connector on it (it's
only relatively recently that motherboards without one have become
common), so you might be able to use that (with the existing ribbon
cable). As long as the BIOS doesn't try to boot from it.


Yep, then it is Sata.

My guess is that the easiest way is to buy one of those kits that allow
any hard drive to be converted to an external USB drive. I plan to order
one of them from ebay today.


There are roughly two sorts: an external housing, and a bare-bones sort
like these:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...o+IDE&_sacat=0
I'd say just for diagnostic purposes, go for that sort rather than the
housing. But make sure it's one that has a power supply (whether housing
or bare-bones) - a 3.5" (desktop) drive is likely to need more power,
especially at startup, than USB can provide.


I dont really need a case, but I'll get whatever works.

I dont think the whole drive is failing either. It has 3 partitions. G:
H: I: (H: and I: work fine). But I think once a drive starts to show bad
clusters, it's starting to fail, and I should replace it.

What sort of utility will check SMART?


There are lots; the one I use is DiskCheckup, from PassMark
https://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm; it still works on
XP-SP3, so you should be able to use it on your other computer. (I don't
know any for '98, but I think there were some.)


That webpage is invalid. Gave me a 404 error.

The Scandisk.log file shows the bad cluster is NOT being used, so
nothing should be lost. I can only figure the problem is in the MBR.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but I must say I'm puzzled how you came to
that conclusion (-:!

Just sort of a guess..... I am no expert.

Just for the heck of it, I loaded Partition Magic, and PM showed that
partition to be filled to capacity. Yet, going to My Computer and
showing Properties for that G: partition, shows it's only half full
(which I know is true). It's a 50gb partition and contains about 24gb of
data.

Interesting.
[]
hundred sub folders. I dont mind copying each one folder by folder, but
all long filenames are going to be lost, and that will mean hundreds of
hours spent to rename everything back to normal. The data is very
important, so if I must do that, I will. Then too, I will have to do it


I seem to remember DOS utilities to handle long filenames, which _might_
help. I don't remember any details.
[]
It's amazing how quickly one or two bad clusters can totally screw up a
whole drive or partition. I'd think that scandisk would have enough


It does seem odd - especially as you can see them in DOS. I wonder: does
your BIOS have the ability to tweak the computer to a lower speed to see
if it would work then? (Though I suspect I'm barking up a wrong tree.)

Not sure, I'll have to see.

sense to mark these bad clustera as BAD, and leave everything else
intact. I guess scandisk is not a very useful utility.


Well, if you run it again, it'll be interesting to see if it names the
same clusters. I say this because modern drives have electronics which
move things around - the clusters that the computer thinks it's seeing
aren't directly mapped to ones on the disc, because the drive
electronics themselves swap things around to replace bad sectors. It'd
be interesting to find out if your drive is before or after this started
to happen.

The Scandisk.log file shows this:
(Copied from Scandisk.log)


Drive G_120 (G contained the following errors:

[]
ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 57856.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was corrected as specified above.


How did you specify? (Hopefully, mark bad sectors to avoid future use.)

ScanDisk could not properly read from or write to cluster 135122.
This cluster is currently unused.
Resolution: Repair the error
Results: Error was not corrected.
Results: Correction failed


That's puzzling.
[]


I tried using a command prompt in Windows, and I only get ABORT RETRY
FAIL.

Trying to copy from Dos is giving me the same error on large files, only
small ones will copy.



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Old September 29th 17, 02:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_2_]
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Posts: 46
Default Cant access some of a Partition

In message ,
writes:

(Ah, you _are_ the person who posted in the Windows 7 newsgroup!)

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:59:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
I dod have another desktop computer that has XP installed. But that is a
much newer machine and it has some other kind of drive, (not IDE). I
think it's Sata or something like that. So I dont think I can just plug
this IDE drive into it.


If the drives are connected by narrow cables (about 1/2"), usually red,
then it's SATA. The _motherboard_ may have an IDE connector on it (it's
only relatively recently that motherboards without one have become
common), so you might be able to use that (with the existing ribbon
cable). As long as the BIOS doesn't try to boot from it.


Yep, then it is Sata.


I don't quite understand that reply to the previous paragraph (-:. To
avoid doubt: _Does_ the motherboard on your XP computer have an IDE
connector?

My guess is that the easiest way is to buy one of those kits that allow
any hard drive to be converted to an external USB drive. I plan to order
one of them from ebay today.


There are roughly two sorts: an external housing, and a bare-bones sort
like these:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...7.m570.l1313.T
R0.TRC0.H0.XUSB+to+IDE.TRS0&_nkw=USB+to+IDE&_sac at=0
I'd say just for diagnostic purposes, go for that sort rather than the
housing. But make sure it's one that has a power supply (whether housing
or bare-bones) - a 3.5" (desktop) drive is likely to need more power,
especially at startup, than USB can provide.


I dont really need a case, but I'll get whatever works.


External cases for 3.5" drives are rather chunky, and may not be that
good ventilation-wise. So I'd go for the cable - it's a lot quicker to
mess about with. The first one on that page that included a power supply
was seven dollars something.

I dont think the whole drive is failing either. It has 3 partitions. G:
H: I: (H: and I: work fine). But I think once a drive starts to show bad
clusters, it's starting to fail, and I should replace it.


(Agreed.)

What sort of utility will check SMART?


There are lots; the one I use is DiskCheckup, from PassMark
https://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm; it still works on
XP-SP3, so you should be able to use it on your other computer. (I don't
know any for '98, but I think there were some.)


That webpage is invalid. Gave me a 404 error.


Nope - I just tried it; it's fine. (Even in my old Firefox 26. [They're
up to 56/57 now.]) The direct download for the executable is
https://www.passmark.com/ftp/diskcheckup.exe .
[]
It's amazing how quickly one or two bad clusters can totally screw up a
whole drive or partition. I'd think that scandisk would have enough


If the bad cluster is in an index area (a directory, or - worse - the
FAT area), it will.
[]
sense to mark these bad clustera as BAD, and leave everything else
intact. I guess scandisk is not a very useful utility.


It can't fix things when the data isn't retrievable - nothing can.
[]
I tried using a command prompt in Windows, and I only get ABORT RETRY
FAIL.


Ah well, it was worth a try.

Trying to copy from Dos is giving me the same error on large files, only
small ones will copy.



3
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Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets
you. - Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear
  #7  
Old September 29th 17, 05:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Posts: 21
Default Cant access some of a Partition

On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:49:06 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:

(Ah, you _are_ the person who posted in the Windows 7 newsgroup!)

On Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:59:47 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
I dod have another desktop computer that has XP installed. But that is a
much newer machine and it has some other kind of drive, (not IDE). I
think it's Sata or something like that. So I dont think I can just plug
this IDE drive into it.

If the drives are connected by narrow cables (about 1/2"), usually red,
then it's SATA. The _motherboard_ may have an IDE connector on it (it's
only relatively recently that motherboards without one have become
common), so you might be able to use that (with the existing ribbon
cable). As long as the BIOS doesn't try to boot from it.


Yep, then it is Sata.


I don't quite understand that reply to the previous paragraph (-:. To
avoid doubt: _Does_ the motherboard on your XP computer have an IDE
connector?

My guess is that the easiest way is to buy one of those kits that allow
any hard drive to be converted to an external USB drive. I plan to order
one of them from ebay today.

There are roughly two sorts: an external housing, and a bare-bones sort
like these:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...7.m570.l1313.T
R0.TRC0.H0.XUSB+to+IDE.TRS0&_nkw=USB+to+IDE&_sa cat=0
I'd say just for diagnostic purposes, go for that sort rather than the
housing. But make sure it's one that has a power supply (whether housing
or bare-bones) - a 3.5" (desktop) drive is likely to need more power,
especially at startup, than USB can provide.


I dont really need a case, but I'll get whatever works.


External cases for 3.5" drives are rather chunky, and may not be that
good ventilation-wise. So I'd go for the cable - it's a lot quicker to
mess about with. The first one on that page that included a power supply
was seven dollars something.

I dont think the whole drive is failing either. It has 3 partitions. G:
H: I: (H: and I: work fine). But I think once a drive starts to show bad
clusters, it's starting to fail, and I should replace it.


(Agreed.)

What sort of utility will check SMART?

There are lots; the one I use is DiskCheckup, from PassMark
https://www.passmark.com/products/diskcheckup.htm; it still works on
XP-SP3, so you should be able to use it on your other computer. (I don't
know any for '98, but I think there were some.)


That webpage is invalid. Gave me a 404 error.


Nope - I just tried it; it's fine. (Even in my old Firefox 26. [They're
up to 56/57 now.]) The direct download for the executable is
https://www.passmark.com/ftp/diskcheckup.exe .
[]
It's amazing how quickly one or two bad clusters can totally screw up a
whole drive or partition. I'd think that scandisk would have enough


If the bad cluster is in an index area (a directory, or - worse - the
FAT area), it will.
[]
sense to mark these bad clustera as BAD, and leave everything else
intact. I guess scandisk is not a very useful utility.


It can't fix things when the data isn't retrievable - nothing can.
[]
I tried using a command prompt in Windows, and I only get ABORT RETRY
FAIL.


Ah well, it was worth a try.

Trying to copy from Dos is giving me the same error on large files, only
small ones will copy.



Yes, I also posted to the Windows 7 newsgroup. I know thats not the
proper group, but this one is very near dead, and the XP group is also
very slow. Normally I would not post off topic, but I felt I had little
choice.

I don t know if my XP machine has IDE connectors (yet). That computer is
sort of built into a shelf and will require a lot of work to access, and
if it only had SATA cable plugs, I will do all of that for nothing. I
will do what is needed, but I might first go to my storage shed and dig
out another unused computer. I know there is an old Dell in there that
has XP and works, but it's a very slow computer, which is why I dont use
it. But for this, it may be what I need.

The DiskCheckup, from PassMark did give me a 404 error, but maybe it
was down, or maybe my dialup is just too slow, or my Firefox 3.x cant
talk to that site. (A lot of websites no longer work for me).

THANKS

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On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:49:06 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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Nope - I just tried it; it's fine. (Even in my old Firefox 26. [They're
up to 56/57 now.]) The direct download for the executable is
https://www.passmark.com/ftp/diskcheckup.exe .
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Yep, that works. It's downloading now. Will take about 20 min to
download on dialup. but it's working, and I'm up to 32% downloaded.


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In message ,
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:49:06 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


Nope - I just tried it; it's fine. (Even in my old Firefox 26. [They're
up to 56/57 now.]) The direct download for the executable is
https://www.passmark.com/ftp/diskcheckup.exe .
[]


Yep, that works. It's downloading now. Will take about 20 min to
download on dialup. but it's working, and I'm up to 32% downloaded.

I'd forgotten how slow dialup is - it's only 1.59 MB!

However, I fear (you'd have seen from the page) it may not work before
XP-SP3. Though should work on your XP machine, but you'll need the
USB-to-IDE cable we've been discussing (I assume that machine has USB
ports). Or your slow XP machine from the shed. (Depending on why that
one _is_ slow, the ailing drive might work better on it. Or worse!)
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Old September 29th 17, 11:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:
In message ,
writes:
On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:49:06 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:


Nope - I just tried it; it's fine. (Even in my old Firefox 26. [They're
up to 56/57 now.]) The direct download for the executable is
https://www.passmark.com/ftp/diskcheckup.exe .
[]


Yep, that works. It's downloading now. Will take about 20 min to
download on dialup. but it's working, and I'm up to 32% downloaded.

I'd forgotten how slow dialup is - it's only 1.59 MB!

However, I fear (you'd have seen from the page) it may not work before
XP-SP3. Though should work on your XP machine, but you'll need the
USB-to-IDE cable we've been discussing (I assume that machine has USB
ports). Or your slow XP machine from the shed. (Depending on why that
one _is_ slow, the ailing drive might work better on it. Or worse!)


I checked what I was using for SMART on my Win98 install:

SpeedFan:
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

Also AIDA32, but it's no longer maintained and a bit overkill.

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