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Old May 22nd 04, 08:35 PM
Lago Jardin
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared

Hi

Please see below the copy of my email to Seagate and their reply for
background to my problem.

Today a large new folder (with many large files and sub folders) has just
appeared on my new D: drive. Properties reports it as 83 GIG in size. My
computer still sees most of the drive as free, so its not really there.
Windows ME wont let me delete it or any files/sub folders in it as it says
they are not there.

I have a feeling that it might be a FAT problem? Are there not 2 copies of
FAT for each drive which are compared? I think I remember seeing this after
using my EBD and running scandisk in DOS a long while ago. Problem is i cant
scandisk (please see below). I cant use EBD because my BIOS does not see
the large drive. I am virus free and spy/ad free. All other folders on the
new and old C: drive are fine....for the moment!!

Is there any software that will scandisk my new drive? I dont want to lose
my new folders.

Thanks

Nigel

Copy of my email and Seagate's reply:


Hi I have BIOS Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG. It would not detect my
new 120 GIG drive correctly only seeing about 16 GIG although it does see my
60GIG C: drive.
I have installed my new 120gig seagate drive as secondary master using
Seagate Disk Wizard and switching detect this drive to NONE in the BIOS. The
drive is fine but i need to defrag it. Defrag tells me to run scandisk first
because of some errors. When I do this scan disk says i do not have enough
memory to run it. My memory is

Total Physical Memory 511.41 MB
Available Physical Memory 258.09 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.62 GB
Page File Space 1.50 GB

I think that this should be plenty. Scandisk says to close some running
programs so I close everything on taskbar and close everything using
ctrl+ALt+Del except Explorer & Systray. How can i defrag? Can I run scandisk
using EBD in DOS or wont the new drive be detected? I can scandisk and
defrag the C: drive OK.

Thanks

Nigel


Nigel,

This is a Microsoft issue. Windows ME does not support defrag and scandisk
on large drives.

This Microsoft article gives more information
http://support.microsoft.com/default...54&Product=w98


Terry H.
Seagate Technical Support






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Old May 22nd 04, 08:53 PM
Noel Paton
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared

Go back to Seagate - ME DOES support scandisk/defrag on drives up to 136GB,
if the disk is properly formatted.

run
FDSIK /STATUS
from a command prompt - see what it tells you


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Hi

Please see below the copy of my email to Seagate and their reply for
background to my problem.

Today a large new folder (with many large files and sub folders) has just
appeared on my new D: drive. Properties reports it as 83 GIG in size. My
computer still sees most of the drive as free, so its not really there.
Windows ME wont let me delete it or any files/sub folders in it as it says
they are not there.

I have a feeling that it might be a FAT problem? Are there not 2 copies of
FAT for each drive which are compared? I think I remember seeing this

after
using my EBD and running scandisk in DOS a long while ago. Problem is i

cant
scandisk (please see below). I cant use EBD because my BIOS does not see
the large drive. I am virus free and spy/ad free. All other folders on

the
new and old C: drive are fine....for the moment!!

Is there any software that will scandisk my new drive? I dont want to lose
my new folders.

Thanks

Nigel

Copy of my email and Seagate's reply:


Hi I have BIOS Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG. It would not detect my
new 120 GIG drive correctly only seeing about 16 GIG although it does see

my
60GIG C: drive.
I have installed my new 120gig seagate drive as secondary master using
Seagate Disk Wizard and switching detect this drive to NONE in the BIOS.

The
drive is fine but i need to defrag it. Defrag tells me to run scandisk

first
because of some errors. When I do this scan disk says i do not have enough
memory to run it. My memory is

Total Physical Memory 511.41 MB
Available Physical Memory 258.09 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.62 GB
Page File Space 1.50 GB

I think that this should be plenty. Scandisk says to close some running
programs so I close everything on taskbar and close everything using
ctrl+ALt+Del except Explorer & Systray. How can i defrag? Can I run

scandisk
using EBD in DOS or wont the new drive be detected? I can scandisk and
defrag the C: drive OK.

Thanks

Nigel


Nigel,

This is a Microsoft issue. Windows ME does not support defrag and

scandisk
on large drives.

This Microsoft article gives more information

http://support.microsoft.com/default...54&Product=w98


Terry H.
Seagate Technical Support






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  #3  
Old May 23rd 04, 09:34 AM
Rick T
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared

Sounds like a possible DiskWizard issue.

*However*

Can't you find a more recent BIOS flash for your motherboard? That way
you wouldn't have to bother with DW at all.


Rick



Lago Jardin wrote:
Hi

Please see below the copy of my email to Seagate and their reply for
background to my problem.

Today a large new folder (with many large files and sub folders) has just
appeared on my new D: drive. Properties reports it as 83 GIG in size. My
computer still sees most of the drive as free, so its not really there.
Windows ME wont let me delete it or any files/sub folders in it as it says
they are not there.

I have a feeling that it might be a FAT problem? Are there not 2 copies of
FAT for each drive which are compared? I think I remember seeing this after
using my EBD and running scandisk in DOS a long while ago. Problem is i cant
scandisk (please see below). I cant use EBD because my BIOS does not see
the large drive. I am virus free and spy/ad free. All other folders on the
new and old C: drive are fine....for the moment!!

Is there any software that will scandisk my new drive? I dont want to lose
my new folders.

Thanks

Nigel

Copy of my email and Seagate's reply:


Hi I have BIOS Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG. It would not detect my
new 120 GIG drive correctly only seeing about 16 GIG although it does see my
60GIG C: drive.
I have installed my new 120gig seagate drive as secondary master using
Seagate Disk Wizard and switching detect this drive to NONE in the BIOS. The
drive is fine but i need to defrag it. Defrag tells me to run scandisk first
because of some errors. When I do this scan disk says i do not have enough
memory to run it. My memory is

Total Physical Memory 511.41 MB
Available Physical Memory 258.09 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.62 GB
Page File Space 1.50 GB

I think that this should be plenty. Scandisk says to close some running
programs so I close everything on taskbar and close everything using
ctrl+ALt+Del except Explorer & Systray. How can i defrag? Can I run scandisk
using EBD in DOS or wont the new drive be detected? I can scandisk and
defrag the C: drive OK.

Thanks

Nigel


Nigel,

This is a Microsoft issue. Windows ME does not support defrag and scandisk
on large drives.

This Microsoft article gives more information
http://support.microsoft.com/default...54&Product=w98


Terry H.
Seagate Technical Support






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  #4  
Old May 23rd 04, 04:29 PM
Lago Jardin
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash ??

Hi

Thanks for the ideas guys. I don't think I'm going to escape from flashing
my BIOS. Up to now I've tended to shy away from doing it for obvious
reasons. My motherboard book gives some help on the process. Id appreciate
some pretty detailed help tho pls as its a pretty drastic step!! My BIOS
(info provided by Sandra Software) is as follows:

SiSoftware Sandra

General Information
Manufacturer : Award Software International, Inc.
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 08/21/2001
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.20
ID : FC 01 00
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes

Performance Tips
Tip 201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

OK!! What do I do know? Do I need any Chipset info? Can I get a free flash
(so as to speak)? I think I need to d/l the upgrade and copy on to a second
floppy but how will I know it will support my 120 GIG? I then use my EBD and
in DOS install it. My book says I need to use AWD8XX.EXE (where 8XX is the
version number) ????

Id really appreciate any help and any links please....otherwise I just might
not be around for sometime.LOL

Thanks

Nigel




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Old May 23rd 04, 06:20 PM
Rick T
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash??

Lago Jardin wrote:

Hi

Thanks for the ideas guys. I don't think I'm going to escape from flashing
my BIOS. Up to now I've tended to shy away from doing it for obvious
reasons.


Actually these days it's a normal part of system maintenance.

My motherboard book gives some help on the process. Id appreciate
some pretty detailed help tho pls as its a pretty drastic step!!


Steps differ (a little) from MB to MB. Generally, though, you download
the latest BIOS and the flashing program and write them to a diskette.
Then you boot to the diskette and run the flash program. Then you go
back and try to remember/figure out what all the settings are since the
new flash is default. (OK, that's what *I* usually do... you can save
yourself half an hour by writing down any custom settings *before* you
flash the BIOS).

If the power goes out while you're in the middle of the actual
bios-flashing (which takes about 10 seconds), or the dog pulls the plug
out or something, you get to buy a new BIOS chip.

Other than that little bit of breath-holding, it's easy.

Read the instructions bundled with the upgrade carefully, then read them
again a few times, to make sure.



Rick



My BIOS
(info provided by Sandra Software) is as follows:

SiSoftware Sandra

General Information
Manufacturer : Award Software International, Inc.
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 08/21/2001
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.20
ID : FC 01 00
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes

Performance Tips
Tip 201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

OK!! What do I do know? Do I need any Chipset info? Can I get a free flash
(so as to speak)? I think I need to d/l the upgrade and copy on to a second
floppy but how will I know it will support my 120 GIG? I then use my EBD and
in DOS install it. My book says I need to use AWD8XX.EXE (where 8XX is the
version number) ????

Id really appreciate any help and any links please....otherwise I just might
not be around for sometime.LOL

Thanks

Nigel




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  #6  
Old May 23rd 04, 06:29 PM
Noel Paton
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash ??

One point Rick missed - make sure that you get the BIOS from the same source
as you got the motherboard:-
If you bought the motherboard as a separate item, get the bios from the
motherboard manufacturer
If you bought it as part of a system - get the BIOS from the System
manufacturer (or at least check on their website where to get it from).

What can appear to be identical motherboards can be very different once
OEM's get hold of them!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp
"Lago Jardin" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for the ideas guys. I don't think I'm going to escape from flashing
my BIOS. Up to now I've tended to shy away from doing it for obvious
reasons. My motherboard book gives some help on the process. Id appreciate
some pretty detailed help tho pls as its a pretty drastic step!! My BIOS
(info provided by Sandra Software) is as follows:

SiSoftware Sandra

General Information
Manufacturer : Award Software International, Inc.
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 08/21/2001
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.20
ID : FC 01 00
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)

General Capabilities
Can be Updated/Flashed : Yes

Performance Tips
Tip 201 : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

OK!! What do I do know? Do I need any Chipset info? Can I get a free flash
(so as to speak)? I think I need to d/l the upgrade and copy on to a

second
floppy but how will I know it will support my 120 GIG? I then use my EBD

and
in DOS install it. My book says I need to use AWD8XX.EXE (where 8XX is the
version number) ????

Id really appreciate any help and any links please....otherwise I just

might
not be around for sometime.LOL

Thanks

Nigel




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  #7  
Old May 23rd 04, 07:46 PM
Rick T
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash??

Noel Paton wrote:

One point Rick missed - make sure that you get the BIOS from the same source
as you got the motherboard:-
If you bought the motherboard as a separate item, get the bios from the
motherboard manufacturer
If you bought it as part of a system - get the BIOS from the System
manufacturer (or at least check on their website where to get it from).

What can appear to be identical motherboards can be very different once
OEM's get hold of them!


Coffee ain't enough today, thanks Mike.


Rick
on the other hand I can actually move my arm this week so its a fair trade.
  #8  
Old May 23rd 04, 07:54 PM
Noel Paton
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash ??

Hmmpf!

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"Rick T" wrote in message
...
Noel Paton wrote:

One point Rick missed - make sure that you get the BIOS from the same

source
as you got the motherboard:-
If you bought the motherboard as a separate item, get the bios from the
motherboard manufacturer
If you bought it as part of a system - get the BIOS from the System
manufacturer (or at least check on their website where to get it from).

What can appear to be identical motherboards can be very different once
OEM's get hold of them!


Coffee ain't enough today, thanks Mike.


Rick
on the other hand I can actually move my arm this week so its a fair

trade.


  #9  
Old May 23rd 04, 08:20 PM
Rick T
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared: BIOS flash??

Noel Paton wrote:

Hmmpf!

Ack!

sigh


Rick
had to be on the other side of town at
Ohgodwhatbloodytimeisitthesunisntevenup:30 AM... and ditto tomorrow.
  #10  
Old May 26th 04, 02:57 PM
Lago Jardin
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Default New 120 GIG Hard Drive: Garbled Folder appeared

Hi Guys

Well I did it. I flashed the BIOS with the newest upgrade from my Mercury's
motherboard site for Award BIOS v 6.00 and I'm still here!!!
Unfortunately, it now sees 36 GIG of the 120 GIG, more than before but not
what I need. I think I'm going to have to buy a BIOS flash upgrade from
esupport.com. They guarantee it to work on large drives up to 137 GIG in ME
with my particular motherboard. I cant really find any free upgrades that I
can be sure that will work.

Thanks for all the suggestions

Nigel


"Lago Jardin" wrote in message
...
Hi

Please see below the copy of my email to Seagate and their reply for
background to my problem.

Today a large new folder (with many large files and sub folders) has just
appeared on my new D: drive. Properties reports it as 83 GIG in size. My
computer still sees most of the drive as free, so its not really there.
Windows ME wont let me delete it or any files/sub folders in it as it says
they are not there.

I have a feeling that it might be a FAT problem? Are there not 2 copies of
FAT for each drive which are compared? I think I remember seeing this

after
using my EBD and running scandisk in DOS a long while ago. Problem is i

cant
scandisk (please see below). I cant use EBD because my BIOS does not see
the large drive. I am virus free and spy/ad free. All other folders on

the
new and old C: drive are fine....for the moment!!

Is there any software that will scandisk my new drive? I dont want to lose
my new folders.

Thanks

Nigel

Copy of my email and Seagate's reply:


Hi I have BIOS Version Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG. It would not detect my
new 120 GIG drive correctly only seeing about 16 GIG although it does see

my
60GIG C: drive.
I have installed my new 120gig seagate drive as secondary master using
Seagate Disk Wizard and switching detect this drive to NONE in the BIOS.

The
drive is fine but i need to defrag it. Defrag tells me to run scandisk

first
because of some errors. When I do this scan disk says i do not have enough
memory to run it. My memory is

Total Physical Memory 511.41 MB
Available Physical Memory 258.09 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.62 GB
Page File Space 1.50 GB

I think that this should be plenty. Scandisk says to close some running
programs so I close everything on taskbar and close everything using
ctrl+ALt+Del except Explorer & Systray. How can i defrag? Can I run

scandisk
using EBD in DOS or wont the new drive be detected? I can scandisk and
defrag the C: drive OK.

Thanks

Nigel


Nigel,

This is a Microsoft issue. Windows ME does not support defrag and

scandisk
on large drives.

This Microsoft article gives more information

http://support.microsoft.com/default...54&Product=w98


Terry H.
Seagate Technical Support






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