HELP! Computer is starting up at Win 98 Setup

My desktop computer screen on startup appears to startup
normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen each
time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
screen does not appear but I need to run in normal mode
in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Todd

Look in the Startup Group for mention of "Setup.exe", & uncheck it...

Can you boot to Safe Mode? Hold F5 as you boot, or hold CTRL for the
Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that. If you can get there,
then...

"START, Run, MSConfig" & turn off the Startup Group, Config.sys &
Autoexec.bat. (Note: when you later turn them back on, all items in them
will get checked. So, note what may be unchecked first.)

Can you boot to Normal Mode now? If so, there is some troubleshooting to
do, using MSConfig...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;281965
How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with Windows 98
(281965) - This article describes how to use the Microsoft System
Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot configuration errors in
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.

BUT BE CAREFUL-- better not disable System.ini & Win.ini, because that
can be trouble. Well, if you are sure of your Registry backups, actually
those two can be recovered this way...

(a) Boot to DOS. (Hold Ctrl for the Startup Menu, & select "Command
Prompt Only".)
(b) Scanreg /Restore
(c) Ctrl-Alt Del to Windows.

It will offer five dates. Choose the one of the last successful boot, to
start. These backups are done at boot, not at shut down. This should be
safe to do, if you haven't done anything to files in the mean time. This
will not restore files other than those .ini's & the Registry. It only
restores settings.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Todd" wrote in message
...
| My desktop computer screen on startup appears to startup
| normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen each
| time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
| screen does not appear but I need to run in normal mode
| in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
| greatly appreciated. Thanks.
|
| Todd
|

The computer is still stuck at Windows 98 Setup and
starts setting up Windows 98 again even after doing all
the steps you suggested. I can hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to get
out of it but it comes up again every time I start my
computer. As before, it does not come up in safe mode
but in safe mode, I do not have the use of my CD-Rom
drive. Any other ideas? HELP!

Thanks.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
Look in the Startup Group for mention of "Setup.exe", &
uncheck it...

Can you boot to Safe Mode? Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
CTRL for the
Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that. If you can
get there,
then...

"START, Run, MSConfig" & turn off the Startup Group,
Config.sys &
Autoexec.bat. (Note: when you later turn them back on,
all items in them
will get checked. So, note what may be unchecked first.)

Can you boot to Normal Mode now? If so, there is some
troubleshooting to
do, using MSConfig...

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;281965
How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with
Windows 98
(281965) - This article describes how to use the
Microsoft System
Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot
configuration errors in
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.

BUT BE CAREFUL-- better not disable System.ini &
Win.ini, because that
can be trouble. Well, if you are sure of your Registry
backups, actually
those two can be recovered this way...

(a) Boot to DOS. (Hold Ctrl for the Startup Menu, &
select "Command
Prompt Only".)
(b) Scanreg /Restore
(c) Ctrl-Alt Del to Windows.

It will offer five dates. Choose the one of the last
successful boot, to
start. These backups are done at boot, not at shut down.
This should be
safe to do, if you haven't done anything to files in the
mean time. This
will not restore files other than those .ini's & the
Registry. It only
restores settings.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Todd" wrote in
message
...
| My desktop computer screen on startup appears to
startup
| normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen
each
| time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
| screen does not appear but I need to run in normal mode
| in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
| greatly appreciated. Thanks.
|
| Todd
|


.

(1) Are you in the middle of a reinstall of Windows? Then...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...71&Product=w98
"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup

http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
How to Reinstall Windows 98
(250928) - This article describes how to reinstall Windows 98 or Windows
98 Second Edition.

(2) I guess, better show your Startup Group to us...
"START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup Programs"
Use the Edit menu to select all & copy, & post it. (Edit the output &
put spaces between the lines before posting.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Todd" wrote in message
...
| The computer is still stuck at Windows 98 Setup and
| starts setting up Windows 98 again even after doing all
| the steps you suggested. I can hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to get
| out of it but it comes up again every time I start my
| computer. As before, it does not come up in safe mode
| but in safe mode, I do not have the use of my CD-Rom
| drive. Any other ideas? HELP!
|
| Thanks.
|
| Todd
|
| -----Original Message-----
| Look in the Startup Group for mention of "Setup.exe", &
| uncheck it...
|
| Can you boot to Safe Mode? Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
| CTRL for the
| Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that. If you can
| get there,
| then...
|
| "START, Run, MSConfig" & turn off the Startup Group,
| Config.sys &
| Autoexec.bat. (Note: when you later turn them back on,
| all items in them
| will get checked. So, note what may be unchecked first.)
|
| Can you boot to Normal Mode now? If so, there is some
| troubleshooting to
| do, using MSConfig...
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;281965
| How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with
| Windows 98
| (281965) - This article describes how to use the
| Microsoft System
| Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot
| configuration errors in
| Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.
|
| BUT BE CAREFUL-- better not disable System.ini &
| Win.ini, because that
| can be trouble. Well, if you are sure of your Registry
| backups, actually
| those two can be recovered this way...
|
| (a) Boot to DOS. (Hold Ctrl for the Startup Menu, &
| select "Command
| Prompt Only".)
| (b) Scanreg /Restore
| (c) Ctrl-Alt Del to Windows.
|
| It will offer five dates. Choose the one of the last
| successful boot, to
| start. These backups are done at boot, not at shut down.
| This should be
| safe to do, if you haven't done anything to files in the
| mean time. This
| will not restore files other than those .ini's & the
| Registry. It only
| restores settings.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Todd" wrote in
| message
| ...
| | My desktop computer screen on startup appears to
| startup
| | normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen
| each
| | time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
| | screen does not appear but I need to run in normal mode
| | in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
| | greatly appreciated. Thanks.
| |
| | Todd
| |
|
|
| .
|

I am not trying to reinstall Windows 98 even though my
computer tries to reinstall it each time I turn on the
computer.

Per your (2) below, here is a copy of my Startup Group
after following your previous instructions:

Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l

HP Digital Imaging Monitor Startup Group
C:\Windows\Options\CABS\Setup.EXE

Thanks for any help you can provide. I am at my wits end.

Todd



-----Original Message-----
(1) Are you in the middle of a reinstall of Windows?
Then...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;129971&Product=w98
"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and
Windows Me Setup

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;250928&Product=w98
How to Reinstall Windows 98
(250928) - This article describes how to reinstall
Windows 98 or Windows
98 Second Edition.

(2) I guess, better show your Startup Group to us...
"START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup
Programs"
Use the Edit menu to select all & copy, & post it. (Edit
the output &
put spaces between the lines before posting.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Todd" wrote in
message
...
| The computer is still stuck at Windows 98 Setup and
| starts setting up Windows 98 again even after doing all
| the steps you suggested. I can hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to get
| out of it but it comes up again every time I start my
| computer. As before, it does not come up in safe mode
| but in safe mode, I do not have the use of my CD-Rom
| drive. Any other ideas? HELP!
|
| Thanks.
|
| Todd
|
| -----Original Message-----
| Look in the Startup Group for mention of "Setup.exe", &
| uncheck it...
|
| Can you boot to Safe Mode? Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
| CTRL for the
| Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that. If you can
| get there,
| then...
|
| "START, Run, MSConfig" & turn off the Startup Group,
| Config.sys &
| Autoexec.bat. (Note: when you later turn them back on,
| all items in them
| will get checked. So, note what may be unchecked
first.)
|
| Can you boot to Normal Mode now? If so, there is some
| troubleshooting to
| do, using MSConfig...
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;281965
| How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with
| Windows 98
| (281965) - This article describes how to use the
| Microsoft System
| Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot
| configuration errors in
| Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.
|
| BUT BE CAREFUL-- better not disable System.ini &
| Win.ini, because that
| can be trouble. Well, if you are sure of your Registry
| backups, actually
| those two can be recovered this way...
|
| (a) Boot to DOS. (Hold Ctrl for the Startup Menu, &
| select "Command
| Prompt Only".)
| (b) Scanreg /Restore
| (c) Ctrl-Alt Del to Windows.
|
| It will offer five dates. Choose the one of the last
| successful boot, to
| start. These backups are done at boot, not at shut
down.
| This should be
| safe to do, if you haven't done anything to files in
the
| mean time. This
| will not restore files other than those .ini's & the
| Registry. It only
| restores settings.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Todd" wrote in
| message
| ...
| | My desktop computer screen on startup appears to
| startup
| | normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen
| each
| | time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
| | screen does not appear but I need to run in normal
mode
| | in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
| | greatly appreciated. Thanks.
| |
| | Todd
| |
|
|
| .
|


.

Here it is...

| HP Digital Imaging Monitor Startup Group
| C:\Windows\Options\CABS\Setup.EXE

THAT is THE folder that holds THE "Setup.exe" that installs Windows! I
can't think how HP got hold of it. Uncheck that item in MSConfig, and it
will stop. May as well also...

MSConfig keeps it in Startup, just in case you want to check it again.
It has not been loaded to run, as Ctrl-Alt-Del shows. It has been moved
to a Minus (-) Key in the Registry. To remove it from the Registry, you
may navigate to the Key, and delete the entry under it. That will also
remove it from MSConfig Startup, where you will no longer be able to
check it. It's probably under one of these Keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run-
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run-
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices
-
^... That minus sign wrapped away from "RunServices-".

Also he
"C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\Disabled Startup Items"
"START, Run, Win.ini". Delete any 'norun' entries under the [Windows]
section.

You would navigate to each key, by clicking the plus signs in the left
pane. When you see "Run-", click it and look in the right pane, for what
looks like the one your looking for. R-Clk it in the right pane and
select "delete". However, first: "Registry menu, Export Registry File".
This will create a .reg file of that Minus Key, which you may run (by
clicking) to undo the delete you are about to do. All of that can more
easily be done with
http://www.pcmag.com/ ' RegEdit+, which has a customizable "Favorites"
list, which includes those Minus Keys. It also has automatic "undo".
Registry Detective is another worthy program freely downloadable there.
StartupCop may really be what you need, also there.

Watch out, keep the LoadPowerProfiles, and, I guess, any virus scanner
duplicates.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"todd" wrote in message
...
| I am not trying to reinstall Windows 98 even though my
| computer tries to reinstall it each time I turn on the
| computer.
|
| Per your (2) below, here is a copy of my Startup Group
| after following your previous instructions:
|
| Microsoft Office Startup Group "C:\Program
| Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE" -b -l
|
| HP Digital Imaging Monitor Startup Group
| C:\Windows\Options\CABS\Setup.EXE
|
| Thanks for any help you can provide. I am at my wits end.
|
| Todd
|
|
|
| -----Original Message-----
| (1) Are you in the middle of a reinstall of Windows?
| Then...
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;129971&Product=w98
| "SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and
| Windows Me Setup
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| us;250928&Product=w98
| How to Reinstall Windows 98
| (250928) - This article describes how to reinstall
| Windows 98 or Windows
| 98 Second Edition.
|
| (2) I guess, better show your Startup Group to us...
| "START, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup
| Programs"
| Use the Edit menu to select all & copy, & post it. (Edit
| the output &
| put spaces between the lines before posting.)
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Todd" wrote in
| message
| ...
| | The computer is still stuck at Windows 98 Setup and
| | starts setting up Windows 98 again even after doing all
| | the steps you suggested. I can hit CTRL-ALT-DEL to get
| | out of it but it comes up again every time I start my
| | computer. As before, it does not come up in safe mode
| | but in safe mode, I do not have the use of my CD-Rom
| | drive. Any other ideas? HELP!
| |
| | Thanks.
| |
| | Todd
| |
| | -----Original Message-----
| | Look in the Startup Group for mention of "Setup.exe", &
| | uncheck it...
| |
| | Can you boot to Safe Mode? Hold F5 as you boot, or hold
| | CTRL for the
| | Startup Menu, & select Safe Mode from that. If you can
| | get there,
| | then...
| |
| | "START, Run, MSConfig" & turn off the Startup Group,
| | Config.sys &
| | Autoexec.bat. (Note: when you later turn them back on,
| | all items in them
| | will get checked. So, note what may be unchecked
| first.)
| |
| | Can you boot to Normal Mode now? If so, there is some
| | troubleshooting to
| | do, using MSConfig...
| |
| | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
| | us;281965
| | How to Troubleshoot Using the Msconfig Utility with
| | Windows 98
| | (281965) - This article describes how to use the
| | Microsoft System
| | Configuration (Msconfig) utility to troubleshoot
| | configuration errors in
| | Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition.
| |
| | BUT BE CAREFUL-- better not disable System.ini &
| | Win.ini, because that
| | can be trouble. Well, if you are sure of your Registry
| | backups, actually
| | those two can be recovered this way...
| |
| | (a) Boot to DOS. (Hold Ctrl for the Startup Menu, &
| | select "Command
| | Prompt Only".)
| | (b) Scanreg /Restore
| | (c) Ctrl-Alt Del to Windows.
| |
| | It will offer five dates. Choose the one of the last
| | successful boot, to
| | start. These backups are done at boot, not at shut
| down.
| | This should be
| | safe to do, if you haven't done anything to files in
| the
| | mean time. This
| | will not restore files other than those .ini's & the
| | Registry. It only
| | restores settings.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "Todd" wrote in
| | message
| | ...
| | | My desktop computer screen on startup appears to
| | startup
| | | normally only to end up at a Windows 98 Setup screen
| | each
| | | time. How do I get out of this? In safe mode this
| | | screen does not appear but I need to run in normal
| mode
| | | in order to use my CD-Rom drive. Any ideas would be
| | | greatly appreciated. Thanks.
| | |
| | | Todd
| | |
| |
| |
| | .
| |
|
|
| .
|