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I'm sorry that you seem to be having some difficulty following my
recommendations. You stated in your previous post that :- Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). My reply included the url address which I posted as the result of a search on the HP web site for the "6735 Pavilion" - the model you mentioned in you original post - and specifically for information regarding aspects regarding the disabling of the on-board Video for that model, to support both Rick T and my and recommendation. Now if HP (and Compaq) offer the advice shown on their page with regard to their own computers, then who am I to argue? I would remind you that they (HP and Compaq) state :- "Many HP and Compaq PCs have video on the motherboard. Check the specifications of your model to determine if you have a video card as onboard video should be disabled in the BIOS to avoid installation issues on some models." A statement which clearly applies to your own diagnostics viz :- 'on-board video' and 'installation issues' However, if you have an issue with their further statement (Step 5:,item 2) viz :- "If your PC was using on-board video (no video card), then disable on-board video in the BIOS to prevent possible setup problems: a. Press the F1 key repeatedly when the first screen appears. A BIOS setup screen displays b. Use the directions on the page to find and disable on-board video. This setting is usually on the Advanced page. c. Press F10 to save the settings and exit." then I would suggest that take the matter up with HP rather than me. Further, I have never referred to 'video shadow rom' in any of my previous responses and so I don't understand why you implied that I was referring to it in this discussion. Regarding the url which you have posted in your reply. It would appear to be either broken or dead, so again, you should take it up with HP if you still have an issue. I'm sorry but I cannot help you any further, as your machine no longer appears to match HP's own specifications. I am pleased therefore, that you have now found a satisfactory (for you) solution, but note that you are still seeing two instances of adapters in Device Manager. So long as you are now happy with this state of affairs, then that's fine with me. Good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message ... I requested assistance and I appreciate the offers however; even with an educated grasp of the English language I am having great difficulty associating your recommendations with the reality I am seeing and dealing with here. I told what is in this cmos and what the choices are, one toggle PCI or AGP no enable/disable, no on/off I hope you are not referring to the video shadow rom as a means of enabling/disabling onboard graphics. I have RTFM, what little there is to it and as of Dec 2002 the instruction for installing/removing a video card for my machine was/is located at this address http://www.hp.com/cgi-bin/cposupport...h06273&Smplr=Y On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:08:52 +0100, "Mart" wrote: I did a trawl thru' the HP site for your Pavilion 6735 and came up with this page :- http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/f...name=c00007413 See especially Step 5:, item 2 which details how to disable the on-board video in your BIOS. Hopefully that will resolve the issue. HTH and good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message . .. Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). Bought Pavilion new, HP do/did not come with (detailed tech) manual, ie: cmos settings/functions etc. Used the HP website instructions to install a video card which were A) Reinstall i810 drivers to be sure all are present and working. B) Change display adapter to standard VGA. C) Uninstall i810 package using add/remove programs. D) Restart, new hardware detected etc. Like I said, my best guess at anything else graphics related was the intel 82810 system & graphics controller under system devices in dev mgr which is (now) still disabled in this cfg. On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:52:55 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Assuming that - as you alluded in a previous reply - you really do have on-board video, then as Rick has stated in his post "There should be another setting somewhere where you can disable the on-board if you want to." What does your User Manual say on this subject? If you are not sure what hardware is connected to your PC, then try running Belkin Advisor (freeware) from :- http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html It will give an audit of your PC which includes a section on your Display hardware. Just a thought, in your original post you said "After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card" Just what were you using before you installed your new graphics card - and did you remove and/or disable the old one? Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message m... Disable is NOT an option, choices in CMOS for graphics adapter are PCI or AGP. There is no AGP slot and selecting AGP requires a CMOS reset to restart the machine. I have since installed a 3DFX Voodoo3/2000 PCI adapter which has resolved the Diablo2 latency problem and removes the Nvidia S-video plug and I continue to get the new hardware found (PCI vga-compatible adapter) on restart. Mulling over your suggestion of must be disabled (I agree), I removed the Intel 82810 system & graphics controller fron the systems devices list, restart, found new hardare, cancel, and the 82xxx is back in dev mgr. disabled it, restarted, found new hardware. If I let windows search for a driver it finds none then lists it as unknown device in dev mgr with a yellow question mark. Thanks On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:11:57 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Until or unless you confirm that you have DISABLED the on-board graphics in the BIOS, the rest of your posting is irrelevant. It's no use just 'uninstalling' it in Device Manager - it MUST be disabled in the BIOS!!! Otherwise you are wasting both you own time and our time. If you are not sure how to do this, then either RTFM (Read The Flipping Manual - polite version!) or take your PC to a local repair shop and get them to check it for you. Mart "fastlane" wrote in message news0be511o3ot6u3kjhe7n3kgqk9giv6lc65@4ax. com... Following is definitely graphics related but no way (yet) to determine if related to 2nd device innstalled. A couple of weeks ago I discovered a major problem with Diablo2, the right side of display would blink as well as the bottom (an obverse L). I had installed the latest drivers from the reseller however' there are later drives available from Nvidia so I installed them and it fixed the blinking problem but I still cannot play online because of some latency/lag problem (ping=4K+ at times in game) which has nothing to do with my ISP, comm soft/hardware etc BECAUSE I just installed D2 on an inferior Dell machine, used the same modem, ISP, everything but mobo and graphics and my game connection is normal. On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:37:03 -0700, TheRealFastlane wrote: Both are an annoyance, the 2nd monitor is installed and enabled in dev mgr, the PCI vga grahpics I have disabled and dont understand as the only connected PCI device is the Nvidia which has vga/svga, dvi and S ports (dont know if its in or out). "Mike M" wrote: What exactly are the problems you are experiencing? Rather than disabling the second connection each time you boot what happens if you simply ignore the second monitor which is probably the s-video port on your graphics card? Whilst I don't have an nVidia card I have ATI cards on my PCs that have multiple connectors supporting multiple monitors and once installed have no further problems. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP TheRealFastlane wrote: Major Annoyance After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card in my 6735 Pavilion (latest drivers installed), at every restart, I get new hardware detected and windows insists on installing a default monitor AND a PCI VGA-compatible display adapter in addition to the installed NEC monitor and Nvidia card. The only way around this so far is to let it install these devices then disable them in device manager. Thanks -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue |
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TheRealFastlane wrote:
I told what is in this cmos and what the choices are, one toggle PCI or AGP no enable/disable, no on/off THAT IS *NOT* THE "DISABLE ON-BOARD GRAPHICS" TOGGLE. READ MY POST OR YOUR OWNER'S MANUAL. Rick |
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Yes Mike, there is an advanced page in cmos, this has the only
reference to video - Primary display adapter choice (PCI / AGP). Yes I visited the page he recommended however; although labeled for my model # refers to later models. I still have the url for my machine dated a couple years ago which is the one I referred to. On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:13:44 +0100, "Mike M" wrote: Do you have an Advanced tab/page visible when you enter the BIOS? Did you read the page to which Mart referred you? -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue |
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Mart, I apologize for venting at you.
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:09:05 +0100, "Mart" wrote: I'm sorry that you seem to be having some difficulty following my recommendations. You stated in your previous post that :- Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). My reply included the url address which I posted as the result of a search on the HP web site for the "6735 Pavilion" - the model you mentioned in you original post - and specifically for information regarding aspects regarding the disabling of the on-board Video for that model, to support both Rick T and my and recommendation. Now if HP (and Compaq) offer the advice shown on their page with regard to their own computers, then who am I to argue? I would remind you that they (HP and Compaq) state :- "Many HP and Compaq PCs have video on the motherboard. Check the specifications of your model to determine if you have a video card as onboard video should be disabled in the BIOS to avoid installation issues on some models." A statement which clearly applies to your own diagnostics viz :- 'on-board video' and 'installation issues' However, if you have an issue with their further statement (Step 5:,item 2) viz :- "If your PC was using on-board video (no video card), then disable on-board video in the BIOS to prevent possible setup problems: a. Press the F1 key repeatedly when the first screen appears. A BIOS setup screen displays b. Use the directions on the page to find and disable on-board video. This setting is usually on the Advanced page. c. Press F10 to save the settings and exit." then I would suggest that take the matter up with HP rather than me. Further, I have never referred to 'video shadow rom' in any of my previous responses and so I don't understand why you implied that I was referring to it in this discussion. Regarding the url which you have posted in your reply. It would appear to be either broken or dead, so again, you should take it up with HP if you still have an issue. I'm sorry but I cannot help you any further, as your machine no longer appears to match HP's own specifications. I am pleased therefore, that you have now found a satisfactory (for you) solution, but note that you are still seeing two instances of adapters in Device Manager. So long as you are now happy with this state of affairs, then that's fine with me. Good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message .. . I requested assistance and I appreciate the offers however; even with an educated grasp of the English language I am having great difficulty associating your recommendations with the reality I am seeing and dealing with here. I told what is in this cmos and what the choices are, one toggle PCI or AGP no enable/disable, no on/off I hope you are not referring to the video shadow rom as a means of enabling/disabling onboard graphics. I have RTFM, what little there is to it and as of Dec 2002 the instruction for installing/removing a video card for my machine was/is located at this address http://www.hp.com/cgi-bin/cposupport...h06273&Smplr=Y On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:08:52 +0100, "Mart" wrote: I did a trawl thru' the HP site for your Pavilion 6735 and came up with this page :- http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/f...name=c00007413 See especially Step 5:, item 2 which details how to disable the on-board video in your BIOS. Hopefully that will resolve the issue. HTH and good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message ... Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). Bought Pavilion new, HP do/did not come with (detailed tech) manual, ie: cmos settings/functions etc. Used the HP website instructions to install a video card which were A) Reinstall i810 drivers to be sure all are present and working. B) Change display adapter to standard VGA. C) Uninstall i810 package using add/remove programs. D) Restart, new hardware detected etc. Like I said, my best guess at anything else graphics related was the intel 82810 system & graphics controller under system devices in dev mgr which is (now) still disabled in this cfg. On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:52:55 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Assuming that - as you alluded in a previous reply - you really do have on-board video, then as Rick has stated in his post "There should be another setting somewhere where you can disable the on-board if you want to." What does your User Manual say on this subject? If you are not sure what hardware is connected to your PC, then try running Belkin Advisor (freeware) from :- http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html It will give an audit of your PC which includes a section on your Display hardware. Just a thought, in your original post you said "After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card" Just what were you using before you installed your new graphics card - and did you remove and/or disable the old one? Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message om... Disable is NOT an option, choices in CMOS for graphics adapter are PCI or AGP. There is no AGP slot and selecting AGP requires a CMOS reset to restart the machine. I have since installed a 3DFX Voodoo3/2000 PCI adapter which has resolved the Diablo2 latency problem and removes the Nvidia S-video plug and I continue to get the new hardware found (PCI vga-compatible adapter) on restart. Mulling over your suggestion of must be disabled (I agree), I removed the Intel 82810 system & graphics controller fron the systems devices list, restart, found new hardare, cancel, and the 82xxx is back in dev mgr. disabled it, restarted, found new hardware. If I let windows search for a driver it finds none then lists it as unknown device in dev mgr with a yellow question mark. Thanks On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:11:57 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Until or unless you confirm that you have DISABLED the on-board graphics in the BIOS, the rest of your posting is irrelevant. It's no use just 'uninstalling' it in Device Manager - it MUST be disabled in the BIOS!!! Otherwise you are wasting both you own time and our time. If you are not sure how to do this, then either RTFM (Read The Flipping Manual - polite version!) or take your PC to a local repair shop and get them to check it for you. Mart "fastlane" wrote in message news0be511o3ot6u3kjhe7n3kgqk9giv6lc65@4ax .com... Following is definitely graphics related but no way (yet) to determine if related to 2nd device innstalled. A couple of weeks ago I discovered a major problem with Diablo2, the right side of display would blink as well as the bottom (an obverse L). I had installed the latest drivers from the reseller however' there are later drives available from Nvidia so I installed them and it fixed the blinking problem but I still cannot play online because of some latency/lag problem (ping=4K+ at times in game) which has nothing to do with my ISP, comm soft/hardware etc BECAUSE I just installed D2 on an inferior Dell machine, used the same modem, ISP, everything but mobo and graphics and my game connection is normal. On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:37:03 -0700, TheRealFastlane wrote: Both are an annoyance, the 2nd monitor is installed and enabled in dev mgr, the PCI vga grahpics I have disabled and dont understand as the only connected PCI device is the Nvidia which has vga/svga, dvi and S ports (dont know if its in or out). "Mike M" wrote: What exactly are the problems you are experiencing? Rather than disabling the second connection each time you boot what happens if you simply ignore the second monitor which is probably the s-video port on your graphics card? Whilst I don't have an nVidia card I have ATI cards on my PCs that have multiple connectors supporting multiple monitors and once installed have no further problems. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP TheRealFastlane wrote: Major Annoyance After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card in my 6735 Pavilion (latest drivers installed), at every restart, I get new hardware detected and windows insists on installing a default monitor AND a PCI VGA-compatible display adapter in addition to the installed NEC monitor and Nvidia card. The only way around this so far is to let it install these devices then disable them in device manager. Thanks -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue |
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"TheRealFastlane" wrote :-
Mart, I apologize for venting at you. Accepted g In the meantime, a further search for model 6735 reveals this page :- http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/g...lc=en#N1001 B Maybe similar to the one to which you were referring? - Although there are no instructions for installing/removing a video card, it does refer to "Documentation - Pavillion User's Guide (on computer)" - presumably (still) contained on your Installation/Recovery CD's, if not on your HD g Just what did the (no longer available) Dec 2002 instructions say? Perhaps there is a link or strap on the motherboard required to disable the video controller or maybe this particular model was never even intended to use anything other than the on-board video device!! However, whilst WinMe can still see it - it will try to enumerate it - hence two devices and all the attendant issues. Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message ... Mart, I apologize for venting at you. On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:09:05 +0100, "Mart" wrote: I'm sorry that you seem to be having some difficulty following my recommendations. You stated in your previous post that :- Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). My reply included the url address which I posted as the result of a search on the HP web site for the "6735 Pavilion" - the model you mentioned in you original post - and specifically for information regarding aspects regarding the disabling of the on-board Video for that model, to support both Rick T and my and recommendation. Now if HP (and Compaq) offer the advice shown on their page with regard to their own computers, then who am I to argue? I would remind you that they (HP and Compaq) state :- "Many HP and Compaq PCs have video on the motherboard. Check the specifications of your model to determine if you have a video card as onboard video should be disabled in the BIOS to avoid installation issues on some models." A statement which clearly applies to your own diagnostics viz :- 'on-board video' and 'installation issues' However, if you have an issue with their further statement (Step 5:,item 2) viz :- "If your PC was using on-board video (no video card), then disable on-board video in the BIOS to prevent possible setup problems: a. Press the F1 key repeatedly when the first screen appears. A BIOS setup screen displays b. Use the directions on the page to find and disable on-board video. This setting is usually on the Advanced page. c. Press F10 to save the settings and exit." then I would suggest that take the matter up with HP rather than me. Further, I have never referred to 'video shadow rom' in any of my previous responses and so I don't understand why you implied that I was referring to it in this discussion. Regarding the url which you have posted in your reply. It would appear to be either broken or dead, so again, you should take it up with HP if you still have an issue. I'm sorry but I cannot help you any further, as your machine no longer appears to match HP's own specifications. I am pleased therefore, that you have now found a satisfactory (for you) solution, but note that you are still seeing two instances of adapters in Device Manager. So long as you are now happy with this state of affairs, then that's fine with me. Good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message . .. I requested assistance and I appreciate the offers however; even with an educated grasp of the English language I am having great difficulty associating your recommendations with the reality I am seeing and dealing with here. I told what is in this cmos and what the choices are, one toggle PCI or AGP no enable/disable, no on/off I hope you are not referring to the video shadow rom as a means of enabling/disabling onboard graphics. I have RTFM, what little there is to it and as of Dec 2002 the instruction for installing/removing a video card for my machine was/is located at this address http://www.hp.com/cgi-bin/cposupport...h06273&Smplr=Y On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 00:08:52 +0100, "Mart" wrote: I did a trawl thru' the HP site for your Pavilion 6735 and came up with this page :- http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/f...name=c00007413 See especially Step 5:, item 2 which details how to disable the on-board video in your BIOS. Hopefully that will resolve the issue. HTH and good luck Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message m... Before installing the GeForce card I was running the onboard Intel i810 graphics (cmos set to PCI). Bought Pavilion new, HP do/did not come with (detailed tech) manual, ie: cmos settings/functions etc. Used the HP website instructions to install a video card which were A) Reinstall i810 drivers to be sure all are present and working. B) Change display adapter to standard VGA. C) Uninstall i810 package using add/remove programs. D) Restart, new hardware detected etc. Like I said, my best guess at anything else graphics related was the intel 82810 system & graphics controller under system devices in dev mgr which is (now) still disabled in this cfg. On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:52:55 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Assuming that - as you alluded in a previous reply - you really do have on-board video, then as Rick has stated in his post "There should be another setting somewhere where you can disable the on-board if you want to." What does your User Manual say on this subject? If you are not sure what hardware is connected to your PC, then try running Belkin Advisor (freeware) from :- http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html It will give an audit of your PC which includes a section on your Display hardware. Just a thought, in your original post you said "After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card" Just what were you using before you installed your new graphics card - and did you remove and/or disable the old one? Mart "TheRealFastlane" wrote in message news:ton7611vlc2svvmen39bkqnv29a5ct9i3h@4ax. com... Disable is NOT an option, choices in CMOS for graphics adapter are PCI or AGP. There is no AGP slot and selecting AGP requires a CMOS reset to restart the machine. I have since installed a 3DFX Voodoo3/2000 PCI adapter which has resolved the Diablo2 latency problem and removes the Nvidia S-video plug and I continue to get the new hardware found (PCI vga-compatible adapter) on restart. Mulling over your suggestion of must be disabled (I agree), I removed the Intel 82810 system & graphics controller fron the systems devices list, restart, found new hardare, cancel, and the 82xxx is back in dev mgr. disabled it, restarted, found new hardware. If I let windows search for a driver it finds none then lists it as unknown device in dev mgr with a yellow question mark. Thanks On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:11:57 +0100, "Mart" wrote: Until or unless you confirm that you have DISABLED the on-board graphics in the BIOS, the rest of your posting is irrelevant. It's no use just 'uninstalling' it in Device Manager - it MUST be disabled in the BIOS!!! Otherwise you are wasting both you own time and our time. If you are not sure how to do this, then either RTFM (Read The Flipping Manual - polite version!) or take your PC to a local repair shop and get them to check it for you. Mart "fastlane" wrote in message news0be511o3ot6u3kjhe7n3kgqk9giv6lc65@4a x.com... Following is definitely graphics related but no way (yet) to determine if related to 2nd device innstalled. A couple of weeks ago I discovered a major problem with Diablo2, the right side of display would blink as well as the bottom (an obverse L). I had installed the latest drivers from the reseller however' there are later drives available from Nvidia so I installed them and it fixed the blinking problem but I still cannot play online because of some latency/lag problem (ping=4K+ at times in game) which has nothing to do with my ISP, comm soft/hardware etc BECAUSE I just installed D2 on an inferior Dell machine, used the same modem, ISP, everything but mobo and graphics and my game connection is normal. On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:37:03 -0700, TheRealFastlane wrote: Both are an annoyance, the 2nd monitor is installed and enabled in dev mgr, the PCI vga grahpics I have disabled and dont understand as the only connected PCI device is the Nvidia which has vga/svga, dvi and S ports (dont know if its in or out). "Mike M" wrote: What exactly are the problems you are experiencing? Rather than disabling the second connection each time you boot what happens if you simply ignore the second monitor which is probably the s-video port on your graphics card? Whilst I don't have an nVidia card I have ATI cards on my PCs that have multiple connectors supporting multiple monitors and once installed have no further problems. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP TheRealFastlane wrote: Major Annoyance After installing a (MadDog) Nvidia GeForce MX4000 PCI graphics card in my 6735 Pavilion (latest drivers installed), at every restart, I get new hardware detected and windows insists on installing a default monitor AND a PCI VGA-compatible display adapter in addition to the installed NEC monitor and Nvidia card. The only way around this so far is to let it install these devices then disable them in device manager. Thanks -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue -- Keyboard not detected Press F1 to continue |
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