Unofficial Time Zones Update (Testers wanted)

I could have it search for previous BAK file(s) and rename them. Don't
*think* that's too hard to do with a BAT file. Or, I may turn it all into a
VB script. See how manic I am this week. Running out of time, s. Then
again, every reinstall....

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
One minor issue. I think that if someone runs the patch twice on the
same system they will wipe out there backup recovery file. So if
someone intends to run it twice for some reason then they should
rename the backup file. But maybe this is too obvious.

On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for,
and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and
it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express option
at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

OK, I've fixed it so there can be as many as a thousand backups. That enough
for you, g?

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I could have it search for previous BAK file(s) and rename them. Don't
*think* that's too hard to do with a BAT file. Or, I may turn it all into a
VB script. See how manic I am this week. Running out of time, s. Then
again, every reinstall....

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
One minor issue. I think that if someone runs the patch twice on the
same system they will wipe out there backup recovery file. So if
someone intends to run it twice for some reason then they should
rename the backup file. But maybe this is too obvious.

On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for,
and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a
VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and
it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express
option at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but
the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for, and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express option at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

I screwed up! I applied the 2000 patch on a 98se box by accident.

Can I just double click on the registry bak file and undo the mistake?

On Feb 20, 9:37 am, "tom" wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:





OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for, and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express option at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

I screwed up! I applied the 2000 patch on a 98se box by accident.

Can I just double click on the registry bak file and undo the mistake?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I ran the 2000 bat file, but I did not do the extra steps to switch
the time zones back and forth,
so I guess the change is not applied, copied to that second area of
the registry.

All it did was add the info to HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows
NT\Time Zones. where it will do no good, but will also do no harm. Because
it did not exist before your ran the BAT file, no backup was created. Your
original info is still intact. Simply run the correct file.

You can delete the Time Zones key from the Windows NT key if you wish -- or
not. It's up to you.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for,
and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and
it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express option
at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

I screwed up! I applied the 2000 patch on a 98se box by accident.

Can I just double click on the registry bak file and undo the mistake?

As noted in my other reply, the info is useless to Win98, and harmless. Even
if you *did* change the TZ to something different and then back, it didn't
change anything. You simply have to use the correct file, then perform the
last steps.

Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some errors in the
previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates to account for this and
to add some features, but I won't be done until late tonight or tomorrow AM,
Pacific time.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"tom" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 20, 9:37 am, "tom" wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:





OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for,
and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a
VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and
it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express
option at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but
the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

I screwed up! I applied the 2000 patch on a 98se box by accident.

Can I just double click on the registry bak file and undo the mistake?-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I ran the 2000 bat file, but I did not do the extra steps to switch
the time zones back and forth,
so I guess the change is not applied, copied to that second area of
the registry.

Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some errors in the
previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates to account for this and
to add some features, but I won't be done until late tonight or tomorrow AM,
Pacific time.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems, 95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides
updates for, and the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into
a VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:
http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express option
at Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but
the logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

On Feb 20, 10:36 am, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
As noted in my other reply, the info is useless to Win98, and harmless. Even
if you *did* change the TZ to something different and then back, it didn't
change anything. You simply have to use the correct file, then perform the
last steps.

Note:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836corrects some errors in the
previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates to account for this and
to add some features, but I won't be done until late tonight or tomorrow AM,
Pacific time.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"tom" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Feb 20, 9:37 am, "tom" wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:11 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs, web
page
proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy Windows
systems,
95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides updates for,
and
the info is already in Vista.)

The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one they're
willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
another
several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load it into a
VPC.

Might as well start at the beginning:http://www.grystmill.com

Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it, and
it
isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express
option at
Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me, but
the
logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making IE7 a
Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it. Dumb,
dumb, dumb!

PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
others have proven them out.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

I screwed up! I applied the 2000 patch on a 98se box by accident.

Can I just double click on the registry bak file and undo the mistake?-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I ran the 2000 bat file, but I did not do the extra steps to switch
the time zones back and forth,
so I guess the change is not applied, copied to that second area of
the registry.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks. I had poked around with regedit before I saw your message,
and I figured that must be the case. Thanks for confirming it.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Good idea, but in 2K, the BAT file automatically closes on Exit, so it
will
| have to be....
|
| ECHO Press any key to Exit.
|
| And I think I'll just add the last three steps to the BAT Echoes, make
the
| ZIP self-executing, since lots of folks will need to actually change
their
| time zone... Everyone outside the US that is affected, basically. Like
| Mexico.
|
| Have to relearn my DOS!!!

OK. Cquirke or Blanton would be great for the .bat. Also, someone else
has been posting little DOS gems-- maybe it was Zabcar or Lipman or
Ingeborg, even. I do trust you do have the right values for the time
zones, as you said you exported them from an XP machine that did get
them from the actual, finalized MS patch. OK, then.

| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | Terhune hasn't bothered to test, since others have done the deed
| | satisfactorily. I've updated the instruction files.
|
| Let me go see...
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm
| Yes, the Readme.txt is updated...
| ......Quote..........
| Instructions for installation:
| 1. Double-click TZ_UP.bat
| 2. Click OK when asked if you want to merge the Registry data.
| 3. Click OK when told that Merge was successful.
| 4. Close the DOS Prompt window if necessary.
| 5. Double-click the WIndows clock in your System Tray, or
| open Time/Date applet from Control Panel.
| 6. Change the Time Zone listed to any other Time Zone, click Apply.
| 7. Change the Time Zone to the one now most appropriate to your
locale.
| (Normally, this will be the same as the one it was set to when
you
| opened
| the applet, but in some cases the Time Zone for your locale
will
| have changed name.)
| ......EOQ............
|
| I might also add it to the bottom of TZ_UP.bat...
|
| ECHO %windir% TZ_BAK.REG is a backup of the old values.
| ECHO
| ECHO Remember to D-Clk the clock & "Apply", after
| ECHO changing the time zone away & back to your own.
|
| | What I need to do is make certain that MS didn't actually change
any
| | of the actual data in the keys with the latest patch. I will also
| | shell out the $50 necessary to make this thing self-executing.
|
| Can't you do that with WinZip? (I never have, but do believe the
ability
| is there.)
|
| ONE THING: What does this mean...?...
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928388
| 2007 time zone update for Microsoft Windows operating systems
| .....Quote........
| Important The update that is described in this Microsoft Knowledge
Base
| article has been replaced by the update that is described in
Microsoft
| Knowledge Base article 931836.
| .....EOQ..........
|
| HOWEVER, IF you have exported irradiated, finalized XP keys &
| decontaminated them-- I g'g'guess all is well. I mean the values
must be
| fine, & hopefully they all will apply to Win9x.
|
| | --
| |
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | John John wrote:
| | | PCR wrote:
| | | Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| | | | I'll update what I've said thus far by saying that I don't
know
| | | | for sure that those last instructions are necessary to NT/2K
| | | | *OR* 9x systems.
| | |
| | | Neither do I, but, as John John said... If Time/Date
Properties
| | | were used to advance the date, then clicking OK to that filled
| | | the other Registry key...
| | |
| |
|
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
| | |
| | | I'm thinking, if DOS was used, then...
| | |
| | | (a) Something like NisTime could have done it.
| | | (b) What was the prior EST date?
| | | Whatever... likely it was passed too!
| | |
| | | I did a fresh, clean install of Windows 98SE to test this and I
can
| | | confirm that the time changes will NOT happen unless the
contents
| | | of the
| | |
| |
|
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation
| | ]
| | | are refreshed to reflect the changes made in the
| | |
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time
| | | Zones] keys.
| | |
| | | I did regsnaps of the key in question, applied Gary's fix and
| | | rebooted. To do the test I rebooted and adjusted the time and
| | | date in the BIOS. After rebooting, the time did not change at
| | | the new
| | | DST ordered date and time without doing additional steps to
have
| | | Windows update the information in the registry.
| |
| | OK. I was thinking, even if BIOS was used to advance the date,
there
| | may have been values in this key (the old values) that STILL
would
| | be passed & trigger the time change when Windows started. I see
| | somehow that did not happen, but I am loath to do the
calculations
| | why, even if I could remember the old dates. Of course, left to
| | their own workings & a normal click of the clock, they would
trigger
| | things at the wrong date anyhow. SO...
| |
| | I am well satisfied it IS NECESSARY to get the fit/proper values
in
| | there. I see Terhune still will test it himself. OK, then.
| |
| | | To have Windows
| | | reload the key I simply clicked on the Toolbar clock "Adjust
| | | Date/Time" and just clicked once on the up/down ↑↓ time
adjust
| | | arrow, just one simple click to get the applet to activate and
| | | offer the "Apply" option. Clicking on "Apply" forced Windows
to
| | | reread and load the correct information in the key. Only after
| | | doing this step did the time advance as expected at the right
date
| | | and time.
| |
| | OK. That's good to know that any click on "apply" of that
requestor
| | would cause the whole tab to recalculate & save its data, whether
a
| | particular box was changed or not. OK, thanks.
| |
| | | Clicking the "Apply" button in the Date/Time applet caused
Windows
| | | to update 2 values in the CurrentControlSet key:
| | |
| | | ----------------------------------
| | | Values modified:2
| | | ----------------------------------
| | |
| |
|
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInfo rmation\StandardStart:
| | | 00 00 0A 00 00 00 05 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | |
| |
|
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInfo rmation\StandardStart:
| | | 00 00 0B 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | |
| |
|
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInfo rmation\DaylightStart:
| | | 00 00 04 00 00 00 01 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | |
| |
|
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInfo rmation\DaylightStart:
| | | 00 00 03 00 00 00 02 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | |
| | | ----------------------------------
| | | Total changes:2
| | | ----------------------------------
| | |
| | |
| | | John
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | Should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|
|
|

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| Note: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=931836 corrects some errors
in the
| previous patches. I've nearly finished the updates to account for this
and
| to add some features, but I won't be done until late tonight or
tomorrow AM,
| Pacific time.

Ah! Good! I hope that's their last update, though. So...

You will run this update on an XP machine, & then export the Registry
key? That's how you do it, maybe reverting some of the Registry values
too (such as "Eastern Standard Time" back to just "Eastern"? I guess
that does it, then. Very good.

| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| OK, I think it's mostly finished. All I need are a few guinea pigs,
web
| page proofers, etc. The files I am offering work for ALL legacy
Windows
| systems, 95 through 2000 (XP and 2003 are the only ones MS provides
| updates for, and the info is already in Vista.)
|
| The only system I haven't tested yet is NT4. If anyone has one
they're
| willing to test it on, I'd sure appreciate it. Otherwise, it will be
| another several days before I can dig out my copy of that and load
it into
| a VPC.
|
| Might as well start at the beginning:
| http://www.grystmill.com
|
| Once I'm satisfied, I'll be broadcasting the news to all MS public
| newsgroups. Heck, I bet even most XP users don't know they need it,
and it
| isn't installed by Automatic Updates or suggested by using Express
option
| at Windows Updates. Only the Custom option. Seems real stupid to me,
but
| the logic MS uses to handle Updates often escapes me. Like making
IE7 a
| Recommended Update, but then having Automatic Updates install it.
Dumb,
| dumb, dumb!
|
| PLEASE!! If you're not reasonably adept at using Windows, backing up
| Registries, restoring same, etc., DON'T try these Unofficial Updates
until
| others have proven them out.
|
| --
|
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
|
|
|
|
|