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  #11  
Old February 27th 05, 11:20 PM
Heather
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Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I have
the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of Ron's
ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all, grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
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"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne to

do
her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer) HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never put

it
on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:
No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has

been on
this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather







  #12  
Old February 27th 05, 11:55 PM
Heather
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IIRC......she was working on each *cameo* from ancient photos and I think
she had a problem *saving them* in order to bring them back up and work on
them again. Two of them were photos from 1875, for example.

She did a wonderful job on restoring several century-old photos for our good
friend in Australia (Uncle Buzzy). He was just thrilled with her work and
made them into a PowerPoint Show He showed this as part of a family reunion
in Oz back in January.

And you should see the calendars she made us with the pictures she took in
the South of France....just amazing!!

Proud Mum....grin.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I

have
the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of

Ron's
ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all, grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne to

do
her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer)

HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never pu

t
it
on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know

whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:
No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It

has
been on
this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather








  #13  
Old February 28th 05, 12:52 AM
Fred S
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Sorry but PSP 8.0 does NOT require Net Framework. I have it, also had
ver 6, and use it for most of my editing of images.

I'm running WinXP Home.

Fred


ForestSpirit wrote:
PSP 8 or higher requires Net Framework 1.1.



"Heather" wrote in message
...
No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has been on
this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...

I didn't know that are you sure, I have PSP 7 on here and I had it when
I used WinME and never had to install .Net Framework.
Joan

ForestSpirit wrote:

If you ever want to use Paint Shop Pro, it requires that .Net Framework


1.1

be installed first.





  #14  
Old February 28th 05, 12:55 AM
Fred S
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Heather,

You have to save the image in PSP format to keep all of the layers. You
can also save another copy to any format which will merge the layers.
Maybe that was her problem.

Fred


Heather wrote:
Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I have
the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of Ron's
ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all, grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...

Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...

Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne to


do

her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer) HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never put


it

on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
. ..

Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:

No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has

been on

this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather





  #15  
Old February 28th 05, 06:16 AM
Heather
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Hi All.......

Talked to Elayne and she verified what it was. She was working on restoring
old photos and PSP will not allow her to *Save & Resurrect* (for lack of a
better word)....the layer that she is working on. She said it "flattened"
when she saved it.

IOW, she couldn't bring it up again to do more retouching. If I understand
her....and you....she didn't want to *merge* the layers.....she wanted to be
able to keep re-opening them individually to do further work. Photoshop
allows her to do this.....not PSP 7.2.

Thanks.....Heather (I didn't make myself clear at the beginning)

"Fred S" "Fred wrote in message
...
Heather,

You have to save the image in PSP format to keep all of the layers. You
can also save another copy to any format which will merge the layers.
Maybe that was her problem.

Fred


Heather wrote:
Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I

have
the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of

Ron's
ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all,

grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...

Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
...

Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne to


do

her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer) HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never put


it

on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
. ..

Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:

No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has

been on

this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather







  #16  
Old February 28th 05, 06:33 AM
Fred S
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Heather,

Yes, she made a mistake by not saving the edited work as the default,
which is PSP format. Any time you work with a file in PSP, especially
one with layers, it will automatically set the default format to PSP
when you save it.

If you CHANGE the format, say to JPG or BMP, etc., it will popup a
message warning that all your work will be merged. There are no layers
in a JPG or BMP file, so that's where she made the mistake.

PSP is very good and I'm sorry to hear that your friend had a problem
but it sure looks like she ignored the information that was critical.

Lastly, I had PSP 6 before and use PSP 8 now, this procedure and warning
was the same for both of those versions. You may want to pass this info
on to your friend for "next time."

Fred


Heather wrote:
Hi All.......

Talked to Elayne and she verified what it was. She was working on restoring
old photos and PSP will not allow her to *Save & Resurrect* (for lack of a
better word)....the layer that she is working on. She said it "flattened"
when she saved it.

IOW, she couldn't bring it up again to do more retouching. If I understand
her....and you....she didn't want to *merge* the layers.....she wanted to be
able to keep re-opening them individually to do further work. Photoshop
allows her to do this.....not PSP 7.2.

Thanks.....Heather (I didn't make myself clear at the beginning)

"Fred S" "Fred wrote in message
...

Heather,

You have to save the image in PSP format to keep all of the layers. You
can also save another copy to any format which will merge the layers.
Maybe that was her problem.

Fred


Heather wrote:

Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I


have

the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of


Ron's

ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all,


grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...


Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to


NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
.. .


Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne to

do


her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer) HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never put

it


on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
. ..


Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:


No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has

been on


this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather





  #17  
Old February 28th 05, 06:44 AM
Heather
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Thanks, Fred. It's my daughter and she is a graphic artist (Macs and
Photoshop, etc.)......so she was only using WinME & PSP for the one project
and cursing it. I will pass this on to her, but she only visits once a
year, so will probably forget. I will also save it in my folders.

Cheers.....Heather

"Fred S" "Fred wrote in message
...
Heather,

Yes, she made a mistake by not saving the edited work as the default,
which is PSP format. Any time you work with a file in PSP, especially
one with layers, it will automatically set the default format to PSP
when you save it.

If you CHANGE the format, say to JPG or BMP, etc., it will popup a
message warning that all your work will be merged. There are no layers
in a JPG or BMP file, so that's where she made the mistake.

PSP is very good and I'm sorry to hear that your friend had a problem
but it sure looks like she ignored the information that was critical.

Lastly, I had PSP 6 before and use PSP 8 now, this procedure and warning
was the same for both of those versions. You may want to pass this info
on to your friend for "next time."

Fred


Heather wrote:
Hi All.......

Talked to Elayne and she verified what it was. She was working on

restoring
old photos and PSP will not allow her to *Save & Resurrect* (for lack of

a
better word)....the layer that she is working on. She said it

"flattened"
when she saved it.

IOW, she couldn't bring it up again to do more retouching. If I

understand
her....and you....she didn't want to *merge* the layers.....she wanted

to be
able to keep re-opening them individually to do further work. Photoshop
allows her to do this.....not PSP 7.2.

Thanks.....Heather (I didn't make myself clear at the beginning)

"Fred S" "Fred wrote in message
...

Heather,

You have to save the image in PSP format to keep all of the layers. You
can also save another copy to any format which will merge the layers.
Maybe that was her problem.

Fred


Heather wrote:

Yes......it DOES layers.....but it won't save them. I haven't a clue

on
this, but this is what she didn't like about the program. I am sure I


have

the word "layers" right. She was insetting revamped cameo pictures of


Ron's

ancestors into a picture of him at age 8......knobby knees and all,


grin!!

I will ask her when I talk to her tonight.

Cheers....Figgs

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...


Duh?
PSP has done layers since at least version 5!!!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to


NG's

"Heather" wrote in message
.. .


Hi Joanie.....

There is an update to 7.2.....I think. I put it on here for Elayne

to

do


her graphics work over a year ago......she (the graphic designer)

HATED
it,
not to mention she prefers a MAC. Sigh.......seems it wouldn't save
'layers' or some such.

Anyway....I do have another update downloaded I think.....but never

put

it


on. Check out the website.

Best from the usual cold weather here in Ontario-ari-ario......

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
. ..


Hi Heather my version is 7 the anniversary edition, don't know

whether
I've ever done any updating on it, I don't very often use it at the
moment g
Joan

Heather wrote:


No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It

has

been on


this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather







  #18  
Old March 2nd 05, 03:17 AM
ForestSpirit
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My PSP 8 + Animation Shop requires Net Framework 1.1. Maybe different PSP
bundles don't, or maybe it depends on what features you are installing.
Sorry for any confusion.

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
PSP 8 or higher requires Net Framework 1.1.



"Heather" wrote in message
...
No....you are right, Joanie. I have PSP 7.2 on here and never have
installed the .Net framework either.......he is misinformed. It has been on
this computer for 18 months at least.

Cheers....Heather

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
I didn't know that are you sure, I have PSP 7 on here and I had it when
I used WinME and never had to install .Net Framework.
Joan

ForestSpirit wrote:
If you ever want to use Paint Shop Pro, it requires that .Net Framework

1.1
be installed first.





 




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