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Old November 1st 09, 03:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware
Noel Paton[_3_]
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chances of catastrophic failure in an old ME system? - 100% over time!
hardware WILL die eventually.
what would happen when (not if!) it happens? - possibly you'll get lucky and
be able to transfer your HD to a new motherboard and pull the data off, but
it's also possible that the HD will be the failure point, and you'll lose
everything permanently unless you backed it up.
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"Justin" wrote in message
...
But what are the chances of that and what would happen if it did get
messed up

"Mart" wrote:

Hmm... Well, you've just opened a whole new can of worms. Seems your
system
is already "messed up".

No System Restore? That really needs fixing for a start.
Have you tried Start / Programs / Accessories / System Tools / System
Restore ?
It *might* even be something simple like you never having done any of the
MS
WinMe updates. (There is a known bug with SR which requires an MS update
to
fix it). But if you cant find it in System Tools, you need to search
for a
file called rstrui.exe

Getting back to trying to clone your HD - unless you try to do it as I
previously described, i.e cloning to a new HDD, then you're in for a lot
of
messy (spanning CD's, finding suitable DOS drivers for your memory stick
etc.) and probably unsuccessful work. I'd suggest you go down the "BootIt
Next Generation" route from TeraByte.
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm
But your on your own then.

However, if you only want to back-up your critical (personal) data and
files, (which you should always do as a matter of course, anyway) then
just
copy and paste all your data files to a memory stick.

Otherwise, in the event of a 'catastrophic failure', i.e. totally "messed
up" system then you'll probably find it far simpler to wipe your HDD and
do
a fresh, clean install of WinMe (and whatever other programs you have
installed) and then simply restore your backed-up data.

Just a thought, I "guess" your WinMe pc is beginning to get a bit long in
the tooth - 10 years+? - and the fact that you've only got a 4.02 Gb HDD
(now obsolete and no longer manufactured) suggests that your HDD might be
reaching its twilight days. Not to mention that WinMe ceased to be
supported
in 2006 and MS now really want you off it.

Whether you wish to throw good money (and more importantly - effort) at
an
old, obsolete and unsupported pc is your choice, but my strategy would be
to
back-up all critical data to a memory stick and save my money to invest
in a
brand new pc when your WinMe kit finally "catastrophically fails" - as it
surely will. Your backed-up data can easily be transferred to a new
Operating System and your memory stick is still good for your new pc too.

Mart



"Justin" wrote in message
...
BUT system restore has not worked for a while and for some reason it
will
not
come back and i have serched for it in the system and it is like it is
just
gone well i might be able to find it do you know the name of the system
restore file in the system32 folder. oohh and i am cloning the hd it
only
holds 4.02GB so i was going to burn it to a cd or do you think my best
bet
is
to just use a flashdrive

"Mart" wrote:

No, not if you're careful and stick to my advice of setting a restore
point
BEFORE you start work.

However, you WILL need to install a software "burning" utility before
you
can "burn" your CD's, its not just as simple as substituting the cd
drive
only. Naturally, that will add a new program to your pc and in turn
will
modify your Registry - but it wouldn't (shouldn't) get you "messed
up".

Once you've finished with the "temporary" cd burner, you can
'uninstall'
the
software "burning" utility, which will remove the previous Registry
modifications and then replace the original cd drive. Then, unless
you've
done something wrong, there would (should) be no need for you to
revert
back
to your original SR point - BUT there would be no harm done in doing
so,
if
you wanted to.

If, for any reason you do get "messed up" then System Restore is your
insurance policy. That's why MS introduced and included it in WinMe -
the
first OS to use SR.

BTW - If you're still not happy, you could always 'burn' your back-up
data
to a USB memory stick. Remember, a CD will only hold about 700Mb of
data,
whereas a memory stick can hold many Gb's of data. And, no software
utility
is necessary.

But, in your original post, you mentioned "a backup of the whole
system" -
it is assumed that you mean a backup of ALL of your *data* and NOT a
complete copy (clone) of the actual Hard Drive (C: Drive).

If you really mean a copy of the C: drive, then that's a completely
different ball game and your simplest approach would be to get a
second
hard
drive and use the drive manufacturer's own software utilities to copy
or
clone your original C: drive to your new second drive. These utilities
can
be downloaded from the manufacturer's web site.

Note that none of the above approaches would (should) "mess up the
system" -
if you do it properly - plus!, you've still got SR if you do go wrong.

Mart



"Justin" wrote in message
...
so there is a small posibality it could get messed up

ps nothing is wrong with the cd crive i just need to use a burner

"Mart" wrote:

Without asking what is wrong with your existing "cd drive" and
assuming
the
following :-

#1 :- Existing "cd drive" is a CD burner.
#2 :- Replacement "cd drive" is a CD burner.
#3 :- You have a 'burning' software utility - e.g Nero, etc.,

then all should work fine - however, just to be doubly sure (belt &
braces),
you should set a System Restore point BEFORE you start the work.
That
way,
you can always replace the 'different (replacement) cd drive' with
the
'original cd drive' if all goes pear-shaped and recall the previous
SR
point
back to where you were before you started the work.

Mart



"Justin" wrote in message
...
Would it mess up the system if i temporally put in a different cd
drive
to
burn a backup of the whole system


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Old November 1st 09, 10:13 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware
Mart
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Justin asked :-

But what are the chances of that and what would happen if it did get
messed up


Noel replied :-

chances of catastrophic failure in an old ME system? - 100% over time!
hardware WILL die eventually.
what would happen when (not if!) it happens? - possibly you'll get lucky
and be able to transfer your HD to a new motherboard and pull the data
off, but it's also possible that the HD will be the failure point, and
you'll lose everything permanently unless you backed it up.


Seems a fair conclusion to me - nothing really to add.

Mart


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Old November 4th 09, 03:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.hardware
Justin[_2_]
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Ok thanks Every one I think that i will just wait till i get another
flashdrive to turn it on and back up THANK YOU VERY MUCH

"Mart" wrote:

Justin asked :-

But what are the chances of that and what would happen if it did get
messed up


Noel replied :-

chances of catastrophic failure in an old ME system? - 100% over time!
hardware WILL die eventually.
what would happen when (not if!) it happens? - possibly you'll get lucky
and be able to transfer your HD to a new motherboard and pull the data
off, but it's also possible that the HD will be the failure point, and
you'll lose everything permanently unless you backed it up.


Seems a fair conclusion to me - nothing really to add.

Mart


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