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Old April 17th 05, 06:03 PM
Jeffrey Spoon
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover



Hello I'm trying to set up a Win98SE and XP Pro machine to talk to each
other over TCP/IP so I can run a program I'm working on. However, I
can't seem to get them working.

I have set the XP Pro box up with a network connection, manual IP
address 192.168.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0. I set the Win98SE box to the
same subnet and 192.168.1.2 IP address. I then set them to the same work
group name. I then put the crossover adapter on the Win98 NIC.

The XP box immediately noticed the connection in the Network connections
and connected. I could ping the 98 box. But the 98 box was non the wiser
and couldn't ping or see the XP machine. So I swapped the adapter to the
XP NIC. The XP box still detected the connection, but I couldn't ping
the 98 box any more. So I swapped the adapter back to the 98 NIC, but
still couldn't ping either box. Also the NIC in the 98 box activity LED
remains solid for most of the time (accept when receiving something from
the XP box).

I'm sure I haven't set up the 98 box properly and something is missing.
The only thing I can think of is swapping the 98 box NIC to another slot
and see if it is the card, or swapping it with the NIC in the XP box.
Other than that it may be an XP/98SE config problem but I'm not sure
what.

I should also mention I did this originally with Win98 on the old box,
but thinking the installation was fritzed, I formatted it and installed
98SE. But the result was the same, so it must be a config problem.

Cheers




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Old April 17th 05, 06:20 PM
CJT
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Jeffrey Spoon wrote:


Hello I'm trying to set up a Win98SE and XP Pro machine to talk to each
other over TCP/IP so I can run a program I'm working on. However, I
can't seem to get them working.

I have set the XP Pro box up with a network connection, manual IP
address 192.168.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0. I set the Win98SE box to the
same subnet and 192.168.1.2 IP address. I then set them to the same work
group name. I then put the crossover adapter on the Win98 NIC.

The XP box immediately noticed the connection in the Network connections
and connected. I could ping the 98 box. But the 98 box was non the wiser
and couldn't ping or see the XP machine. So I swapped the adapter to the
XP NIC. The XP box still detected the connection, but I couldn't ping
the 98 box any more. So I swapped the adapter back to the 98 NIC, but
still couldn't ping either box. Also the NIC in the 98 box activity LED
remains solid for most of the time (accept when receiving something from
the XP box).

I'm sure I haven't set up the 98 box properly and something is missing.
The only thing I can think of is swapping the 98 box NIC to another slot
and see if it is the card, or swapping it with the NIC in the XP box.
Other than that it may be an XP/98SE config problem but I'm not sure what.

I should also mention I did this originally with Win98 on the old box,
but thinking the installation was fritzed, I formatted it and installed
98SE. But the result was the same, so it must be a config problem.

Cheers




I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.

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Old April 17th 05, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
CJT
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover

Jeffrey Spoon wrote:


Hello I'm trying to set up a Win98SE and XP Pro machine to talk to each
other over TCP/IP so I can run a program I'm working on. However, I
can't seem to get them working.

I have set the XP Pro box up with a network connection, manual IP
address 192.168.1.1, subnet 255.255.255.0. I set the Win98SE box to the
same subnet and 192.168.1.2 IP address. I then set them to the same work
group name. I then put the crossover adapter on the Win98 NIC.

The XP box immediately noticed the connection in the Network connections
and connected. I could ping the 98 box. But the 98 box was non the wiser
and couldn't ping or see the XP machine. So I swapped the adapter to the
XP NIC. The XP box still detected the connection, but I couldn't ping
the 98 box any more. So I swapped the adapter back to the 98 NIC, but
still couldn't ping either box. Also the NIC in the 98 box activity LED
remains solid for most of the time (accept when receiving something from
the XP box).

I'm sure I haven't set up the 98 box properly and something is missing.
The only thing I can think of is swapping the 98 box NIC to another slot
and see if it is the card, or swapping it with the NIC in the XP box.
Other than that it may be an XP/98SE config problem but I'm not sure what.

I should also mention I did this originally with Win98 on the old box,
but thinking the installation was fritzed, I formatted it and installed
98SE. But the result was the same, so it must be a config problem.

Cheers




I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.

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Old April 17th 05, 10:51 PM
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In message , CJT
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.


I've just noticed the MAC address for the 98 NIC is 00-00-59-fe-00-00.
Default setting mebbe?



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Old April 17th 05, 10:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Jeffrey Spoon
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover

In message , CJT
writes

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.


I've just noticed the MAC address for the 98 NIC is 00-00-59-fe-00-00.
Default setting mebbe?



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Jeffrey Spoon

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Old April 17th 05, 10:57 PM
MercurioX
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You should try a switch or a cable like CJT said.
98SE is more prepared to be a receiver than a sender, so that is the
reason that the WINXP box detect the 98 but the 98 not.

A switch or a Hub will work great. !!!!!!

Good luck !!!


*PD Sorry for my English.

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Old April 17th 05, 10:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
MercurioX
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover

You should try a switch or a cable like CJT said.
98SE is more prepared to be a receiver than a sender, so that is the
reason that the WINXP box detect the 98 but the 98 not.

A switch or a Hub will work great. !!!!!!

Good luck !!!


*PD Sorry for my English.

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Old April 18th 05, 12:37 AM
Al Dykes
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In article ,
Jeffrey Spoon wrote:
In message , CJT
writes

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.


I've just noticed the MAC address for the 98 NIC is 00-00-59-fe-00-00.
Default setting mebbe?



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Jeffrey Spoon



Next time run ipconfig /all on the XP machine
and winipcfg on the 98 box and post the results for us to
look at.

I assume you have a store-bought xover cable and it's OK. If you
wired it yourself all bets are on the cable being wrong.

XP will "autoconfigure" if it doesn't see a dhcp server. (so will
w2k. 98 won't) I suggest you boot XP and allow that to happen
(ipconfig/all will tell you that autoconfigure worked) and then set
the 98 machine to identical IP number plus 1 and identical mask.

I'm drawing a blank on what the gateway should be for a two-computer
LAN. Someone here can chip in and state what it should be. It's not
used because there is no routing. Maybe it does't matter.

Ping with IP numbers, not computer names.












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Old April 18th 05, 12:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
Al Dykes
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover

In article ,
Jeffrey Spoon wrote:
In message , CJT
writes

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.


I've just noticed the MAC address for the 98 NIC is 00-00-59-fe-00-00.
Default setting mebbe?



--
Jeffrey Spoon



Next time run ipconfig /all on the XP machine
and winipcfg on the 98 box and post the results for us to
look at.

I assume you have a store-bought xover cable and it's OK. If you
wired it yourself all bets are on the cable being wrong.

XP will "autoconfigure" if it doesn't see a dhcp server. (so will
w2k. 98 won't) I suggest you boot XP and allow that to happen
(ipconfig/all will tell you that autoconfigure worked) and then set
the 98 machine to identical IP number plus 1 and identical mask.

I'm drawing a blank on what the gateway should be for a two-computer
LAN. Someone here can chip in and state what it should be. It's not
used because there is no routing. Maybe it does't matter.

Ping with IP numbers, not computer names.












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Old April 18th 05, 03:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip
J. Clarke
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Default Problems connecting Win98SE and XP Pro using crossover

Jeffrey Spoon wrote:

In message , CJT
writes

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cabling problem.

Try it with a switch or hub and regular cables.


I've just noticed the MAC address for the 98 NIC is 00-00-59-fe-00-00.
Default setting mebbe?


MAC addresses are burned into ROM during manufacture. You shouldn't have to
mess with them at all.


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