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Old December 29th 04, 12:27 PM
SeaSpeeder
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Default Slipstream WinMe (Custom Install CD)

Is it possible to slipstream Windows Me to create a custom install CD that is
already updated with IE 6 SP1 and other Windows Updates? You can do this with
certain versions of Office, and I've heard you can do it with Windows XP.
What about Windows Me? Does it matter if my CD is oem or retail?

Where could I learn about how to create a custom updated Windows Me CD?
Having such a CD would make reinstalling Windows easier. The biggest problem
I have with installing Windows is that it puts IE 5.5 overtop IE 6, and
sometimes Windows won't reinstall, it reinstalls with errors, or it
reinstalls with a corrupt browser and no internet access. I'm hoping a
slipstreamed CD that already has IE 6 on there will prevent these problems.

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Old December 29th 04, 12:57 PM
Mike M
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Slipstreaming normally relates to the integration of a service pack with
the original RTM distribution. The problem with what you propose,
especially in so far as IE6 is involved, is that no service pack has ever,
nor will be, issued for Win Me so what you want to do will be extremely
difficult if not impossible. Certainly various straightforward hotfixes
could be incorporated in such a CD, for example the 290700 patch for
system restore, by adding them to the folder containing the cab files but
not I believe IE6. Similarly drivers can be added. A useful tool here,
although unsupported for Win Me, is MSBatch.inf from the Win 98 Resource
Kit.

I've never felt tempted to try to make such a CD although it would clearly
be of benefit to those who feel the need to reinstall Win Me. Something I
have fortunately never felt the need to do. Incidentally I slipstreamed
XP SP1 and later XP SP2 into the original RTM XP Pro and the whole
exercise takes just a few minutes. The benefits on a clean install are
significant for XP as the dll cache is several hundred MB smaller than
when installing XP then SP1 then SP2.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



SeaSpeeder wrote:

Is it possible to slipstream Windows Me to create a custom install CD
that is already updated with IE 6 SP1 and other Windows Updates? You
can do this with certain versions of Office, and I've heard you can
do it with Windows XP. What about Windows Me? Does it matter if my CD
is oem or retail?

Where could I learn about how to create a custom updated Windows Me
CD? Having such a CD would make reinstalling Windows easier. The
biggest problem I have with installing Windows is that it puts IE 5.5
overtop IE 6, and sometimes Windows won't reinstall, it reinstalls
with errors, or it reinstalls with a corrupt browser and no internet
access. I'm hoping a slipstreamed CD that already has IE 6 on there
will prevent these problems.


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Old December 29th 04, 01:12 PM
Noel Paton
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Mike
you don't need to install SP1 before installing SP2 (which I'm sure you
realise!)

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"Mike M" wrote in message
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Slipstreaming normally relates to the integration of a service pack with
the original RTM distribution. The problem with what you propose,
especially in so far as IE6 is involved, is that no service pack has ever,
nor will be, issued for Win Me so what you want to do will be extremely
difficult if not impossible. Certainly various straightforward hotfixes
could be incorporated in such a CD, for example the 290700 patch for
system restore, by adding them to the folder containing the cab files but
not I believe IE6. Similarly drivers can be added. A useful tool here,
although unsupported for Win Me, is MSBatch.inf from the Win 98 Resource
Kit.

I've never felt tempted to try to make such a CD although it would clearly
be of benefit to those who feel the need to reinstall Win Me. Something I
have fortunately never felt the need to do. Incidentally I slipstreamed
XP SP1 and later XP SP2 into the original RTM XP Pro and the whole
exercise takes just a few minutes. The benefits on a clean install are
significant for XP as the dll cache is several hundred MB smaller than
when installing XP then SP1 then SP2.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



SeaSpeeder wrote:

Is it possible to slipstream Windows Me to create a custom install CD
that is already updated with IE 6 SP1 and other Windows Updates? You
can do this with certain versions of Office, and I've heard you can
do it with Windows XP. What about Windows Me? Does it matter if my CD
is oem or retail?

Where could I learn about how to create a custom updated Windows Me
CD? Having such a CD would make reinstalling Windows easier. The
biggest problem I have with installing Windows is that it puts IE 5.5
overtop IE 6, and sometimes Windows won't reinstall, it reinstalls
with errors, or it reinstalls with a corrupt browser and no internet
access. I'm hoping a slipstreamed CD that already has IE 6 on there
will prevent these problems.




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Old December 29th 04, 01:25 PM
Mike M
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Oh? So what was a user to do between 2002 (release of SP1) and 2004
(release of SP2)?
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Noel Paton wrote:

Mike
you don't need to install SP1 before installing SP2 (which I'm sure
you realise!)


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Old December 29th 04, 07:29 PM
Noel Paton
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That's not installing SP2, Mike - especially on a clean install!

SP2 will install directly onto an RTM Windows with no problems

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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Oh? So what was a user to do between 2002 (release of SP1) and 2004
(release of SP2)?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Noel Paton wrote:

Mike
you don't need to install SP1 before installing SP2 (which I'm sure
you realise!)




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Old December 29th 04, 07:54 PM
Mike M
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I'm sorry but I don't have a clue what you are referring to here Noel.

Between 2002 and 2004 XP SP2 was not available only SP1 hence I and
countless others slipstreamed SP1 into RTM. Doing this results in a much
smaller installed file base if then used to install XP rather than
installing SP1 over RTM, just as SP2 when slipstreamed into RTM makes for
a smaller installation than RTM plus SP1 (which is what many users will
have prior to August 2004), and then SP2.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Noel Paton wrote:

That's not installing SP2, Mike - especially on a clean install!

SP2 will install directly onto an RTM Windows with no problems


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Old December 29th 04, 08:01 PM
Mike M
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PS, BTW I'm not referring here to the SP uninstall folder(s) but rather
the total size of the various dll caches. Those created when installing
using slipstream media are far smaller than when installing from RTM and
then SP1 and then SP2 (as will have happened for anyone running XP prior
to August 2004) or if a new user were to install XP RTM today followed by
SP2.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Mike M wrote:

I'm sorry but I don't have a clue what you are referring to here Noel.

Between 2002 and 2004 XP SP2 was not available only SP1 hence I and
countless others slipstreamed SP1 into RTM. Doing this results in a
much smaller installed file base if then used to install XP rather
than installing SP1 over RTM, just as SP2 when slipstreamed into RTM
makes for a smaller installation than RTM plus SP1 (which is what
many users will have prior to August 2004), and then SP2.

That's not installing SP2, Mike - especially on a clean install!

SP2 will install directly onto an RTM Windows with no problems


  #8  
Old December 29th 04, 09:43 PM
Noel Paton
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Mike -
the final sentence in your original post reads....
"The benefits on a clean install are
significant for XP as the dll cache is several hundred MB smaller than
when installing XP then SP1 then SP2."

The implication is (at least to me) that it is necessary to install SP1
prior to installing SP2.


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Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj
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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
PS, BTW I'm not referring here to the SP uninstall folder(s) but rather
the total size of the various dll caches. Those created when installing
using slipstream media are far smaller than when installing from RTM and
then SP1 and then SP2 (as will have happened for anyone running XP prior
to August 2004) or if a new user were to install XP RTM today followed by
SP2.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Mike M wrote:

I'm sorry but I don't have a clue what you are referring to here Noel.

Between 2002 and 2004 XP SP2 was not available only SP1 hence I and
countless others slipstreamed SP1 into RTM. Doing this results in a
much smaller installed file base if then used to install XP rather
than installing SP1 over RTM, just as SP2 when slipstreamed into RTM
makes for a smaller installation than RTM plus SP1 (which is what
many users will have prior to August 2004), and then SP2.

That's not installing SP2, Mike - especially on a clean install!

SP2 will install directly onto an RTM Windows with no problems




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Old December 29th 04, 10:06 PM
Mike M
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The implication is (at least to me) that it is necessary to install
SP1 prior to installing SP2.


Noel,

Something which at no time did I say or even suggest. Read my posts
again. I was extolling the virtue of installing (clean) from a
slipstreamed XP CD and quite clearly, to me at least, stating that such an
install leads to a considerable reduction in the size of the dllcache
against, for example, that seen by those who installed XP (in say 2001)
and then SP1 (in 2002) and then SP2 (in 2004) or even those who installed
from an XP RTM CD yesterday and then installed SP2 today.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Noel Paton wrote:

Mike -
the final sentence in your original post reads....
"The benefits on a clean install are
significant for XP as the dll cache is several hundred MB smaller than
when installing XP then SP1 then SP2."

The implication is (at least to me) that it is necessary to install
SP1 prior to installing SP2.


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Old December 29th 04, 10:23 PM
Noel Paton
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All of which I agree with, Mike.

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"Mike M" wrote in message
...
The implication is (at least to me) that it is necessary to install
SP1 prior to installing SP2.


Noel,

Something which at no time did I say or even suggest. Read my posts
again. I was extolling the virtue of installing (clean) from a
slipstreamed XP CD and quite clearly, to me at least, stating that such an
install leads to a considerable reduction in the size of the dllcache
against, for example, that seen by those who installed XP (in say 2001)
and then SP1 (in 2002) and then SP2 (in 2004) or even those who installed
from an XP RTM CD yesterday and then installed SP2 today.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Noel Paton wrote:

Mike -
the final sentence in your original post reads....
"The benefits on a clean install are
significant for XP as the dll cache is several hundred MB smaller than
when installing XP then SP1 then SP2."

The implication is (at least to me) that it is necessary to install
SP1 prior to installing SP2.




 




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