Microsoft has removed 500+ groups, including 21 Windows-98 groups

I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.

Those 21 groups a

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microsoft.public.il.hebrew.win98
microsoft.public.jp.win98
microsoft.public.kr.windows98.qna
microsoft.public.nl.windows98

microsoft.public.win98.comm.dun
microsoft.public.win98.comm.modem
microsoft.public.win98.display.general
microsoft.public.win98.display.multi_monitor
microsoft.public.win98.fat32
microsoft.public.win98.internet.netmeeting
microsoft.public.win98.msinfo32
microsoft.public.win98.multimedia
microsoft.public.win98.multimedia.directx5
microsoft.public.win98.power_mgmt
microsoft.public.win98.pptp
microsoft.public.win98.pws_4
microsoft.public.win98.scanreg
microsoft.public.win98.setup.win31
microsoft.public.win98.sys_file_check
microsoft.public.win98.taskscheduler
microsoft.public.win98.webtv
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I belive that at this point, if you use microsoft's server (HTTP or
NNTP) to read/write to those groups, that as of this point you can no
longer do so. Those groups are still being propagated by the wider
usenet community as if nothing happened. This may change if a certain
dick-wad issues control messages that are obeyed by independent server
operators (it's not clear that they will).

I can post the entire list if requested. And note - as of this point,
Microsoft has still not created any Windows-7 usenet group on it's
server...

On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.

Those 21 groups a

---------------------
microsoft.public.il.hebrew.win98
microsoft.public.jp.win98
microsoft.public.kr.windows98.qna
microsoft.public.nl.windows98

microsoft.public.win98.comm.dun
microsoft.public.win98.comm.modem
microsoft.public.win98.display.general
microsoft.public.win98.display.multi_monitor
microsoft.public.win98.fat32
microsoft.public.win98.internet.netmeeting
microsoft.public.win98.msinfo32
microsoft.public.win98.multimedia
microsoft.public.win98.multimedia.directx5
microsoft.public.win98.power_mgmt
microsoft.public.win98.pptp
microsoft.public.win98.pws_4
microsoft.public.win98.scanreg
microsoft.public.win98.setup.win31
microsoft.public.win98.sys_file_check
microsoft.public.win98.taskscheduler
microsoft.public.win98.webtv
----------------------

I belive that at this point, if you use microsoft's server (HTTP or
NNTP) to read/write to those groups, that as of this point you can no
longer do so. Those groups are still being propagated by the wider
usenet community as if nothing happened. This may change if a certain
dick-wad issues control messages that are obeyed by independent server
operators (it's not clear that they will).

I can post the entire list if requested. And note - as of this point,
Microsoft has still not created any Windows-7 usenet group on it's
server...

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally]
and other communities via direct access.

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In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.
[complete list repost]
Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a
feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups?

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally]
and other communities via direct access.

No, because they can't control them; they've never really felt at home
with usenet, one gets the impression from some people. (This may not
actually be the case.) Nothing to stop anyone else setting them up -
I'll just look, for the servers I use:

alt.windows7.general
it.comp.os.win.windows7
microsoft.public.it.windows7 (sounds suspiciously like ...!)

and probably some others (I didn't check for win.7, windows.7, win7,
win-7 ...)
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May 1999.)

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.
[complete list repost]
Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a
feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups?

Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a
LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was
posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to
microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group
just last week.

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet.

AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly
bear it out.

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

On 12/11/2009 08:58 AM, Tim Slattery wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.
[complete list repost]
Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a
feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups?

Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a
LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was
posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to
microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group
just last week.

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet.

AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly
bear it out.


Once again you are correct and what I posted was too limiting and too
direct.
As you indicate, I haven't seen a direct statement [press release or
otherwise] *from Microsoft* regarding Win7 Usenet groups; relying more
upon prior activities that the groups were generally created during beta
activities previously, or directly after RTM, AND I never received any
notice from Microsoft regarding Support offered via Usenet accessible
*public* groups. The secondary hearsay "from those in the know" seems to
indicate there will be none, or at least English versions.
Having just refreshed the list, I see only 14 groups supposedly left in
..win98, and no win7 or windows7

Microsoft DID create Win7 groups in its direct access communities
[TechNet, others].

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

I doubt this group will close for a while because it still seems to get a
fair amount of posts.

"Tim Slattery" wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

In message , MEB
writes:
On 12/10/2009 08:28 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.
[complete list repost]
Out of interest, does anyone (obviously outside the MS server) have a
feel for what the traffic level was on these 'groups?

Not much of one. Many of them are for quite obsolete products, and a
LOT of them were non-English language groups. The entire list was
posted to news.admin.misc. I was subscribed to
microsoft.public.win98.fat32, there were a few posts in that group
just last week.

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet.

AFAIK, they haven't actually said that, but their actions certainly
bear it out.

--
Tim Slattery

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
.

"MEB" wrote in message
...

Microsoft has no intention of opening its Win7 or later OSs and
applications to Usenet. It does supply forums [as these were originally]
and other communities via direct access.

Who cares, Usenet News group alt.windows7.general is up and running with
"Usenetters" giving valued advice (including some MVP)

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:28:38 -0500, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed:

I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.

If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is
consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Franc Zabkar wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.

If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is
consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO.

There are 22 Win98-specific newsgroups on the MS newsserver, 14 of them are
English-language newsgroups. There were 43 of them on 14 Feb-07; 32 of them
were English-language newsgroups.

Not too shabby for an OS that hasn't been supported since July 2006.

Franc Zabkar wrote:
I'm not exactly sure when this happened, but Microsoft has removed
approx. 535 groups from it's server. 21 of those pertain to windows-98.

If the end result is that all the English language Win98 traffic is
consolidated into one group, then this will be a good thing, IMO.

There are 22 Win98-specific newsgroups on the MS newsserver, 14 of them are
English-language newsgroups. There were 43 of them on 14 Feb-07; 32 of them
were English-language newsgroups.

Not too shabby for an OS that hasn't been supported since July 2006.