Ping: Noel - CDRTC.DLL

Test completed successfully, Mart, but the help file is choice# 1 on my
startup disk and there are a few things to show up during bootup on the
black screen (among others of course), which need to be pointed out in my
humble opinion:

AHA......ASPI Manager for DOS.......
Copyright 1989-1987....Adaptec, Inc.
Virtual RAM DRIVE ver. 3.06......F......

Apparently 'Adaptec' is an integral part of the DOS system and shouldn't the
'virtual' drive letter be 'G', since the real cd-rom drive is 'F'?
This is just an observation on my part, Mart and meant to be helpful.






"Mart" wrote in message
...
Harry, for the moment, let's just concentrate on your A: drive.

Can you please conduct the following test (and repeat as necessary) and
come
back with the results:-

Boot, using your WinMe Startup floppy disk in the A: drive, Select option
4) - the help page, and ensure that you can read several pages (use the up
and down arrows on your keyboard) to confirm that files on the floppy can
be
read properly.

Re-boot (Ctrl+Alt+Del or power-down and restart) several times (at least
half a dozen) and retry the above. You could also try the other options
(1-3) just to confirm that the drive and disk are working OK.

We need to confirm that the A: drive itself isn't 'iffy' i.e that it
appears
to be 'reliable' every time. Until we've confirmed that the drive (and
disk)
are 'good' using this process, then further testing could be misleading
and
therefore pointless.

Again, this will not affect any other previous suggestion/instructions.

Mart

Bingo Harry!!

BTW - You're quite correct Option 1) is Help and 4) is Minimal - My bad!!

However - the (various ASPI) Adaptec, Oak Technology etc., flashes that you
see scrolling on the screen are the default DOS drivers provided (by MS) on
the Floppy Disk for the various pieces of hardware, loading to make the pc
work in its basic DOS mode. They're not of direct concern for this exercise.

RAMDrive is your virtual drive = F:

This is a VIRTUAL DRIVE - NOT A REAL DRIVE which is a chunk of RAM reserved
and used in conjunction with the WinMe Startup disk, to perform basic
(WinMe) DOS testing - in Real Mode DOS.

IT IS NOT YOUR COMPACT DISK (CD-ROM)

So far, everything seems to be correct and working.

OK - Now re-boot again but this time select option 2) with CR-ROM support
and confirm that the CD-ROM drive letter is G:

Just off for my tea - back later

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Test completed successfully, Mart, but the help file is choice# 1 on my
startup disk and there are a few things to show up during bootup on the
black screen (among others of course), which need to be pointed out in my
humble opinion:

AHA......ASPI Manager for DOS.......
Copyright 1989-1987....Adaptec, Inc.
Virtual RAM DRIVE ver. 3.06......F......

Apparently 'Adaptec' is an integral part of the DOS system and shouldn't
the
'virtual' drive letter be 'G', since the real cd-rom drive is 'F'?
This is just an observation on my part, Mart and meant to be helpful.






"Mart" wrote in message
...
Harry, for the moment, let's just concentrate on your A: drive.

Can you please conduct the following test (and repeat as necessary) and
come
back with the results:-

Boot, using your WinMe Startup floppy disk in the A: drive, Select option
4) - the help page, and ensure that you can read several pages (use the
up
and down arrows on your keyboard) to confirm that files on the floppy can
be
read properly.

Re-boot (Ctrl+Alt+Del or power-down and restart) several times (at least
half a dozen) and retry the above. You could also try the other options
(1-3) just to confirm that the drive and disk are working OK.

We need to confirm that the A: drive itself isn't 'iffy' i.e that it
appears
to be 'reliable' every time. Until we've confirmed that the drive (and
disk)
are 'good' using this process, then further testing could be misleading
and
therefore pointless.

Again, this will not affect any other previous suggestion/instructions.

Mart

Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.

Harry.


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Bingo Harry!!

BTW - You're quite correct Option 1) is Help and 4) is Minimal - My bad!!

However - the (various ASPI) Adaptec, Oak Technology etc., flashes that
you
see scrolling on the screen are the default DOS drivers provided (by MS)
on
the Floppy Disk for the various pieces of hardware, loading to make the pc
work in its basic DOS mode. They're not of direct concern for this
exercise.

RAMDrive is your virtual drive = F:

This is a VIRTUAL DRIVE - NOT A REAL DRIVE which is a chunk of RAM
reserved
and used in conjunction with the WinMe Startup disk, to perform basic
(WinMe) DOS testing - in Real Mode DOS.

IT IS NOT YOUR COMPACT DISK (CD-ROM)

So far, everything seems to be correct and working.

OK - Now re-boot again but this time select option 2) with CR-ROM support
and confirm that the CD-ROM drive letter is G:

Just off for my tea - back later

Mart


"webster72n" wrote in message
...

Test completed successfully, Mart, but the help file is choice# 1 on my
startup disk and there are a few things to show up during bootup on the
black screen (among others of course), which need to be pointed out in
my
humble opinion:

AHA......ASPI Manager for DOS.......
Copyright 1989-1987....Adaptec, Inc.
Virtual RAM DRIVE ver. 3.06......F......

Apparently 'Adaptec' is an integral part of the DOS system and shouldn't
the
'virtual' drive letter be 'G', since the real cd-rom drive is 'F'?
This is just an observation on my part, Mart and meant to be helpful.






"Mart" wrote in message
...
Harry, for the moment, let's just concentrate on your A: drive.

Can you please conduct the following test (and repeat as necessary) and
come
back with the results:-

Boot, using your WinMe Startup floppy disk in the A: drive, Select
option
4) - the help page, and ensure that you can read several pages (use the
up
and down arrows on your keyboard) to confirm that files on the floppy
can
be
read properly.

Re-boot (Ctrl+Alt+Del or power-down and restart) several times (at
least
half a dozen) and retry the above. You could also try the other options
(1-3) just to confirm that the drive and disk are working OK.

We need to confirm that the A: drive itself isn't 'iffy' i.e that it
appears
to be 'reliable' every time. Until we've confirmed that the drive (and
disk)
are 'good' using this process, then further testing could be misleading
and
therefore pointless.

Again, this will not affect any other previous suggestion/instructions.

Mart

Harry wrote :-

Been there and already done that, Mart. It checks out allright as 'G'.

Harry.

I should jolly-well hope so Harry!

So, now that you've tested and proved that your A: drive and your CD-ROM are
NOT faulty AND they (along with all your other drives) are all where they
should be (drive letters are correct in WinMe Normal Mode) - what's the
problem?

You said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
1. No quick-fix for A ( didn't try disconnecting the
cable and reconnecting it yet).

So what problems are you (still?) having with your A: drive?

You also said on 26 May 2006 @ 14:27 that :-
2. When you read through the thread, you will find
that my CD-ROM drive is listed only as 'W' anymore,
when it used to be 'R/W'. Where did the 'R' go?

As Shane asked :-

Listed where?

Unless or until you install your 'burner' software, your CD-ROM will not be
recognised (and function) as a burner (Writer), but perform only as a CD-ROM
(Reader) drive.

So what other problems are you now having with your CD-ROM (the G drive?

Mart

Mart has cracked The Da Harry Vinci Code!

John

Shane wrote:

Harry,

It's notable that you say you *seem* to recall your drive as listed as R/W
and now it's just W. Well, given that the model is a W, perhaps you're just
remembering seeing R/W elsewhere? Is TEAC CD-W58E what you mean? Because
that is the model name. Not TEAC CD-R/W58E. Even if it is an R/W drive.


Shane

Not quite John, the original problem is still 'unchanged'.
That is not to take away from Mart's relentless efforts, but my Floppy A and
the CD-ROM drive are still useless in WinME and I haven't got the slightest
why, because everything shows to be 'working properly'.
My Puzzled,

Harry.

P.S.: See new thread.


"John John" wrote in message
...
Mart has cracked The Da Harry Vinci Code!

John

Shane wrote:

Harry,

It's notable that you say you *seem* to recall your drive as listed as
R/W
and now it's just W. Well, given that the model is a W, perhaps you're
just
remembering seeing R/W elsewhere? Is TEAC CD-W58E what you mean? Because
that is the model name. Not TEAC CD-R/W58E. Even if it is an R/W drive.


Shane

Neat! - but not quite sure I have - Yet!!

Mart


"John John" wrote in message
...
Mart has cracked The Da Harry Vinci Code!

John

Shane wrote:

Harry,

It's notable that you say you *seem* to recall your drive as listed as
R/W and now it's just W. Well, given that the model is a W, perhaps
you're just remembering seeing R/W elsewhere? Is TEAC CD-W58E what you
mean? Because that is the model name. Not TEAC CD-R/W58E. Even if it is
an R/W drive.


Shane

Harry,

I asked you to boot to Safe Mode and remove the two Iomega Zip entries. I've
heard no more about that. I asked what cd disc/s you were using to test the
drive and you haven't answered that. I suggested close to 2 weeks ago you
test the cd from DOS using the boot disk and you never responded to that -
though at least I do now know in that one case that you've done it. These
are the kinds of questions you have to answer for any of us to have more
than just pure chance of helping you.

Okay, you did the latest partitioning with the Western Digital tool, not
Partition Magic. However, if you did the *original* partitioning with
Partition Magic, or if the error the Zip drive is associated with in PM is
common to partitioning software as a whole, then the presence of the Iomega
Zip may be causing drive recognition errors. I couldn't get PM to work in
Windows until the Iomega Zip was disconnected, for it was being mistaken for
a fixed drive. If you have errors of drive recognition - and an Iomega Zip -
maybe they're related.

But let's get the starters out of the way first. Delete those two Zip Drive
entrys from Safe Mode. And what cd are you using to test the drive?


Shane

webster72n wrote:
Not quite John, the original problem is still 'unchanged'.
That is not to take away from Mart's relentless efforts, but my
Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive are still useless in WinME and I
haven't got the slightest why, because everything shows to be
'working properly'.
My Puzzled,

Harry.

P.S.: See new thread.


"John John" wrote in message
...
Mart has cracked The Da Harry Vinci Code!

John

Shane wrote:

Harry,

It's notable that you say you *seem* to recall your drive as listed
as R/W and now it's just W. Well, given that the model is a W,
perhaps you're just remembering seeing R/W elsewhere? Is TEAC
CD-W58E what you mean? Because that is the model name. Not TEAC
CD-R/W58E. Even if it is an R/W drive.


Shane

Shane:

For some reason I must have overlooked the Iomega Zip issue.
My apologies. I don't have Iomega Zip, but Iomega.vxd on 'C' and an Iomega
file folder with everything contained therin, the latter on drive 'D'.
Should all evidence of Iomega be deleted? There are quite a few help files
etc. To test the CD-ROM drive, I used WinME CD and World Atlas.
Please forgive me for the oversight.

Harry.


"Shane" wrote in message
...
Harry,

I asked you to boot to Safe Mode and remove the two Iomega Zip entries.
I've
heard no more about that. I asked what cd disc/s you were using to test
the
drive and you haven't answered that. I suggested close to 2 weeks ago you
test the cd from DOS using the boot disk and you never responded to that -
though at least I do now know in that one case that you've done it. These
are the kinds of questions you have to answer for any of us to have more
than just pure chance of helping you.

Okay, you did the latest partitioning with the Western Digital tool, not
Partition Magic. However, if you did the *original* partitioning with
Partition Magic, or if the error the Zip drive is associated with in PM is
common to partitioning software as a whole, then the presence of the
Iomega
Zip may be causing drive recognition errors. I couldn't get PM to work in
Windows until the Iomega Zip was disconnected, for it was being mistaken
for
a fixed drive. If you have errors of drive recognition - and an Iomega
Zip -
maybe they're related.

But let's get the starters out of the way first. Delete those two Zip
Drive
entrys from Safe Mode. And what cd are you using to test the drive?


Shane

webster72n wrote:
Not quite John, the original problem is still 'unchanged'.
That is not to take away from Mart's relentless efforts, but my
Floppy A and the CD-ROM drive are still useless in WinME and I
haven't got the slightest why, because everything shows to be
'working properly'.
My Puzzled,

Harry.

P.S.: See new thread.


"John John" wrote in message
...
Mart has cracked The Da Harry Vinci Code!

John

Shane wrote:

Harry,

It's notable that you say you *seem* to recall your drive as listed
as R/W and now it's just W. Well, given that the model is a W,
perhaps you're just remembering seeing R/W elsewhere? Is TEAC
CD-W58E what you mean? Because that is the model name. Not TEAC
CD-R/W58E. Even if it is an R/W drive.


Shane

For some reason I must have overlooked the Iomega Zip issue.
My apologies. I don't have Iomega Zip, but Iomega.vxd on 'C' and an

Harry, I thought you'd said you have *an* 100MB Iomega Zip drive. You
certainly have an Iomega Zip drive driver (iomega.vxd). And - going on the
results you gave Noel of what Device Manager reported in Safe Mode, you have
an Iomega Zip drive reported, and not once but twice!

Iomega file folder with everything contained therin, the latter on
drive 'D'. Should all evidence of Iomega be deleted? There are quite

If the software was *installed* to Drive D: then yes, but it should be
uninstalled rather than just deleted, as otherwise all the registry entries
remain, and if you have completely got rid of the Adaptec/Roxio software,
your problem seems likely to be registry entries that have been left behind,
so you don't want even more!

But if the software's merely been stored/saved/archived on Drive D: then it
is not necessary. Make sure you're not confusing merely copying data to the
drive, with installing programs to it. If you have installed to Drive D
rather than C, why?

a few help files etc. To test the CD-ROM drive, I used WinME CD and
World Atlas.

Okay, Harry. What kind of Win ME cd do you have? Who supplies it? If it's an
OEM disc it could potentially cause problems if you accidentally initiate
something. The World Atlas is probably okay but it is good to have an
alternative (other than an OEM Win ME cd) and one from a computer magazine
is useful in that it's probably in good condition. But this is a start.

Please forgive me for the oversight.


Okay, Harry. So tell us, where did you see the drive listed as a 'R/W' but
now only as a 'W'? And do confirm whether you do or do not have a 100MB
Iomega Zip drive connected.

Shane