Win9x OS and Antiviral Software??

Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems cannot
utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is well
until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking for one
that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or Avast!
instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
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"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems cannot
utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is well
until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral
software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking for
one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

Where do you get such information from? This is completely untrue. Win
9x systems can handle up to 2GB of RAM although some tweaking is required
when more than 512MB is installed and there can be other problems if more
than 1GB is present.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

To be expected if one installs malware branded by Norton or Symantec.
McAfee is a bit better but there are far better options in the AV area
than either of these two products.
--
Mike Maltby



NewsReader2k wrote:

Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is
well until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee
antiviral software.
The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking
for one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Thank You for you quick response.

I will try one or both of those antiviral software's.

I knew that Win9x systems can "read" between 1.0 and 1.5 GHz of RAM.

I've noticed that the "Performance/System Resources" on Win9x systems will
not change with any amount RAM higher than 128 MB, no matter how much extra
is added.

This led me to believe that those systems can "read" but not 'utilize"
higher RAM.

Either I'm reading too much into the meaning of the "Performance/System
Resources" tab on Win9x systems, or there is a configuration that I'm not
aware of, which will allow "utilization" of higher RAM.

If this is the case please let me know.

Thx.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or Avast!
instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is well
until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral
software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking for
one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot
utilize more than 128 MB.

Really!! My Win ME PC has & was supplied with 256MB of RAM.
Perhaps you need to engage brain before reposting.
Regards Mike.

Windows can only use the amount of RAM that the programs you're running
need - although caching of programs will take place when there is more RAM
available, it will not affect the speed of the program, unless the actual
program runs out of space in RAM.
The number of programs and what type they are, will affect the amount of RAM
needed - for Win9x, it's rare for more than 128MB of RAM to be used, unless
you're doing some fairly heavy-duty graphics or database work.
The way to test whether RAM would increase performance is to check on the
amount of Virtual Memory in use - NOT the amount allocated. In a system with
sufficient RAM, the 'in use' figure will be usually below 20MB - with
insufficient RAM, the number can go up to 2GB.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for you quick response.

I will try one or both of those antiviral software's.

I knew that Win9x systems can "read" between 1.0 and 1.5 GHz of RAM.

I've noticed that the "Performance/System Resources" on Win9x systems will
not change with any amount RAM higher than 128 MB, no matter how much
extra is added.

This led me to believe that those systems can "read" but not 'utilize"
higher RAM.

Either I'm reading too much into the meaning of the "Performance/System
Resources" tab on Win9x systems, or there is a configuration that I'm not
aware of, which will allow "utilization" of higher RAM.

If this is the case please let me know.

Thx.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or Avast!
instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is well
until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral
software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking for
one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Thank You for your time and patience with this matter.

This has really peaked my interest; apparently I have been misunderstanding
the "System Resources" percentage figures on Win9x systems all along.

Where do I find the "Virtual Memory in use" figures on a Win9x system?

Thx

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Windows can only use the amount of RAM that the programs you're running
need - although caching of programs will take place when there is more RAM
available, it will not affect the speed of the program, unless the actual
program runs out of space in RAM.
The number of programs and what type they are, will affect the amount of
RAM needed - for Win9x, it's rare for more than 128MB of RAM to be used,
unless you're doing some fairly heavy-duty graphics or database work.
The way to test whether RAM would increase performance is to check on the
amount of Virtual Memory in use - NOT the amount allocated. In a system
with sufficient RAM, the 'in use' figure will be usually below 20MB - with
insufficient RAM, the number can go up to 2GB.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for you quick response.

I will try one or both of those antiviral software's.

I knew that Win9x systems can "read" between 1.0 and 1.5 GHz of RAM.

I've noticed that the "Performance/System Resources" on Win9x systems
will not change with any amount RAM higher than 128 MB, no matter how
much extra is added.

This led me to believe that those systems can "read" but not 'utilize"
higher RAM.

Either I'm reading too much into the meaning of the "Performance/System
Resources" tab on Win9x systems, or there is a configuration that I'm not
aware of, which will allow "utilization" of higher RAM.

If this is the case please let me know.

Thx.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or Avast!
instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is well
until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral
software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking
for one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

System Monitor - use the Memory Manager. "Swapfile in Use" display to see
how much VM is in use.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for your time and patience with this matter.

This has really peaked my interest; apparently I have been
misunderstanding the "System Resources" percentage figures on Win9x
systems all along.

Where do I find the "Virtual Memory in use" figures on a Win9x system?

Thx

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Windows can only use the amount of RAM that the programs you're running
need - although caching of programs will take place when there is more
RAM available, it will not affect the speed of the program, unless the
actual program runs out of space in RAM.
The number of programs and what type they are, will affect the amount of
RAM needed - for Win9x, it's rare for more than 128MB of RAM to be used,
unless you're doing some fairly heavy-duty graphics or database work.
The way to test whether RAM would increase performance is to check on the
amount of Virtual Memory in use - NOT the amount allocated. In a system
with sufficient RAM, the 'in use' figure will be usually below 20MB -
with insufficient RAM, the number can go up to 2GB.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for you quick response.

I will try one or both of those antiviral software's.

I knew that Win9x systems can "read" between 1.0 and 1.5 GHz of RAM.

I've noticed that the "Performance/System Resources" on Win9x systems
will not change with any amount RAM higher than 128 MB, no matter how
much extra is added.

This led me to believe that those systems can "read" but not 'utilize"
higher RAM.

Either I'm reading too much into the meaning of the "Performance/System
Resources" tab on Win9x systems, or there is a configuration that I'm
not aware of, which will allow "utilization" of higher RAM.

If this is the case please let me know.

Thx.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or
Avast! instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is
well until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee antiviral
software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking
for one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

"Where do you get such information from? This is completely untrue. Win
9x systems can handle up to 2GB of RAM although some tweaking is required "


I came to this conclusion based of my experiments with the
"Performance/System Resources" percentage figures and increasing RAM on
Win9x systems.

I noticed that no matter how much RAM I added to a system over 128 MB, the
"Performance/System Resource" figure would not change nor were there any
system performance increase.

I realize now that assumption is incorrect, based on Noel Patterson's
response.

I'm aware that modifying the line to the [386enh] section of the System.ini
file:
MaxPhysPage=40000

This will allow Win9x systems to function with 1.5 Gigs of RAM or higher
installed.

I actually run a dual boot gaming system with WinME/WinXP Home and 4 Gigs of
RAM installed.

I laughed at your reference to Norton as "malware", It's so true.

Thx

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

Where do you get such information from? This is completely untrue. Win
9x systems can handle up to 2GB of RAM although some tweaking is required
when more than 512MB is installed and there can be other problems if more
than 1GB is present.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

To be expected if one installs malware branded by Norton or Symantec.
McAfee is a bit better but there are far better options in the AV area
than either of these two products.
--
Mike Maltby



NewsReader2k wrote:

Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x operating
systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is
well until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee
antiviral software.
The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking
for one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx

Thank you so much..



Your responses have been very helpful and insightful.



I installed and configured the Memory Manager as you suggested, and I was
not aware the Win9x system had such detailed and accurate system monitoring
tools.



It's great when someone understands the questions being asked and responds
with useful information.



Thx again.



Peace



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
System Monitor - use the Memory Manager. "Swapfile in Use" display to see
how much VM is in use.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for your time and patience with this matter.

This has really peaked my interest; apparently I have been
misunderstanding the "System Resources" percentage figures on Win9x
systems all along.

Where do I find the "Virtual Memory in use" figures on a Win9x system?

Thx

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Windows can only use the amount of RAM that the programs you're running
need - although caching of programs will take place when there is more
RAM available, it will not affect the speed of the program, unless the
actual program runs out of space in RAM.
The number of programs and what type they are, will affect the amount of
RAM needed - for Win9x, it's rare for more than 128MB of RAM to be used,
unless you're doing some fairly heavy-duty graphics or database work.
The way to test whether RAM would increase performance is to check on
the amount of Virtual Memory in use - NOT the amount allocated. In a
system with sufficient RAM, the 'in use' figure will be usually below
20MB - with insufficient RAM, the number can go up to 2GB.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Thank You for you quick response.

I will try one or both of those antiviral software's.

I knew that Win9x systems can "read" between 1.0 and 1.5 GHz of RAM.

I've noticed that the "Performance/System Resources" on Win9x systems
will not change with any amount RAM higher than 128 MB, no matter how
much extra is added.

This led me to believe that those systems can "read" but not 'utilize"
higher RAM.

Either I'm reading too much into the meaning of the "Performance/System
Resources" tab on Win9x systems, or there is a configuration that I'm
not aware of, which will allow "utilization" of higher RAM.

If this is the case please let me know.

Thx.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Win 9x systems can use up to 1GB with very few problems!
Norton will kill Win9x systems sooner or later - try using AVG or
Avast! instead

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's
"NewsReader2k" wrote in message
...
Anyone know of any antiviral software that will run on Win9x
operating systems with 128mb RAM and a 500 GHz or less Processor?

Increasing the RAM on these systems is usless because Win9x systems
cannot utilize more than 128 MB.

I've done clean installs of the Win9x Operating Systems and all is
well until I install the latest versions of Norton or Mcafee
antiviral software.

The system slows down to an unacceptable crawl.

I know that there is other antiviral software out there; I'm looking
for one that's not so intrusive and will run on older systems.

Any feedback on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thx