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Old February 6th 09, 01:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
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On Feb 5, 4:22*pm, Rich newtech
wrote:
There is nothing like that in my dm. When i expand the mouse it only shows
ps/2 mouse port. That's all.


I can think of a few problems that could cause your failure. An
example. If the power line for that mouse is disconnected (ie fuse or
automatic resetting circuit breaker open), then the mouse is powered
via signal lines. That would cause corrupted serial data - would
explain the symptoms I read. An LED and a 200 ohm resistor
temporarily touching the two pins would even test for that.

Your problem is why more responsible computer manufacturers provide
comprehensive hardware diagnostics for free. Many who buy computers
on price do not get those (what you need to solve the problem)
diagnostics.

Numerious other useful facts might be provided if you could provide
then necessary measurements or access. Some facts may have already
been provided. But too much information is scattered among other
posts that recommend nonsense - such as a defective BIOS. If s BIOS
is corrupted, then BIOS completely crashes the computer. Anyone with
basic programming knowledge would have known that.

If I was doing this (without diagnostics), I might write a short
program to read data direct from the mouse - to actually see what the
mouse is outtputing. Or measure voltage on the appropriate wire with
a meter. But that assumes I had to fix it. Apparently the loss is
acceptable.
  #42  
Old February 6th 09, 02:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
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snip
Numerious other useful facts might be provided if you could provide
then necessary measurements or access. Some facts may have already
been provided. But too much information is scattered among other
posts that recommend nonsense - such as a defective BIOS. If s BIOS
is corrupted, then BIOS completely crashes the computer. Anyone with
basic programming knowledge would have known that.
snip


Tom,

I suggest you re-read this thread, as you have clearly mis-read what has been
suggested in the replies. Nowhere did *anyone* replying EVER suggest that the BIOS
was defective. The original poster, Rich, ASKED if there could be "a problem with
the bios that is causing a problem with the mouse." The replies he received from
J.P., Jeff, and myself all stated that the only part the BIOS would play is if there
is a setting in that BIOS to disable the PS/2 port, and if it was in fact disabled
there. No other reference to a damaged or corrupted BIOS was made in this thread.

In fact, I specifically stated in my reply to Rich:
quote
"If there is any sort of electrical damage to the BIOS, I doubt you would *only* be
seeing a picky mouse port, and I doubt the mouse port would even be affected.
There'd be far worse symptoms, like not being able to boot. A damaged BIOS chip
could only be replaced....not something you would do yourself and likely this older
system would not have a ready replacement available."
/quote

The only other reference to the BIOS was in response to Rich's query mentioned
above, where I also stated (and accurately) that an electrical surge could have
changed settings in the BIOS. I have seen this occur more than once. It is
possible, whether you choose to believe it or not, for a small surge to cause
changes in BIOS settings without damaging or totally corrupting the BIOS, and
without making the system unbootable. No one has made any statements here
suggesting that the BIOS was damaged, except for you.

There was no "nonsense" recommended in any of the replies, and I am frankly a bit
tired of seeing so many of your replies in these groups start off with attacks on
the replies of others, especially when your own statements are inaccurate. It is a
pattern you have followed literally for years in these groups.
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Old February 6th 09, 02:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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wrote in message
...
snip
Numerious other useful facts might be provided if you could provide
then necessary measurements or access. Some facts may have already
been provided. But too much information is scattered among other
posts that recommend nonsense - such as a defective BIOS. If s BIOS
is corrupted, then BIOS completely crashes the computer. Anyone with
basic programming knowledge would have known that.
snip


Tom,

I suggest you re-read this thread, as you have clearly mis-read what has been
suggested in the replies. Nowhere did *anyone* replying EVER suggest that the BIOS
was defective. The original poster, Rich, ASKED if there could be "a problem with
the bios that is causing a problem with the mouse." The replies he received from
J.P., Jeff, and myself all stated that the only part the BIOS would play is if there
is a setting in that BIOS to disable the PS/2 port, and if it was in fact disabled
there. No other reference to a damaged or corrupted BIOS was made in this thread.

In fact, I specifically stated in my reply to Rich:
quote
"If there is any sort of electrical damage to the BIOS, I doubt you would *only* be
seeing a picky mouse port, and I doubt the mouse port would even be affected.
There'd be far worse symptoms, like not being able to boot. A damaged BIOS chip
could only be replaced....not something you would do yourself and likely this older
system would not have a ready replacement available."
/quote

The only other reference to the BIOS was in response to Rich's query mentioned
above, where I also stated (and accurately) that an electrical surge could have
changed settings in the BIOS. I have seen this occur more than once. It is
possible, whether you choose to believe it or not, for a small surge to cause
changes in BIOS settings without damaging or totally corrupting the BIOS, and
without making the system unbootable. No one has made any statements here
suggesting that the BIOS was damaged, except for you.

There was no "nonsense" recommended in any of the replies, and I am frankly a bit
tired of seeing so many of your replies in these groups start off with attacks on
the replies of others, especially when your own statements are inaccurate. It is a
pattern you have followed literally for years in these groups.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

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Old February 6th 09, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
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On Feb 5, 8:38 pm, "glee" wrote:
I suggest you re-read this thread, as you have clearly mis-read what has been
suggested in the replies. Nowhere did *anyone* replying EVER suggest that the BIOS
was defective.


I saw your responsible reply discussing BIOS chip replacement.
Flashing the BIOS is too common from those computer techs no
electrical knowledge. Those others again got their myths into this
discussion. If the BIOS had changed, then a computer typically would
not even boot. Meanwhile, your last reply dilutes that point. I
don't know all the suggestions due to speculation of BIOS failures and
other nonsense.

Suggested was one explaination per the OP's symptoms. Suggested was
one test to locate that possible failure. If true, the symptoms are
explained by a simple fuse failure. Do all symptoms agree? I don't
know. No reason to wade through them since the OP has decided to
trash an 11 year old computer.

Meanwhile, this again demonstrates why more responsible computer
manufacturers provide those comprehensive hardware diagnostics for
free. Another important point that should not be diluted by 'flashing
the BIOS' solutions.
  #45  
Old February 6th 09, 08:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
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On Feb 5, 8:38 pm, "glee" wrote:
I suggest you re-read this thread, as you have clearly mis-read what has been
suggested in the replies. Nowhere did *anyone* replying EVER suggest that the BIOS
was defective.


I saw your responsible reply discussing BIOS chip replacement.
Flashing the BIOS is too common from those computer techs no
electrical knowledge. Those others again got their myths into this
discussion. If the BIOS had changed, then a computer typically would
not even boot. Meanwhile, your last reply dilutes that point. I
don't know all the suggestions due to speculation of BIOS failures and
other nonsense.

Suggested was one explaination per the OP's symptoms. Suggested was
one test to locate that possible failure. If true, the symptoms are
explained by a simple fuse failure. Do all symptoms agree? I don't
know. No reason to wade through them since the OP has decided to
trash an 11 year old computer.

Meanwhile, this again demonstrates why more responsible computer
manufacturers provide those comprehensive hardware diagnostics for
free. Another important point that should not be diluted by 'flashing
the BIOS' solutions.
 




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