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Old November 21st 05, 11:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Hello, My name is Edward Letendre. I have a question about a computer that I
am using that is running windows 98 second edition. The computer is an intel
celeron II processor running at 700 MHz and has approximately 320 megs of
ram. I usually have many applications running during the day (one or two dos
applications, as well as the windows card file application, and SQL server 7
query analyzer). With these four applications running through out the day,
my computer will get slower and slower, as if the dos applications are
sucking up the memory of the system. These are standard dos applications
that use standard dos window settings. I usuall have these applications and
the computer itself running for a day or so, as I go home at the end of the
day and I don't want to loose my data within my application.

The strange thing is that I have other computers that run windows XP home
edtion and windows 98 (also second edtion) with the same dos applications
running for the same amount of time and those machines don't slow down and or
crash.

What could be causing the problem? If I switched to windows XP for this
computer, would this help the problem. I was thinking that it could be bad
memory, but I am not sure how I would check for memory problems. What else
could I do to solve the problem?

Edward Letendre.

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Old November 22nd 05, 01:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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You will have to look at the available hardware on the XP systems to really
make a judgment if it would work putting XP on this machine. The XP PCs may
have newer MBs, faster CPUs and faster com port time.
But as I have seen difference between the two OSs. Yes it could be as you
say.
Win98 does a first come, first serve attitude to it's resources. So if a
high resource useing program is running then all the rest has to wait for a
chance at the system resources. Which one program or another seems to be slow
or jerky at times.
XP on the other hand only alots enough resource to run the program and
reserving the rest for other possible uses. It has kind of an energy
conservation attitude.
That is one of the reasons I like Win98SE as I like to play PC games and 98
will dump the entire system resources into the game to run it enjoyabilly.
XP will only alot the minimul resources required to operate the game.
And also the OS on MS's X-Box is a Win98SE base format. Because of this.


"Edward Letendre" wrote:

Hello, My name is Edward Letendre. I have a question about a computer that I
am using that is running windows 98 second edition. The computer is an intel
celeron II processor running at 700 MHz and has approximately 320 megs of
ram. I usually have many applications running during the day (one or two dos
applications, as well as the windows card file application, and SQL server 7
query analyzer). With these four applications running through out the day,
my computer will get slower and slower, as if the dos applications are
sucking up the memory of the system. These are standard dos applications
that use standard dos window settings. I usuall have these applications and
the computer itself running for a day or so, as I go home at the end of the
day and I don't want to loose my data within my application.

The strange thing is that I have other computers that run windows XP home
edtion and windows 98 (also second edtion) with the same dos applications
running for the same amount of time and those machines don't slow down and or
crash.

What could be causing the problem? If I switched to windows XP for this
computer, would this help the problem. I was thinking that it could be bad
memory, but I am not sure how I would check for memory problems. What else
could I do to solve the problem?

Edward Letendre.

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Old November 22nd 05, 02:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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That is very true...I just took another look at the system memory through a
program called Everest Home Edition and I noticed that the memory chip in
slot 1 is a 64 mb chip that is a PC100 chip while the second chip in slot 2
is a 256 mb chip that is a PC133 chip. Would the difference between the two
chips (PC100 vs PC133) make a difference in system performance. If so, I was
thinking of replacing the PC100 chip with a PC133 chip of the same memory
size, but a micron chip rather than the infineon chip that is there now. Any
advice would be of help.

Edward Letendre.


"poatt" wrote:

You will have to look at the available hardware on the XP systems to really
make a judgment if it would work putting XP on this machine. The XP PCs may
have newer MBs, faster CPUs and faster com port time.
But as I have seen difference between the two OSs. Yes it could be as you
say.
Win98 does a first come, first serve attitude to it's resources. So if a
high resource useing program is running then all the rest has to wait for a
chance at the system resources. Which one program or another seems to be slow
or jerky at times.
XP on the other hand only alots enough resource to run the program and
reserving the rest for other possible uses. It has kind of an energy
conservation attitude.
That is one of the reasons I like Win98SE as I like to play PC games and 98
will dump the entire system resources into the game to run it enjoyabilly.
XP will only alot the minimul resources required to operate the game.
And also the OS on MS's X-Box is a Win98SE base format. Because of this.


"Edward Letendre" wrote:

Hello, My name is Edward Letendre. I have a question about a computer that I
am using that is running windows 98 second edition. The computer is an intel
celeron II processor running at 700 MHz and has approximately 320 megs of
ram. I usually have many applications running during the day (one or two dos
applications, as well as the windows card file application, and SQL server 7
query analyzer). With these four applications running through out the day,
my computer will get slower and slower, as if the dos applications are
sucking up the memory of the system. These are standard dos applications
that use standard dos window settings. I usuall have these applications and
the computer itself running for a day or so, as I go home at the end of the
day and I don't want to loose my data within my application.

The strange thing is that I have other computers that run windows XP home
edtion and windows 98 (also second edtion) with the same dos applications
running for the same amount of time and those machines don't slow down and or
crash.

What could be causing the problem? If I switched to windows XP for this
computer, would this help the problem. I was thinking that it could be bad
memory, but I am not sure how I would check for memory problems. What else
could I do to solve the problem?

Edward Letendre.

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Old November 22nd 05, 05:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default computer running slow, memory issues

Memory runs at the speed of the slowest chip or in your case--the PC100. I
doubt that the two different speed sticks are responsible for the slow down
you are experiencing. Use your sysmon.exe (system monitor) to measure the
swap file in use and see if paging is responsible for the slow down. If it
is, more ram may be the answer.
--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Edward Letendre" wrote in
message ...
That is very true...I just took another look at the system memory through
a
program called Everest Home Edition and I noticed that the memory chip in
slot 1 is a 64 mb chip that is a PC100 chip while the second chip in slot
2
is a 256 mb chip that is a PC133 chip. Would the difference between the
two
chips (PC100 vs PC133) make a difference in system performance. If so, I
was
thinking of replacing the PC100 chip with a PC133 chip of the same memory
size, but a micron chip rather than the infineon chip that is there now.
Any
advice would be of help.

Edward Letendre.


"poatt" wrote:

You will have to look at the available hardware on the XP systems to
really
make a judgment if it would work putting XP on this machine. The XP PCs
may
have newer MBs, faster CPUs and faster com port time.
But as I have seen difference between the two OSs. Yes it could be as
you
say.
Win98 does a first come, first serve attitude to it's resources. So if a
high resource useing program is running then all the rest has to wait for
a
chance at the system resources. Which one program or another seems to be
slow
or jerky at times.
XP on the other hand only alots enough resource to run the program and
reserving the rest for other possible uses. It has kind of an energy
conservation attitude.
That is one of the reasons I like Win98SE as I like to play PC games and
98
will dump the entire system resources into the game to run it
enjoyabilly.
XP will only alot the minimul resources required to operate the game.
And also the OS on MS's X-Box is a Win98SE base format. Because of this.


"Edward Letendre" wrote:

Hello, My name is Edward Letendre. I have a question about a computer
that I
am using that is running windows 98 second edition. The computer is an
intel
celeron II processor running at 700 MHz and has approximately 320 megs
of
ram. I usually have many applications running during the day (one or
two dos
applications, as well as the windows card file application, and SQL
server 7
query analyzer). With these four applications running through out the
day,
my computer will get slower and slower, as if the dos applications are
sucking up the memory of the system. These are standard dos
applications
that use standard dos window settings. I usuall have these
applications and
the computer itself running for a day or so, as I go home at the end of
the
day and I don't want to loose my data within my application.

The strange thing is that I have other computers that run windows XP
home
edtion and windows 98 (also second edtion) with the same dos
applications
running for the same amount of time and those machines don't slow down
and or
crash.

What could be causing the problem? If I switched to windows XP for
this
computer, would this help the problem. I was thinking that it could be
bad
memory, but I am not sure how I would check for memory problems. What
else
could I do to solve the problem?

Edward Letendre.



 




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