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  #61  
Old January 20th 05, 08:36 PM
Joan Archer
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In Loughborough Mike there was a factory called "Brush" I think it was
part of Hawker Siddely sp I know the factory, I used to work there
making fuses they also did turbine engine windings and things like that
my first husbands whole family worked there in one dept. or another even
his mother, she was in the canteen g
Joan

Mike M wrote:
I think Mosquitoes were built at DeHavilland's Hatfield factory. As for
"Black Bombers" I suspect you may be referring to something more
uplifting although the Loughborough connection loses me. :-)

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Old January 21st 05, 12:26 AM
Shane
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Presuming the same Brush, they were a major manufacturer of our
diesel-electric locomotives. Didn't know about an HS connection but I
wouldn't be surprised. Their main competitor was English Electric who not
only made the loco that replaced steam on the East Coast Main Line
expresses - the Deltic - but also our first in-level-flight supersonic jet,
the Lightning (which still holds speed records for vertical flight nearly 50
years after it entered service) and the equally old Canberra jet bomber that
is still in service as a reconnaissance aircraft and pretty-much unsurpassed
in it's role. God what an anorak I've become!


Shane


"Joan Archer" wrote in message
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In Loughborough Mike there was a factory called "Brush" I think it was
part of Hawker Siddely sp I know the factory, I used to work there
making fuses they also did turbine engine windings and things like that
my first husbands whole family worked there in one dept. or another even
his mother, she was in the canteen g
Joan

Mike M wrote:
I think Mosquitoes were built at DeHavilland's Hatfield factory. As for
"Black Bombers" I suspect you may be referring to something more
uplifting although the Loughborough connection loses me. :-)



  #63  
Old January 21st 05, 12:32 AM
Shane
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I suppose by the time Mossies were being built, the Luftwaffe was a spent
force this side of the channel and Hatfield was safe. So long as you weren't
South of the river and having the Doodlebugs diverted your way, away from
Buck House, you probably weren't in too much danger by then!

As for "Black Bombers" I suspect you may be right! TNG would be a clue as to
the connection with Loughborough.



Shane


"Mike M" wrote in message
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I think Mosquitoes were built at DeHavilland's Hatfield factory. As for
"Black Bombers" I suspect you may be referring to something more uplifting
although the Loughborough connection loses me. :-)
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Shane wrote:

Lancs were just outside Manchester iirc. afaik DH were rather more
Southern, though maybe Mossies were built oop North on account of
less likely to be bombed anyway.




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Old January 21st 05, 01:00 AM
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"Mike M" wrote in message
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but also our first in-level-flight supersonic jet,


But only by a whisker. The Fairy Delta 2 (FD2) piloted by Peter Twiss
first flew a couple of weeks or so after the EE P1 and was just a little
bit faster. :-) World record 1,132 mph


Any of those still around, Mike? I think it's just one of many scandals
inflicted upon our once-magnificent aerospace industry by those time-servers
we give executive power to that there are no lightnings in flying condition
left. Afaik the only flightworthy examples left in the world are two in
Capetown, which were restored here then sold - which you can go up in and
take the controls (the two seater, obviously!).


Shane


  #66  
Old January 21st 05, 01:42 AM
Mike M
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There were only ever 2 FD2s which was a research aircraft built at Fairey
Engineering in Manchester rather than the Fairey factory in Hayes, Middx.
The FD2 had a droop snoop as later used on Concorde. I think one may still
survive at Cosford (RAF Museum). I remember Twiss making a fly pass over
where I lived on his return after his record flight, not for us of course,
but we lived not far from White Waltham which was a test field used by
Fairey's.

Oh - in case you're wondering, my father was an aircraft designer and
worked on the Gannet, Rotadyne, Airco 121 (better known as DH121 or
Trident). Airco was a short lived partnership of De Havilland, Fairey and
Hunting - he was responsible for the tail assembly with the high tail
plane, and then Scout & Wasp helicopters after the merger of Shorts/Fairey
etc. into Westland.

A flight in a Lightning must be a bit like sitting on the back of a rocket
on bonfire night. :-)
--
Mike


Shane wrote:

Any of those still around, Mike? I think it's just one of many
scandals inflicted upon our once-magnificent aerospace industry by
those time-servers we give executive power to that there are no
lightnings in flying condition left. Afaik the only flightworthy
examples left in the world are two in Capetown, which were restored
here then sold - which you can go up in and take the controls (the
two seater, obviously!).


  #67  
Old January 21st 05, 01:48 AM
Heather
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Growing old......not quite sure about *gracefully*, lol. But it sure beats
the alternative!!!!

Actually, my younger sister (2 years younger) has more wrinkles than I do,
but she is also a few stone lighter. Pays to have chubby cheeks!!

Cheers.....Heather

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
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lol Nothing will get rid of them, but I grow old gracefully what about
you vbg
Joan

Heather wrote:
Tell her it won't get rid of the wrinkles........ROFL!! She will kill

me
for this one.....snicker.

Figgs



  #68  
Old January 21st 05, 02:02 AM
Heather
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Hi Sced....

AT LAST!! I finished backing up all the mp3's......lost count of how many
data CD's they filled.....just checked.....15 of them. Just have to do one
more data backup and then take this machine in for the diagnosis. Boy, that
was a royal PITA!! And I will probably never play half of them. At least I
can get some of them off this hard drive now.

As for Best Buy....we have one right here in town, with a Geek Squad, cough.
Yet another idiot!! Señor Geek (got a spanish one, grin) didn't know ****
all about my problems and suggested I probably had a virus and to get
Norton. Sigh.....why are all the techs so stupid??? Do they tell males
they have a virus??

Anyway....when I spoke to Willy (the computer store owner) about hard drives
and asked his advice on what brand, he said they were all pretty much the
same (say, WD vs. Maxtor, etc).....just to make sure I got one with a
warranty. He is the one who offered to put Windows on here, and said he
would not recommend a size until he checked out my computer, due to the
power zap.

I have decided, after filling out all the dam paperwork for 3 mail-in
rebates, that I am NEVER buying anything with them again. But I did look at
BB a couple of weeks ago and didn't see any particularly good prices on hard
drives. I will check again.

Thanks for the info, though. Off to get caught up on life as I am tired of
backups. One more to go and that's it for now.

Cheers......Heather

"looneytunesverizone.net verizone.net " "looneytunes wrote in message
...
Heather:

Maybe you should check out "Best Buy" if there is one near you. I bought
a WD 120 GiG 7200rpm for $99.99 Jan 11. With two rebates totaling $50.
my net cost is $49.99 plus tax of course. One of the hardware upgrades
mentioned when I started the "slipstream" question. Of course, I won't
be having Windows loaded for me so your comfort level may be more
important than price.

sced13ri

Heather wrote:
Oh, I've just realised that the 650GB I mentioned should have been 680GB


(3x200GB + 1x80GB). Try hanging that lot off Win Me.

OK.....dibs on the 80 GB....just priced one today.

Found another tech and he only charges $70? (prices downstairs) for 40

GB,
$99 for 80.....and $60 to install Windows on it.

This guy actually knows the difference between XP Upgrade &

Home.....lol.
He is going to do the diagnosis for CyberPower coz...

a) I trust him.....
b) he is just around the corner.....
c) his prices are better. (G)

Only 5 gig more to back up......getting tired of this. Done 8 CD's so

far.
(8 x 700 = 5600 meg - 5.6 gig......sigh) Not to mention the Data one.

I
think the most tedious part is re-arranging the folders to fit and by

genre.

Figgs

"Mike M" wrote in message
...

Shane wrote:


850MHz. OK it's not pre-historic but could use the increased speed on
occassion.


two main PCs may differ from the norm is the amount of HD disk space
on each (500GB on one and 650GB on the other). :-)

Jeez, Mike, you got the human genome on there or something???

Just the odd video capture. :-) Much of it is "work in progress". As

it
happens one of the 200GB drives on this box was bought as an emergency
replacement when I lost a drive due to over heating and I needed a

similar
size drive to aid in data recovery. Since then the original drive is

back
working OK and sitting here essentially empty (actually it's backing up
another drive).

Oh, I've just realised that the 650GB I mentioned should have been 680GB
(3x200GB + 1x80GB). Try hanging that lot off Win Me. g
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP










  #69  
Old January 21st 05, 02:54 AM
Shane
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The FD2 had a droop snoop as later used on Concorde. I think one may still
survive at Cosford (RAF Museum).


Mean to go up there one day. I expect you know I live within walking
distance of Hendon. Went there last week, in fact, for the umpteenth time,
but museums are, you know, dead.......

but we lived not far from White Waltham which was a test field used by
Fairey's.


If that was while Noel was at Slough, I can understand why you moved!
rofl.....sorry Noel, you know I can't resist!

Oh - in case you're wondering, my father was an aircraft designer and
worked on the Gannet, Rotadyne, Airco 121 (better known as DH121 or
Trident). Airco was a short lived partnership of De Havilland, Fairey and
Hunting - he was responsible for the tail assembly with the high tail
plane, and then Scout & Wasp helicopters after the merger of Shorts/Fairey
etc. into Westland.


Wonderful. You must have had a fascinating childhood! I didn't realise the
Trident started as a DeHavilland. Did he have anything to do with the
one-eleven (first plane I ever went up in)? I always thought they had a
familial resemblance.

I used to live near Lasham airport and wish I'd paid more attention to their
Comets. It beats me why we can't keep at least one example of these machines
in fully-working order!


A flight in a Lightning must be a bit like sitting on the back of a rocket
on bonfire night. :-)
--


I love the stories about them - like how the first RAF pilots to fly them,
used to Meteors, would find themselves going supersonic on take-off! I count
myself lucky to have seen their airshow party-piece of going vertical.


Shane






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Old January 21st 05, 05:58 AM
looneytunes>verizone.net
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Heather:

Sounds like you had a mammoth problem. So far, I haven't "fried" :-) any
of my computers. Eggs will do. I admit I have used only WD drives since
I built my first computer and for subsequent hardware upgrades. I have
never had a problem with any of them. Then again, I never owned a Ford
automobile that didn't cause me headache and expense.:-( Go figure. So,
Willy is right, some people just get lemons while others enjoy sweet
treats. As for the power question, the two drives I have sitting here
both would use about 12 to 13 Watts according to the specs on the
labels. One is the 120 Gig I mentioned and the other is an 80 Gig.
Still, some calculators allow about 35 Watts per hard drive. I may be
wrong but, unless your system has a really low power supply rating the
other hardware such as video cards, ROMs, sound, RAM etc: may have more
to do with what your system draws. I think I have a 400W supply in my
box, so far no problems. But, lets see what happens when I pop in all
the new stuff before I upgrade to XP. I may be pushing the envelope just
a little. BTW, it's down to 14° here in "Little Rhodie" with a high of
11° for Friday. Are you sure your not shipping some punitive northern
air down to the lower 48? 8-) Anyway, good luck and keep warm.

Ed

Heather wrote:
Hi Sced....

AT LAST!! I finished backing up all the mp3's......lost count of how many
data CD's they filled.....just checked.....15 of them. Just have to do one
more data backup and then take this machine in for the diagnosis. Boy, that
was a royal PITA!! And I will probably never play half of them. At least I
can get some of them off this hard drive now.

As for Best Buy....we have one right here in town, with a Geek Squad, cough.
Yet another idiot!! Señor Geek (got a spanish one, grin) didn't know ****
all about my problems and suggested I probably had a virus and to get
Norton. Sigh.....why are all the techs so stupid??? Do they tell males
they have a virus??

Anyway....when I spoke to Willy (the computer store owner) about hard drives
and asked his advice on what brand, he said they were all pretty much the
same (say, WD vs. Maxtor, etc).....just to make sure I got one with a
warranty. He is the one who offered to put Windows on here, and said he
would not recommend a size until he checked out my computer, due to the
power zap.

I have decided, after filling out all the dam paperwork for 3 mail-in
rebates, that I am NEVER buying anything with them again. But I did look at
BB a couple of weeks ago and didn't see any particularly good prices on hard
drives. I will check again.

Thanks for the info, though. Off to get caught up on life as I am tired of
backups. One more to go and that's it for now.

Cheers......Heather

"looneytunesverizone.net verizone.net " "looneytunes wrote in message
...

Heather:

Maybe you should check out "Best Buy" if there is one near you. I bought
a WD 120 GiG 7200rpm for $99.99 Jan 11. With two rebates totaling $50.
my net cost is $49.99 plus tax of course. One of the hardware upgrades
mentioned when I started the "slipstream" question. Of course, I won't
be having Windows loaded for me so your comfort level may be more
important than price.

sced13ri

Heather wrote:

Oh, I've just realised that the 650GB I mentioned should have been 680GB

(3x200GB + 1x80GB). Try hanging that lot off Win Me.

OK.....dibs on the 80 GB....just priced one today.

Found another tech and he only charges $70? (prices downstairs) for 40


GB,

$99 for 80.....and $60 to install Windows on it.

This guy actually knows the difference between XP Upgrade &


Home.....lol.

He is going to do the diagnosis for CyberPower coz...

a) I trust him.....
b) he is just around the corner.....
c) his prices are better. (G)

Only 5 gig more to back up......getting tired of this. Done 8 CD's so


far.

(8 x 700 = 5600 meg - 5.6 gig......sigh) Not to mention the Data one.


I

think the most tedious part is re-arranging the folders to fit and by


genre.

Figgs

"Mike M" wrote in message
. ..


Shane wrote:



850MHz. OK it's not pre-historic but could use the increased speed on
occassion.



two main PCs may differ from the norm is the amount of HD disk space
on each (500GB on one and 650GB on the other). :-)

Jeez, Mike, you got the human genome on there or something???

Just the odd video capture. :-) Much of it is "work in progress". As


it

happens one of the 200GB drives on this box was bought as an emergency
replacement when I lost a drive due to over heating and I needed a


similar

size drive to aid in data recovery. Since then the original drive is


back

working OK and sitting here essentially empty (actually it's backing up
another drive).

Oh, I've just realised that the 650GB I mentioned should have been 680GB
(3x200GB + 1x80GB). Try hanging that lot off Win Me. g
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP










 




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