Windows Me+Partitions

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a new
partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there operating
with all our files on one partition, not because we want to be
irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better. Accordingly, I
would be most interested in detailed instructions on how to proceed and what
additional software is required. Also I would assume that if it's
recommended for Me, it also must be for other operating systems, including
XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated by
more than a few.

Dan
The only extra software required is a partition manager - assuming you don't
want to start again from a bare hard drive and use fdisk/format.
Personally, I use BooItNG (BING for short) from www.bootitng.com or
www.terabyteunlimited.com
I used also to recommend Partition Magic (despite its higher price) but that
has now been bought by Symantec, and I refuse to recommend their products!

using a partition manager (or at least a decent one) allows you to adjust
partition sizes while still retaining data on the system (backups are
essential though, as things can go wrong!) - FDSIK can't do that!
everyone has their own partition scheme - in my XP system here, I use 10
partitions (on 2 drives), for various things -it's really up to you how to
split them.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a new
partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there operating
with all our files on one partition, not because we want to be
irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better. Accordingly, I
would be most interested in detailed instructions on how to proceed and
what additional software is required. Also I would assume that if it's
recommended for Me, it also must be for other operating systems, including
XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated by
more than a few.

... if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

IMO, yes.

Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required.

No special software is required but much customisation is made easier
using TweakUI (see below).

OE Message Store. Relocate using OE | Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder.
My Documents. Relocate by right clicking on My Documents, either In
Windows Explorer or the Desktop, select Properties, and on the Target tab
you will find the option to change the target folder (including it's name)
and location.
TMP and TEMP objects. Edit Autoexec.bat using a text editor such as
notepad and change the target from C:\Windows\Temp to your new location
TIF (Temporary Internet Files). Relocate using Control Panel | Internet
Options | General | Settings where you will find a "Move Folder" button.
Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Photos, My Videos. Relocate using
TweakUI. On the My Computer tab you will find a section "Special
Folders". Note do NOT have two different special folders pointing to the
same location.
Address Book. This requires using Regedit (Start | Run | type Regedit in
the box and click OK. Browse in the left hand pane to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4\Wab File Name
and then in the right hand pane, double click the key (Default) and amend
the data to the new location of the address book.
SwapFile (win386.swp). System Properties | Performance | Virtual Memory.
Click "let me specify my own virtual memory settings, Change the drive
using the drop down box and click OK. Reboot. Repeat but now click "Let
windows manage my virtual memory settings" and reboot. Win Me is now
managing your VM but the swap file is now located on the drive you chose.

Additional customisation is possible but this should be enough to be
getting on with for the moment. vbg

Notes on TweakUI.
If you haven't got TweakUI the Win Me compatible version (1.33) can be
downloaded from Microsoft
(http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati.../nttweakui.asp)
and installed as follows:

Download to a folder with a short name (e.g. C:\Tweak), run to extract
components, right click on tweakui.inf and then install, close the help
window that comes up to allow install to finish. C:\Tweak can now be
deleted and TweakUI accessed via the Control Panel.

Just a few words of caution if you are new to using TweakUI on Win Me.
a) Do not change the first icon (My Documents) on the Desktop tab.
Doing this causes a number of script errors in Special Folders when using
either WebView or Active desktop.
b) Do not uncheck "Search Results" on the Desktop tab.
Doing this disables the Search in Explorer.
c) Do not hide the TweakUI icon on the Control Panel tab.
d) Do not uncheck "Show Control Panel on Start Menu" on the IE tab.
Doing this will prevent you from accessing the Control Panel including
TweakUI.
e) Do not uncheck "Shell Enhancements" on the IE tab.
This causes quite a few unexpected "problems".
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a
new partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there
operating with all our files on one partition, not because we want to
be irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better.
Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required. Also I would
assume that if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated
by more than a few.

Thanks for responding so quickly, Noel & Mike.

Noel, I visited the sites you referred me to and I'm not sure I read it
correctly, but it appears that BootItNG is available free of charge and it
does both the partitioning and the disk image. If so, it's unbelievable!
However I will return to the sites and read up on it this evening.

Mike, thanks for the details. I'd like to read up on it a bit further too
and put my ducks in order, so that I can come back and ask intelligent
questions before proceeding. I suspect this may be a double edged prong;
create a partition for day/day operations and maybe a partition for disk
imaging.

I'll be back.

Dan

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
... if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

IMO, yes.

Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required.

No special software is required but much customisation is made easier
using TweakUI (see below).

OE Message Store. Relocate using OE | Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder.
My Documents. Relocate by right clicking on My Documents, either In
Windows Explorer or the Desktop, select Properties, and on the Target tab
you will find the option to change the target folder (including it's name)
and location.
TMP and TEMP objects. Edit Autoexec.bat using a text editor such as
notepad and change the target from C:\Windows\Temp to your new location
TIF (Temporary Internet Files). Relocate using Control Panel | Internet
Options | General | Settings where you will find a "Move Folder" button.
Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Photos, My Videos. Relocate using
TweakUI. On the My Computer tab you will find a section "Special
Folders". Note do NOT have two different special folders pointing to the
same location.
Address Book. This requires using Regedit (Start | Run | type Regedit in
the box and click OK. Browse in the left hand pane to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4\Wab File Name
and then in the right hand pane, double click the key (Default) and amend
the data to the new location of the address book.
SwapFile (win386.swp). System Properties | Performance | Virtual Memory.
Click "let me specify my own virtual memory settings, Change the drive
using the drop down box and click OK. Reboot. Repeat but now click "Let
windows manage my virtual memory settings" and reboot. Win Me is now
managing your VM but the swap file is now located on the drive you chose.

Additional customisation is possible but this should be enough to be
getting on with for the moment. vbg

Notes on TweakUI.
If you haven't got TweakUI the Win Me compatible version (1.33) can be
downloaded from Microsoft
(http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati.../nttweakui.asp)
and installed as follows:

Download to a folder with a short name (e.g. C:\Tweak), run to extract
components, right click on tweakui.inf and then install, close the help
window that comes up to allow install to finish. C:\Tweak can now be
deleted and TweakUI accessed via the Control Panel.

Just a few words of caution if you are new to using TweakUI on Win Me.
a) Do not change the first icon (My Documents) on the Desktop tab.
Doing this causes a number of script errors in Special Folders when using
either WebView or Active desktop.
b) Do not uncheck "Search Results" on the Desktop tab.
Doing this disables the Search in Explorer.
c) Do not hide the TweakUI icon on the Control Panel tab.
d) Do not uncheck "Show Control Panel on Start Menu" on the IE tab.
Doing this will prevent you from accessing the Control Panel including
TweakUI.
e) Do not uncheck "Shell Enhancements" on the IE tab.
This causes quite a few unexpected "problems".
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a
new partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there
operating with all our files on one partition, not because we want to
be irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better.
Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required. Also I would
assume that if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated
by more than a few.

BootItNG is available as a trial version for 30-day trials (fully
functional) - after that you have to pay for it.
However - if you can't get your system sorted to your satisfaction within 30
days, then you have a problem! g


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding so quickly, Noel & Mike.

Noel, I visited the sites you referred me to and I'm not sure I read it
correctly, but it appears that BootItNG is available free of charge and it
does both the partitioning and the disk image. If so, it's unbelievable!
However I will return to the sites and read up on it this evening.

Mike, thanks for the details. I'd like to read up on it a bit further too
and put my ducks in order, so that I can come back and ask intelligent
questions before proceeding. I suspect this may be a double edged prong;
create a partition for day/day operations and maybe a partition for disk
imaging.

I'll be back.

Dan

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
... if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

IMO, yes.

Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required.

No special software is required but much customisation is made easier
using TweakUI (see below).

OE Message Store. Relocate using OE | Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder.
My Documents. Relocate by right clicking on My Documents, either In
Windows Explorer or the Desktop, select Properties, and on the Target tab
you will find the option to change the target folder (including it's
name) and location.
TMP and TEMP objects. Edit Autoexec.bat using a text editor such as
notepad and change the target from C:\Windows\Temp to your new location
TIF (Temporary Internet Files). Relocate using Control Panel | Internet
Options | General | Settings where you will find a "Move Folder" button.
Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Photos, My Videos. Relocate using
TweakUI. On the My Computer tab you will find a section "Special
Folders". Note do NOT have two different special folders pointing to the
same location.
Address Book. This requires using Regedit (Start | Run | type Regedit in
the box and click OK. Browse in the left hand pane to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4\Wab File Name
and then in the right hand pane, double click the key (Default) and amend
the data to the new location of the address book.
SwapFile (win386.swp). System Properties | Performance | Virtual Memory.
Click "let me specify my own virtual memory settings, Change the drive
using the drop down box and click OK. Reboot. Repeat but now click "Let
windows manage my virtual memory settings" and reboot. Win Me is now
managing your VM but the swap file is now located on the drive you chose.

Additional customisation is possible but this should be enough to be
getting on with for the moment. vbg

Notes on TweakUI.
If you haven't got TweakUI the Win Me compatible version (1.33) can be
downloaded from Microsoft
(http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati.../nttweakui.asp)
and installed as follows:

Download to a folder with a short name (e.g. C:\Tweak), run to extract
components, right click on tweakui.inf and then install, close the help
window that comes up to allow install to finish. C:\Tweak can now be
deleted and TweakUI accessed via the Control Panel.

Just a few words of caution if you are new to using TweakUI on Win Me.
a) Do not change the first icon (My Documents) on the Desktop tab.
Doing this causes a number of script errors in Special Folders when using
either WebView or Active desktop.
b) Do not uncheck "Search Results" on the Desktop tab.
Doing this disables the Search in Explorer.
c) Do not hide the TweakUI icon on the Control Panel tab.
d) Do not uncheck "Show Control Panel on Start Menu" on the IE tab.
Doing this will prevent you from accessing the Control Panel including
TweakUI.
e) Do not uncheck "Shell Enhancements" on the IE tab.
This causes quite a few unexpected "problems".
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a
new partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there
operating with all our files on one partition, not because we want to
be irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better.
Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required. Also I would
assume that if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated
by more than a few.

Gentlemen

Did a bit more research, and as Noel subsequently revealed, BootItNG is
indeed free on a fully functional 30 day trial basis. And as he also
indicated,
if I can't get everything sorted out in 30 days, then I may be in a lot
deeper than I thought not so VBG.

Mike, with respect to your recommendations, here are my questions;

*You discuss 7 items (OE Message Store/My Documents etc etc). Does this
imply 7 separate partitions or are they all grouped into a single partition?
*If the answer to the above is only one additional partition, is there a
specific location for some of these in the newly created partition, i.e.
should Swapfile be placed at the beginning, or does it matter?
*Again, assuming the answer to the first question is one partition for the
whole group, does it make sense to create a special partition for Backups
(for imaging)?
*On my Me computer (Compaq), I have one harddrive and two partitions, C&D.
I'm not sure of this but I believe the D partition simply holds the recovery
system. If I repartition C into several partitions, what should I do with D?
Add to it or ignore it?
*My new XP computer is huge, by my standards, at 250 GB. I'd like to
partition at least 150 GB, if not more, for future use, simply because I
just don't need that much. Does that make any sense? (BTW my old desktop has
an 8 GB HDD of which, after 5 years, 4 GB remain free and the laptop has a10
GB HDD of
which 6 GB are free, so as you can see I really don't need a huge capacity).

I think that's enough to get me going. Depending on your answers, I'll be
ready to start doing something tomorrow. I just replaced my old Win 98SE
computer, but it's still hooked up, so I'm ready to experiment with it and
go from there.

Thanks to both of you for your continued support.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
BootItNG is available as a trial version for 30-day trials (fully
functional) - after that you have to pay for it.
However - if you can't get your system sorted to your satisfaction within
30 days, then you have a problem! g


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding so quickly, Noel & Mike.

Noel, I visited the sites you referred me to and I'm not sure I read it
correctly, but it appears that BootItNG is available free of charge and
it does both the partitioning and the disk image. If so, it's
unbelievable! However I will return to the sites and read up on it this
evening.

Mike, thanks for the details. I'd like to read up on it a bit further too
and put my ducks in order, so that I can come back and ask intelligent
questions before proceeding. I suspect this may be a double edged prong;
create a partition for day/day operations and maybe a partition for disk
imaging.

I'll be back.

Dan

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
... if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

IMO, yes.

Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required.

No special software is required but much customisation is made easier
using TweakUI (see below).

OE Message Store. Relocate using OE | Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder.
My Documents. Relocate by right clicking on My Documents, either In
Windows Explorer or the Desktop, select Properties, and on the Target
tab you will find the option to change the target folder (including it's
name) and location.
TMP and TEMP objects. Edit Autoexec.bat using a text editor such as
notepad and change the target from C:\Windows\Temp to your new location
TIF (Temporary Internet Files). Relocate using Control Panel | Internet
Options | General | Settings where you will find a "Move Folder" button.
Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Photos, My Videos. Relocate using
TweakUI. On the My Computer tab you will find a section "Special
Folders". Note do NOT have two different special folders pointing to
the same location.
Address Book. This requires using Regedit (Start | Run | type Regedit
in the box and click OK. Browse in the left hand pane to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4\Wab File Name
and then in the right hand pane, double click the key (Default) and
amend the data to the new location of the address book.
SwapFile (win386.swp). System Properties | Performance | Virtual
Memory. Click "let me specify my own virtual memory settings, Change the
drive using the drop down box and click OK. Reboot. Repeat but now
click "Let windows manage my virtual memory settings" and reboot. Win
Me is now managing your VM but the swap file is now located on the drive
you chose.

Additional customisation is possible but this should be enough to be
getting on with for the moment. vbg

Notes on TweakUI.
If you haven't got TweakUI the Win Me compatible version (1.33) can be
downloaded from Microsoft
(http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati.../nttweakui.asp)
and installed as follows:

Download to a folder with a short name (e.g. C:\Tweak), run to extract
components, right click on tweakui.inf and then install, close the help
window that comes up to allow install to finish. C:\Tweak can now be
deleted and TweakUI accessed via the Control Panel.

Just a few words of caution if you are new to using TweakUI on Win Me.
a) Do not change the first icon (My Documents) on the Desktop tab.
Doing this causes a number of script errors in Special Folders when
using
either WebView or Active desktop.
b) Do not uncheck "Search Results" on the Desktop tab.
Doing this disables the Search in Explorer.
c) Do not hide the TweakUI icon on the Control Panel tab.
d) Do not uncheck "Show Control Panel on Start Menu" on the IE tab.
Doing this will prevent you from accessing the Control Panel including
TweakUI.
e) Do not uncheck "Shell Enhancements" on the IE tab.
This causes quite a few unexpected "problems".
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a
new partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there
operating with all our files on one partition, not because we want to
be irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better.
Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required. Also I would
assume that if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated
by more than a few.

*You discuss 7 items (OE Message Store/My Documents etc etc). Does
this imply 7 separate partitions or are they all grouped into a
single partition?

No, not separate partitions for each although there is some logic in
having more than one. For example on my systems, all of which have two or
more hard disks, I have what I call a scratch volume at the beginning of
the second drive which contains the swap file, TIF and TEMP and TMP
objects. One of my systems contains my music archive and on that system
the files are in a dedicated music partition.

You may want to have a look at Jim Eshelman's article on partition
planning at http://aumha.org/a/parts.htm. Personally I find his
suggestions somewhat excessive such as dividing an 80GB drive into 8
partitions.

How you choose to partition your drives very much depends on how the
system is used. To conclude I will set out the layout I use on this PC.
Note I use BING and have all system partitions hidden other than the one
being used at the time thus these are always C:

HD0 (80GB)
1) 8MB BING (Yes, 8MB)
2) 8GB C: XP Pro SP2
3) 8GB C: System Test partition
4) 60GB E: Datastore (contains My Docs, Favourites, Message Store, etc,
etc,)
HD1 (200GB)
1) 8GB D: Temp (containing swapfile, TIF and Temp objects)
2) 95GB F: Archive (containing system images, backups of message store and
Office documents)
3) 90GB G: Music
HD2 (250GB)
1) 234GB H: Videostore

As you might gather this PC is primarily used for multimedia work,
capturing, encoding and authoring. For various reasons I don't install my
programs to a different partition than the system partition with the
exception of three data heavy applications which are installed to E:
(Mappoint n.America and Europe & TechNet Knowledge Base which together
total 3GB).

Best of luck with your experiments.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Gentlemen

Did a bit more research, and as Noel subsequently revealed, BootItNG
is indeed free on a fully functional 30 day trial basis. And as he
also indicated,
if I can't get everything sorted out in 30 days, then I may be in a
lot deeper than I thought not so VBG.

Mike, with respect to your recommendations, here are my questions;

*You discuss 7 items (OE Message Store/My Documents etc etc). Does
this imply 7 separate partitions or are they all grouped into a
single partition? *If the answer to the above is only one additional
partition, is there a specific location for some of these in the
newly created partition, i.e. should Swapfile be placed at the
beginning, or does it matter? *Again, assuming the answer to the
first question is one partition for the whole group, does it make
sense to create a special partition for Backups (for imaging)?
*On my Me computer (Compaq), I have one harddrive and two partitions,
C&D. I'm not sure of this but I believe the D partition simply holds
the recovery system. If I repartition C into several partitions, what
should I do with D? Add to it or ignore it?
*My new XP computer is huge, by my standards, at 250 GB. I'd like to
partition at least 150 GB, if not more, for future use, simply
because I just don't need that much. Does that make any sense? (BTW
my old desktop has an 8 GB HDD of which, after 5 years, 4 GB remain
free and the laptop has a10 GB HDD of
which 6 GB are free, so as you can see I really don't need a huge
capacity).
I think that's enough to get me going. Depending on your answers,
I'll be ready to start doing something tomorrow. I just replaced my
old Win 98SE computer, but it's still hooked up, so I'm ready to
experiment with it and go from there.

Thanks to both of you for your continued support.

Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and Getting
Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more geeky than I would
have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I will understand any more
than I do now. In the meantime, just a couple of questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my computers, I do not
want to enable more than 4 primary partitions. Or will that even come up,
given that I am only adding a partition(s)
*Do I want the partitions chosen for me
*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition
*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Dan


"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Gentlemen

Did a bit more research, and as Noel subsequently revealed, BootItNG is
indeed free on a fully functional 30 day trial basis. And as he also
indicated,
if I can't get everything sorted out in 30 days, then I may be in a lot
deeper than I thought not so VBG.

Mike, with respect to your recommendations, here are my questions;

*You discuss 7 items (OE Message Store/My Documents etc etc). Does this
imply 7 separate partitions or are they all grouped into a single
partition?
*If the answer to the above is only one additional partition, is there a
specific location for some of these in the newly created partition, i.e.
should Swapfile be placed at the beginning, or does it matter?
*Again, assuming the answer to the first question is one partition for the
whole group, does it make sense to create a special partition for Backups
(for imaging)?
*On my Me computer (Compaq), I have one harddrive and two partitions, C&D.
I'm not sure of this but I believe the D partition simply holds the
recovery
system. If I repartition C into several partitions, what should I do with
D?
Add to it or ignore it?
*My new XP computer is huge, by my standards, at 250 GB. I'd like to
partition at least 150 GB, if not more, for future use, simply because I
just don't need that much. Does that make any sense? (BTW my old desktop
has
an 8 GB HDD of which, after 5 years, 4 GB remain free and the laptop has
a10 GB HDD of
which 6 GB are free, so as you can see I really don't need a huge
capacity).

I think that's enough to get me going. Depending on your answers, I'll be
ready to start doing something tomorrow. I just replaced my old Win 98SE
computer, but it's still hooked up, so I'm ready to experiment with it and
go from there.

Thanks to both of you for your continued support.

Dan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
BootItNG is available as a trial version for 30-day trials (fully
functional) - after that you have to pay for it.
However - if you can't get your system sorted to your satisfaction within
30 days, then you have a problem! g


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"Dapper Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks for responding so quickly, Noel & Mike.

Noel, I visited the sites you referred me to and I'm not sure I read it
correctly, but it appears that BootItNG is available free of charge and
it does both the partitioning and the disk image. If so, it's
unbelievable! However I will return to the sites and read up on it this
evening.

Mike, thanks for the details. I'd like to read up on it a bit further
too
and put my ducks in order, so that I can come back and ask intelligent
questions before proceeding. I suspect this may be a double edged prong;
create a partition for day/day operations and maybe a partition for disk
imaging.

I'll be back.

Dan

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
... if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

IMO, yes.

Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required.

No special software is required but much customisation is made easier
using TweakUI (see below).

OE Message Store. Relocate using OE | Tools | Options | Maintenance |
Store Folder.
My Documents. Relocate by right clicking on My Documents, either In
Windows Explorer or the Desktop, select Properties, and on the Target
tab you will find the option to change the target folder (including
it's
name) and location.
TMP and TEMP objects. Edit Autoexec.bat using a text editor such as
notepad and change the target from C:\Windows\Temp to your new location
TIF (Temporary Internet Files). Relocate using Control Panel |
Internet
Options | General | Settings where you will find a "Move Folder"
button.
Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Photos, My Videos. Relocate using
TweakUI. On the My Computer tab you will find a section "Special
Folders". Note do NOT have two different special folders pointing to
the same location.
Address Book. This requires using Regedit (Start | Run | type Regedit
in the box and click OK. Browse in the left hand pane to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WAB\WAB4\Wab File Name
and then in the right hand pane, double click the key (Default) and
amend the data to the new location of the address book.
SwapFile (win386.swp). System Properties | Performance | Virtual
Memory. Click "let me specify my own virtual memory settings, Change
the
drive using the drop down box and click OK. Reboot. Repeat but now
click "Let windows manage my virtual memory settings" and reboot. Win
Me is now managing your VM but the swap file is now located on the
drive
you chose.

Additional customisation is possible but this should be enough to be
getting on with for the moment. vbg

Notes on TweakUI.
If you haven't got TweakUI the Win Me compatible version (1.33) can be
downloaded from Microsoft
(http://www.microsoft.com/ntworkstati.../nttweakui.asp)
and installed as follows:

Download to a folder with a short name (e.g. C:\Tweak), run to extract
components, right click on tweakui.inf and then install, close the help
window that comes up to allow install to finish. C:\Tweak can now be
deleted and TweakUI accessed via the Control Panel.

Just a few words of caution if you are new to using TweakUI on Win Me.
a) Do not change the first icon (My Documents) on the Desktop tab.
Doing this causes a number of script errors in Special Folders when
using
either WebView or Active desktop.
b) Do not uncheck "Search Results" on the Desktop tab.
Doing this disables the Search in Explorer.
c) Do not hide the TweakUI icon on the Control Panel tab.
d) Do not uncheck "Show Control Panel on Start Menu" on the IE tab.
Doing this will prevent you from accessing the Control Panel including
TweakUI.
e) Do not uncheck "Shell Enhancements" on the IE tab.
This causes quite a few unexpected "problems".
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

I have been reading the thread How Much Space for Windows Me and the
recommendations to move My Documents and certain other folders to a
new partition. It would appear that there may be many of us out there
operating with all our files on one partition, not because we want to
be irresponsible, but rather because we don't know any better.
Accordingly, I would be most interested in detailed instructions on
how to proceed and what additional software is required. Also I would
assume that if it's recommended for Me, it also must be for other
operating systems, including XP?

If one of you should be so kind, I'm confident it will be appreciated
by more than a few.

Dan.

If you aren't multi-booting then you don't need to install BING. Just use
it to partition your hard disk. Since you won't multi-boot you won't need
more than four primaries, remembering always if required that one of those
can be an extended partition containing multiple volumes.
--
Mike Maltby



Dapper Dan wrote:

Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and
Getting Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more
geeky than I would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I
will understand any more than I do now. In the meantime, just a
couple of questions, if I may. *I assume, with only one Operating
System on each of my computers, I do not want to enable more than 4
primary partitions. Or will that even come up, given that I am only
adding a partition(s) *Do I want the partitions chosen for me
*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition
*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Dan
I see that Mike has already addressed fairly comprehensively (as is usual
for Mike! g) - so I'll try these ones...answers inline
I've assumed that you are modifying a current installation, throughout - if
you're intending to start afresh, then things are easier!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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Noel

As I await Mike's feedback, I downloaded the Bing Installation and Getting
Started Guide. For lack of a better word, it's a bit more geeky than I
would have preferred. I'll reread it but doubt that I will understand any
more than I do now. In the meantime, just a couple of questions, if I may.
*I assume, with only one Operating System on each of my computers, I do
not want to enable more than 4 primary partitions. Or will that even come
up, given that I am only adding a partition(s)

There's no need to install BING at all (especially if you;'re only testing
it) - it works just as well from the floppy boot (just hit Cancel when asked
to install, and it goes into 'Maintenance Mode' - which is exactly the same
as the installed version)
You shouldn't need more than one Primary partition - plus the Extended
partition for the Logical drives that hold your data

*Do I want the partitions chosen for me

No - you'll first have to resize the existing drive/partition to a suitable
size, and then create an extended partition for the rest of the drive -
then create suitable Logical Drives within that partition

*Do I want to install Bootitng on its own partition

Not if you don't want to pay for it! g - you don't want to install it at
all, in that case!

*Do I want to format the new partition(s)

Yes - FAT32 format for Win ME