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Angus Rodgers wrote in
:

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:54:15 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

I forgot about this when replying, but today I went into an
unused part of the house (last time there several weeks
ago) and found a female cat with 2 one- or two-day-old (HOW
do you spell that? WHERE do the dashes go?) kittens. I have
NO idea how she got in. So now I have four cats, at least
for a while. (I also wonder what happened to the rest [5-6
litter is normal AFAIK], etc. And I'll NEVER find out ANY
of that.)

It's impossible to say this online without it sounding
sarcastic or something, but that's really touching.

Yes it is, and since I am an only child and my family was really
****ed, and because I love animals, etc etc etc, it was really
kind of heavy, I thought about it all night and looked up care
of newborn kittens etc... Alas... This morning - they're gone.
Saw the mother walking around the street. Searched the whole
place - no sign of the kittens. She did eat the food before
leaving. Anybody's guess where the kittens are, but I suspect in
a better world.

I know, it's a bit depressing now.



--
The lonely child plays with eternity, while a gang of children
plays with time.
Karel Capek

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

In message ,
Angus Rodgers writes:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 06:29:36 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

You are the old man who lives in a shack with his cat
and in reality runs the universe. Do people come to sing
to your cat occasionally? []

I have NO idea how to respond to that.

"Life! Don't talk to me about life!" That ought to do it.
:-)

Glad to find a fellow DNA fan! (Are you in UK?)

Thanatoid*, it's a reference to a later series of "The
Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", a radio series (and
book, LP, towels, and TV series) by Douglas Adams.

I /NEVER/ understood what people saw in it. I found it super-
boring. As I do the Simpsons. (Yes, I know they are completely
different. Or maybe not - I base my opinion on less than one
entire episode of each.)

It would
take far too long to explain! But if you can get hold of
the radio series, I think you'd enjoy it.

See above.

* The capital is because of the sentence start, not
ignorance of your preference.

Appreciated but the sentence start is irrelevant. NEVER
capitalized.

--
The lonely child plays with eternity, while a gang of children
plays with time.
Karel Capek

On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 20:52:03 -0500, "PCR"
wrote:

How many MHz? Or have you crossed over to GHz?

I actually don't know, exactly. My hardware notes date from
2003, and I messed around with underclocking:

[=====
AMD Athlon XP PR1700+ OEM Thoroughbred B core JIUHB DUT3C

Athlon XP Processor Low-end
Core Thoroughbred-B
CPU Model 8
Manufacturing Process 130 nm
Approximate Transistor Count 37.6 million
Approximate Die Size 84 sq. mm
Performance Rating 1700+
Working frequency 1467 MHz
Package Type OPGA
Operating Voltage 1.6 V
Max Die Temperature 90° C
L1 Cache Size 128 KB
L2 Cache Size 256 KB
Multiplier 11x
FSB Frequency 266 MHz
Stepping Code JIUHB
Manufacture Year 2003
Manufacture Week 11
Production Batch M
Batch Production Number 0777

Tue 1 July 2003

I don't know why the BIOS initially set the CPU clock
multiplier to 10.5x, but I've set it to the correct value
of 11x, with no obvious ill-effects. Passed Torture Test
(about nine and a half hours).

Wed 9 July 2003

I've set the CPU multiple to 7.5x, so the CPU frequency is
now 1GHz exactly.

Sun 11 Jan 2004

CPU multiplier set to 9x, so that CPU frequency is now
1.2GHz. (Was 7.5x, 1.0GHz.)

Tue 13 Jan 2004

I have [...] been wondering about the fact that I have been
underclocking the CPU for so long.
=====]

That's the last note I seem to have, but I could have sworn
I saw sense, and went back to 11x - perhaps on that date?

Hmmm ...

[=====
[wcpuid]

Downloaded from http://www.h-oda.com/.
(It can also be got from e.g. http://www.majorgeeks.com/.)
=====]

I haven't used this during the present installation. (I got
pretty tired of computer type stuff this time around - just
wanted the damn thing to work, didn't fiddle about much.)

Let's unpack it, and run it, and see:

[ WCPUID Version 3.1a (c) 1996-2002 By H.Oda! ]

Processor #1 : AMD Athlon XP (Model 8) / 2B10129E
Platform : Socket A (Socket 462)
Vendor String : AuthenticAMD
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (7)
Model : 8 (8)
Stepping ID : 1 (1)
Brand : ----
APIC : ----
HT Log.CPU Cnt : ----
Name String : AMD Athlon(TM) XP 1700+

Internal Clock : 1466.72 MHz
System Bus : 266.68 MHz DDR
System Clock : 133.34 MHz
Multiplier : 11.0

L1 I-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 64K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 256K Byte
L2 Speed : 1466.72 MHz (Full)

MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Supported
3DNow! Unit : Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Supported

Host Bridge : 1106:3189.00 [VIA Apollo KT400]
South Bridge : 1106:3177.00 [VIA VT8233A]
VGA Device : 121A:0005.01 [3dfx Voodoo3]
Memory Size : 768M Byte
Memory Clock : ----

OS Version : Windows 98 Version 4.10.2222 B
-------------- : -----------------------------------
StdFunc 0 : 00000001 68747541 444D4163 69746E65
StdFunc 1 : 00000681 00000000 00000000 0383FBFF
ExtFunc 0 : 80000008 68747541 444D4163 69746E65
ExtFunc 1 : 00000781 00000000 00000000 C1C3FBFF
ExtFunc 2 : 20444D41 6C687441 54286E6F 5820294D
ExtFunc 3 : 37312050 002B3030 00000000 00000000
ExtFunc 4 : 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ExtFunc 5 : 0408FF08 FF20FF10 40020140 40020140
ExtFunc 6 : 00000000 41004100 01008140 00000000
ExtFunc 7 : 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001
ExtFunc 8 : 00002022 00000000 00000000 00000000
C0010015h : 00000000 00031008 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010016h : 00000000 00000000 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010017h : 00000000 00000000 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010018h : 00000000 F8000018 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010019h : 0000000F FC000800 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C001001Ah : 00000000 30000000 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C001001Bh : 00000000 20031223 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010111h : 00000000 000A0000 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010112h : 00000000 00000000 E4892CC8 E401EE64
C0010113h : 0000000F FFFE0001 E4892CC8 E401EE64

##--- Date 02/28/2010, Time 07:19:31

No doubt that means a lot to somebody!

The ancient graphics card might need a bit of explanation.

I bought something else more up to date, but it didn't work,
and I never got around to replacing it (or getting my money
back). I was just happy that this old 3dfx Voodoo 3 worked
well enough for my needs. As I said, I was just fed up with
"computer type stuff". (But I must admit that this last year
or so, I have been letting things slide to a quite ridiculous
extent. I'm trying to force myself to start thinking again.)

--
Angus Rodgers

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:25:43 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

I'd say
for anything really important, at least two copies (and
regularly checked); there's also the matter of not using
max. write speed

DUUUUH.

Oh dear! Don't hit me. I have no idea what is a good speed.

I've been using a Plextor drive, with Nero, and burning at
24x, using discs whose rated speeds range from 40x to 52x
(but I see I also did some at 32x, years ago).

Is that sensible, or should I slow down?

and _possibly_ (though I am suspicious)
using archive-quality media. (I'm suspicious because my
oldest CD-R _does_ still read fine - and I've always bought
the cheapest.)

I have limited options due to where I live (like NO Fuji), but I
have used Quantegy/Ampex and Maxell 650MB's, and Kodak
(excellent, no longer made) and TDK 700's and ONE Verbatim 800.
NO problems - the oldest is about 13 years old and still fine.

I have mostly used Maxell or Verbatim, quite a few Memorex,
some TDK, some assorted odds and ends, and a few cheapos.

Never had any apparent problems at all, even with the cheapos.

--
Angus Rodgers

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 04:25:43 +0000 (UTC), thanatoid
wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in
:

I'd say
for anything really important, at least two copies (and
regularly checked); there's also the matter of not using
max. write speed

DUUUUH.

Oh dear! Don't hit me. I have no idea what is a good speed.

I've been using a Plextor drive, with Nero, and burning at
24x, using discs whose rated speeds range from 40x to 52x
(but I see I also did some at 32x, years ago).

Is that sensible, or should I slow down?

and _possibly_ (though I am suspicious)
using archive-quality media. (I'm suspicious because my
oldest CD-R _does_ still read fine - and I've always bought
the cheapest.)

I have limited options due to where I live (like NO Fuji), but I
have used Quantegy/Ampex and Maxell 650MB's, and Kodak
(excellent, no longer made) and TDK 700's and ONE Verbatim 800.
NO problems - the oldest is about 13 years old and still fine.

I have mostly used Maxell or Verbatim, quite a few Memorex,
some TDK, some assorted odds and ends, and a few cheapos.

Never had any apparent problems at all, even with the cheapos.

--
Angus Rodgers

If it can be done it's only because someone has chosen to publish the
connection. The only place that connection must exist is with the ISP who
created the e-mail account on their server. Assuming that the ISP collected
personal details at that time of establishing the account and then chooses
to publish the details (most won't) then it is possible to find out the name
behind the account. If it's not published then it depends on the
circumstances under which the ISP might make the information available, and
that would typically be only through some legal process.

Of course, anyone else who knows the information, perhaps as a result of
personally knowing the person involved, could have published the
information, either deliberately or accidentally. The accuracy of that
information is obviously highly variable. And I'm not sure how reliable the
ISP information would be, either.
--
Jeff Richards
----------------------------------------

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
snip

I asked because I was serious. There is an individual in another
newsgroup who doesn't use his name and is quite cantankerous (gee, what a
surprise for Usenet, lol), and I would just like to know his FIRST name,
for Pete's sake. It's hard responding to a non-entity.

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
You are the old man who lives in a shack with his cat
and in reality runs the universe. Do people come to sing
to your cat occasionally? []

I have NO idea how to respond to that.
[]
Thanatoid*, it's a reference to a later series of "The
Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy", a radio series (and
book, LP, towels, and TV series) by Douglas Adams.

I /NEVER/ understood what people saw in it. I found it super-
boring. As I do the Simpsons. (Yes, I know they are completely
different. Or maybe not - I base my opinion on less than one
entire episode of each.)

Given that THHGTTG now runs to four series (even the first two come to
12 episodes between them), and the Simpsons goodness knows how many,
your opinion may have a shaky basis ... though the humour of THHGTTG at
least is maybe very British, I'm not sure.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

One death from beef on the bone might be expected every 20 years at the current
rate, but 40,000 people will die falling downstairs in that time. Should we
make
bungalows compulsory? ("Equinox" on Risk, April 1999, paraphrased by Polly
Toynbee in Radio Times)

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
(Wow, tape! I haven't seen a tape drive in a PC store for a
while!)

They're very expensive and for corporate use. They're not sold
in regular stores. But they are still the preferred backup for
REALLY serious stuff.

I had a think, and decided that probably punched plastic tape is the
most robust. But bulky (and punched-tape readers, let alone writers, are
rare now).
[]
(I'm suspicious because my oldest CD-R _does_
still read fine - and I've always bought the cheapest.)

That's probably it was recorded at a (fast then) low speed.

The same thought has occurred to me.

AFA buying cheapest, sorry, but that's just STUPID. What's 40
pence more?

Because I've only really got one dud: using similar reasoning to you, I
suspect it was done with a combination of too-fast a speed and an
inadequate writer.

I'd say
for anything really important, at least two copies (and
regularly checked); there's also the matter of not using
max. write speed

DUUUUH.

What _would_ you say is the answer to Angus's question of the write
speed to use for long-term storage? (I'd say the slowest your drive and
burning software offers, on the basis that the slower the better;
however, I suspect there's little gain below some point. This slowest is
likely to be 4 or 8 these days anyway.)
[]
I have limited options due to where I live (like NO Fuji), but I
have used Quantegy/Ampex and Maxell 650MB's, and Kodak
(excellent, no longer made) and TDK 700's and ONE Verbatim 800.
NO problems - the oldest is about 13 years old and still fine.

I don't _think_ I've used named brands.

"utilities" is little more than a toy. I only run it when
defrag /makes/ me run it. I can check for file001.chk (etc)
in c root myself.

AFAIK, scandisk is the only thing that makes those files,
so if you're finding them, you've been running it.

I knew you were gonna get me on that. I was just too tired to
rephrase everything.

I suspected as much (-:
[]
I've been enjoying the conversation (-:

Pervert.


(-:

And stop driving on the wrong side of the road, FFS!

We don't drive on the wrong side - we drive on the left.

(I've heard it alleged that it was so that one's sword/whip hand was
ready to fen off someone coming the other way. Can't say whether this
makes any sense or not; I'm left-handed anyway. Since most of our road
system is traceable to the Romans, and so is most of the rest of Europe,
it seems odd that we've gone one way and they the other [Sweden used to
be same as us, within my lifetime; Japan still is I think].)

(As a left-hander, I'm used to the confusion between the two meanings of
the word "right".)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

One death from beef on the bone might be expected every 20 years at the current
rate, but 40,000 people will die falling downstairs in that time. Should we
make
bungalows compulsory? ("Equinox" on Risk, April 1999, paraphrased by Polly
Toynbee in Radio Times)

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
(Wow, tape! I haven't seen a tape drive in a PC store for a
while!)

They're very expensive and for corporate use. They're not sold
in regular stores. But they are still the preferred backup for
REALLY serious stuff.

I had a think, and decided that probably punched plastic tape is the
most robust. But bulky (and punched-tape readers, let alone writers, are
rare now).
[]
(I'm suspicious because my oldest CD-R _does_
still read fine - and I've always bought the cheapest.)

That's probably it was recorded at a (fast then) low speed.

The same thought has occurred to me.

AFA buying cheapest, sorry, but that's just STUPID. What's 40
pence more?

Because I've only really got one dud: using similar reasoning to you, I
suspect it was done with a combination of too-fast a speed and an
inadequate writer.

I'd say
for anything really important, at least two copies (and
regularly checked); there's also the matter of not using
max. write speed

DUUUUH.

What _would_ you say is the answer to Angus's question of the write
speed to use for long-term storage? (I'd say the slowest your drive and
burning software offers, on the basis that the slower the better;
however, I suspect there's little gain below some point. This slowest is
likely to be 4 or 8 these days anyway.)
[]
I have limited options due to where I live (like NO Fuji), but I
have used Quantegy/Ampex and Maxell 650MB's, and Kodak
(excellent, no longer made) and TDK 700's and ONE Verbatim 800.
NO problems - the oldest is about 13 years old and still fine.

I don't _think_ I've used named brands.

"utilities" is little more than a toy. I only run it when
defrag /makes/ me run it. I can check for file001.chk (etc)
in c root myself.

AFAIK, scandisk is the only thing that makes those files,
so if you're finding them, you've been running it.

I knew you were gonna get me on that. I was just too tired to
rephrase everything.

I suspected as much (-:
[]
I've been enjoying the conversation (-:

Pervert.


(-:

And stop driving on the wrong side of the road, FFS!

We don't drive on the wrong side - we drive on the left.

(I've heard it alleged that it was so that one's sword/whip hand was
ready to fen off someone coming the other way. Can't say whether this
makes any sense or not; I'm left-handed anyway. Since most of our road
system is traceable to the Romans, and so is most of the rest of Europe,
it seems odd that we've gone one way and they the other [Sweden used to
be same as us, within my lifetime; Japan still is I think].)

(As a left-hander, I'm used to the confusion between the two meanings of
the word "right".)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

One death from beef on the bone might be expected every 20 years at the current
rate, but 40,000 people will die falling downstairs in that time. Should we
make
bungalows compulsory? ("Equinox" on Risk, April 1999, paraphrased by Polly
Toynbee in Radio Times)

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
Glad to be of service (-:. Actually, I did the hex hacking
before it _occurred_ to me that 'lite offers a
shell-switching function.

Supposedly. It claims to be able to undo anything it does so i
tried to make my Lite a regular 98 and see if I could somehow
get rid of Windows Desktop Update (the show as web page ****)
but the only option it gave me was removing /everything/ it did
(which did NOT restore the original 98 files, maybe because I
only have one) or a fresh install of full 98 or 98Lite.

Strange; I can't remember what it was I ran, but it got to the stage of
offering the choice between SLEEK, CHUBBY and whatever the third one is,
and when one other than SLEEK was chosen, proceeded to do the switching,
but without reinstalling the system. I think I ran something from the
98lite menu under Start | Programs; ISTR there's an offer to remove
things (or statement that you can) after you've installed/invoked
98lite, so maybe I didn't do so and you have.
[]
You're coming over to the dark side ... actually, what with
7 now being out, XP _is_ I'm sure entering (in fact has
entered) where '9x was, with lots of people knowing how to
make it behave (and of course MS wanting it to die). If
only they hadn't made it default to NTFS ...

If you have the drive all partitioned in FAT32 it just installs
with FAT32 and doesn't even complain.

Indeed, and if I ever create another one from scratch, I will indeed do
that. I've only ever installed it once, and that was for my blind
friends who wanted it, when I didn't know enough about it to not just
let it go ahead. (It would have been handy for them to have it FAT: they
have a DOS-bootable version of their speech software.) This netbook of
course came with it preinstalled (though I have installed ERUNT to save
configurations, and BartPE so I can get at them [and tested it]).

BTW, did you know NT does NOT /really/ stand for "New
Technology"?

No, though I always thought any such naming is rather short-sighted
anyway; what does it stand for then?

the new version of vlc, but VERY interesting and svaed for
future ref.

Although, FWIW, the ONLY file in /my/ Windows directory
with the W98 extension is shell.w98.

I think the other one or two are in subdirectories.

I did the branch view, ie ALL files in ALL windows subdirs at
once. Who do you think you're talking to? ;-]

I'll try to remember to look next time I have one of my '98 systems up.

I think
one of them is explorer.exe/explorer.w98, and the other
something like shell32.dll/.w98, BICBW. I _think_ they're
the three that the 'lite instructions tell you you need to
have from a '95 installation. []

They're COMDLG32.DLL, EXPLORER.EXE and SHELL32.DLL. But as I
said, the only one I have in the W98 version is the shell.
Whatever. Who cares.

Hmm. Thinking about it, I'm not _not_ sure whether I did the shell
switching using 98lite (though I still _think_ it can do it); I think I
just swapped the files (in DOS, of course [where I have XTree Gold which
makes things easier]) - I think possibly just the two, explorer.* and
shell32.*, with their '98 equivalents; after a reboot, it came up
looking enough like '98 to allow an installation (that wouldn't run
under "95") to run. Then (in DOS again) switch them back.
[]
I didn't say "folder" was any _more_ logical - only that
directory isn't any _less_.

Really like endless semantic discussions, huh?

Well, it's in my blood; though I'm a scientist/engineer, both my parents
were language teachers, and my brother works for the dictionary.

I /said/ NO!

YNASATDD.

Next time you feel like saying whatever that is, expand or don't
bother.

I was actually surprised to find that it was googleable [legible in the
Google extract, i. e. you don't need to go to the page]! (Though I think
of DD as double-dash, whereas the compiler of the glossary has it as
dash dash, but that doesn't matter.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

One death from beef on the bone might be expected every 20 years at the current
rate, but 40,000 people will die falling downstairs in that time. Should we
make
bungalows compulsory? ("Equinox" on Risk, April 1999, paraphrased by Polly
Toynbee in Radio Times)