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Old July 5th 04, 01:30 PM
Karl T. Thurber, Jr.
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Default Installing/Uninstalling in Safe Mode

I have rarely have used Safe Mode, but I wonder if Safe Mode is suitable for
installing and uninstalling programs that tend to crash or freeze up the
system (using Win 98, IE 5.5) when installing or uninstalling them?

I'm thinking mainly of AntiVirus and web accelerator programs, several of
which I have had problems with when installing and uninstalling.

Somewhere I read that in Safe Mode, full registry access isn't available,
though I wonder what that means. So I wonder if uninstalls in Safe Mode
might work OK, but installs might not.

Has anyone any experience with Safe Mode for installs/uninstalls?




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Old July 5th 04, 02:50 PM
AlmostBob
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Default Installing/Uninstalling in Safe Mode

web accellerator:: may not be really useful, you can get most of the benefits
without the overheads of installed devices, and for already compressed files
it may be actually slower than without them installed, the advertising states
'UP TO 5 times faster' which clearly includes zero.
they are usually a proxy server to speed up recently accessed links, a hosts
system to remove junk from web pages and on-the-fly compression to reduce data
transmission, Most ISP have a link to the ISP's proxy server posted on their
web site, with instructions for setting it up,
Hosts files to strip out advertising are already freely available together
with programs to maintain them(take 50k of advertising images from a 100k web
page and it loads twice as fast), a good one from msmvp.org is regularly
updated,
the compression routine to decrease data transmission is of no use on already
compressed files, zip+rar+exe installers, mp3 avi mpg mov media files are
already compressed, and the processor overheads may add to the size of
compressed files (try rezipping a zip file, the result is bigger than the
initial zip) and then there is the processor overhead on the local pc to
decompress the datastream.
Often a good local Hosts file and use of your own ISP proxy server means no
need for the web accelerator

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Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.pandasoftware.com/ActiveScan/
Catalog of removal tools http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

"Karl T. Thurber, Jr." wrote in message
news | I have rarely have used Safe Mode, but I wonder if Safe Mode is suitable for
| installing and uninstalling programs that tend to crash or freeze up the
| system (using Win 98, IE 5.5) when installing or uninstalling them?
|
| I'm thinking mainly of AntiVirus and web accelerator programs, several of
| which I have had problems with when installing and uninstalling.
|
| Somewhere I read that in Safe Mode, full registry access isn't available,
| though I wonder what that means. So I wonder if uninstalls in Safe Mode
| might work OK, but installs might not.
|
| Has anyone any experience with Safe Mode for installs/uninstalls?
|
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Old July 5th 04, 02:53 PM
Eric
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Default Installing/Uninstalling in Safe Mode

Windows programs won't install or run in Safe mode, but
they can often be uninstalled in Safe mode, because that is
what it is there for: for system diagnostics and to undo
faulty changes to the system.

If you can't install a Windows program in normal Windows
mode, it's advisable not to use it. Find alternative that
can installed properly.

Eric,
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-----Original Message-----
I have rarely have used Safe Mode, but I wonder if Safe

Mode is suitable for
installing and uninstalling programs that tend to crash or

freeze up the
system (using Win 98, IE 5.5) when installing or

uninstalling them?

I'm thinking mainly of AntiVirus and web accelerator

programs, several of
which I have had problems with when installing and

uninstalling.

Somewhere I read that in Safe Mode, full registry access

isn't available,
though I wonder what that means. So I wonder if uninstalls

in Safe Mode
might work OK, but installs might not.

Has anyone any experience with Safe Mode for

installs/uninstalls?




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Old July 7th 04, 12:42 PM
Karl T. Thurber, Jr.
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Default Installing/Uninstalling in Safe Mode

Eric,

Thanks for the observation. So, if I uninstall a difficult program in Safe
Mode, I assume it will update the registry and do the usual cleanup an
uninstall does?

I believe I'm having to do this with an old accelerator program, Netsonic
Pro 2.0, which I understand may have problems uninstalling in regular
Windows mode since two of its files are always in use (I can see this when I
do tape backups, which report an "error" in that they are always unable to
backup these files since they are in use.)

-- Karl


Eric wrote in message ...
Windows programs won't install or run in Safe mode, but
they can often be uninstalled in Safe mode, because that is
what it is there for: for system diagnostics and to undo
faulty changes to the system.

If you can't install a Windows program in normal Windows
mode, it's advisable not to use it. Find alternative that
can installed properly.




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Old July 7th 04, 12:51 PM
Karl T. Thurber, Jr.
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Default Installing/Uninstalling in Safe Mode

Eric,

I'm going to repost my reply, below. I'm not sure my original reply posted
properly--Karl.


Karl T. Thurber, Jr. wrote in message ...
Eric,

Thanks for the observation. So, if I uninstall a difficult program in Safe
Mode, I assume it will update the registry and do the usual cleanup an
uninstall does?

I believe I'm having to do this with an old accelerator program, Netsonic
Pro 2.0, which I understand may have problems uninstalling in regular
Windows mode since two of its files are always in use (I can see this when

I
do tape backups, which report an "error" in that they are always unable to
backup these files since they are in use.)

-- Karl


Eric wrote in message ...
Windows programs won't install or run in Safe mode, but
they can often be uninstalled in Safe mode, because that is
what it is there for: for system diagnostics and to undo
faulty changes to the system.

If you can't install a Windows program in normal Windows
mode, it's advisable not to use it. Find alternative that
can installed properly.






 




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