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Old October 29th 05, 06:34 AM
Jonno
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Running Win98 on a PIII 450 with 64 MB RAM, I cannot see the CD drive.

This is strange for many reasons, not least of which. I installed the OS
from a CD!

The CD drive is visible to the BIOS, and works well if I boot to DOS with
the Win98 floppy.

In Windows there is a problem with the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
– “The device is either not present, not working properly or does not have
all the drivers installed (Code 10)?.

I tried updating the driver, but Windows reported that it already had the
best one. I tried deleting the whole Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE
Controller (from device manager) and rebooting, and both primary IDE and
secondary IDE controllers seemed to reinstall properly, but the problem was
still there.

To pre-empt a question, I am using the Secondary IDE controller because the
computer case is so badly designed I cannot get the CD drive on the same
cable as the hard drive.

I’d be grateful for any thoughts or advice on this one.

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Old October 29th 05, 07:59 AM
poatt
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Check to make sure the cable is seated all the way into the Drive and the MB
slot.
Is the cable not turned upside down at one end? Where is the jumper set?
It might have come loose. There should be a jumper diagram on the back of
the drive.
Post back.

"Jonno" wrote:

Running Win98 on a PIII 450 with 64 MB RAM, I cannot see the CD drive.

This is strange for many reasons, not least of which. I installed the OS
from a CD!

The CD drive is visible to the BIOS, and works well if I boot to DOS with
the Win98 floppy.

In Windows there is a problem with the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
– “The device is either not present, not working properly or does not have
all the drivers installed (Code 10)?.

I tried updating the driver, but Windows reported that it already had the
best one. I tried deleting the whole Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE
Controller (from device manager) and rebooting, and both primary IDE and
secondary IDE controllers seemed to reinstall properly, but the problem was
still there.

To pre-empt a question, I am using the Secondary IDE controller because the
computer case is so badly designed I cannot get the CD drive on the same
cable as the hard drive.

I’d be grateful for any thoughts or advice on this one.

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Old October 29th 05, 08:26 AM
Jonno
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Default Secondary IDE controller problem

Thank you for your reply poatt. However I can confirm that the cables are
properly seated and the jumper settings on the drive correct. As I said, the
drive works perfectly well at the BIOS level and in DOS. Only Windows has a
problem with it.

"poatt" wrote:


Check to make sure the cable is seated all the way into the Drive and the MB
slot.
Is the cable not turned upside down at one end? Where is the jumper set?
It might have come loose. There should be a jumper diagram on the back of
the drive.
Post back.

"Jonno" wrote:

Running Win98 on a PIII 450 with 64 MB RAM, I cannot see the CD drive.

This is strange for many reasons, not least of which. I installed the OS
from a CD!

The CD drive is visible to the BIOS, and works well if I boot to DOS with
the Win98 floppy.

In Windows there is a problem with the Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
– “The device is either not present, not working properly or does not have
all the drivers installed (Code 10)?.

I tried updating the driver, but Windows reported that it already had the
best one. I tried deleting the whole Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE
Controller (from device manager) and rebooting, and both primary IDE and
secondary IDE controllers seemed to reinstall properly, but the problem was
still there.

To pre-empt a question, I am using the Secondary IDE controller because the
computer case is so badly designed I cannot get the CD drive on the same
cable as the hard drive.

I’d be grateful for any thoughts or advice on this one.

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Old October 29th 05, 11:59 PM
PCR
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Default Secondary IDE controller problem

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q237948
Troubleshoot CD-R_W

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=218617
Troubleshoot CD-ROM or DVD-ROM

I guess, a first try would be...

(1) Boot to Safe Mode. (Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the
Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that.)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab".
(3) Open the CD-ROM branch, by clicking it's plus sign.
(4) Highlight each drive in that branch, & click "Remove".
(Safe Mode may reveal the presence of a "ghost".)
(5) Close up, & boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully Windows will find the correct drivers, & all will be well.

As cquirke once said, "Control Panel, System, Performance tab". Are you
in "compatibility" mode? Then, try his site...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/doscompat.htm

Also...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...79&Product=w98
Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks
(130179) - The Performance tab in System properties shows that one or
more of the hard disks in your computer is using MS-DOS Compatibility
mode. MS-DOS compatibility mode may be in use either for the file system
or for virtual memory. You may receive the...


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
| Running Win98 on a PIII 450 with 64 MB RAM, I cannot see the CD drive.
|
| This is strange for many reasons, not least of which. I installed the
OS
| from a CD!
|
| The CD drive is visible to the BIOS, and works well if I boot to DOS
with
| the Win98 floppy.
|
| In Windows there is a problem with the Secondary IDE controller (dual
fifo)
| – “The device is either not present, not working properly or does
not have
| all the drivers installed (Code 10)?.
|
| I tried updating the driver, but Windows reported that it already had
the
| best one. I tried deleting the whole Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master
IDE
| Controller (from device manager) and rebooting, and both primary IDE
and
| secondary IDE controllers seemed to reinstall properly, but the
problem was
| still there.
|
| To pre-empt a question, I am using the Secondary IDE controller
because the
| computer case is so badly designed I cannot get the CD drive on the
same
| cable as the hard drive.
|
| I’d be grateful for any thoughts or advice on this one.
|


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Old October 30th 05, 05:35 AM
Ron Badour
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Default Secondary IDE controller problem

When you removed the controllers, did you do so from Safe Mode? Sometimes
entries show up in Safe Mode that are not present in Normal Mode. If all
else fails, buy a longer ribbon cable.

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Jonno" wrote in message
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Running Win98 on a PIII 450 with 64 MB RAM, I cannot see the CD drive.

This is strange for many reasons, not least of which. I installed the OS
from a CD!

The CD drive is visible to the BIOS, and works well if I boot to DOS with
the Win98 floppy.

In Windows there is a problem with the Secondary IDE controller (dual
fifo)
- "The device is either not present, not working properly or does not have
all the drivers installed (Code 10)".

I tried updating the driver, but Windows reported that it already had the
best one. I tried deleting the whole Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE
Controller (from device manager) and rebooting, and both primary IDE and
secondary IDE controllers seemed to reinstall properly, but the problem
was
still there.

To pre-empt a question, I am using the Secondary IDE controller because
the
computer case is so badly designed I cannot get the CD drive on the same
cable as the hard drive.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts or advice on this one.



 




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