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  #31  
Old November 27th 14, 03:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

You're not supposed to run the extract.exe from the CD.


Oh I copy it to XP. I don't try to extract from the win98 CD.


What's the matter with you?

Do you not understand what I'm trying to tell you?

You don't run the extract.exe from the 98 cd. Doesn't matter where you
copy it to. It won't run under a 64-bit OS.

Do you understand that?

And you don't need to be able to run extract.exe to unpack a cab file.
Your XP system can natively unpack cab files - by right clicking and
selecting extract.

Do you understand that?
  #32  
Old November 27th 14, 03:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:11:23 PM UTC-8, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Hum...There seems to be another problem here. Rufus is not letting me
format my USB because it says device not compatible with cluster size. I
know what that means but I don't know why I'm getting that error. It must
have (or seems to look like) it has something to do with the USB.

Bill


Right click Rufus and select Properties, then look for a compatibility tab among your choices there, try 98 or 95 if you even have those choices - I do but I'm 32 bit XP. I can't go higher than 32 bit Win7 which is the last of 32 bit OS that MS wrote.

Bill, you need a different computer to run 98 on. 98 doesn't do dual core processors and you HAVE a dual core processor - it's the only way you can have a 64 bit XP version running on it. 32 bit is for single core processors even though they can be hyper-threading. I can't run your XP any more than you can run mine or 98 or 95 for that matter. Your box is too new and it won't work, you'll never find 64 bit drivers for your motherboard written for 98 since it CAN'T run on that 10 year old machine.

Your only hope on that box is to run 98 as a virtual machine which is installed thru Windows XP so you WILL have access to the 98 CD at that point. You may need to find a 64bit to 32bit program to even do this under as NO 16 bit programs can be made to work with 64 bit machines. This means DOS is dead to you on that box. It won't run, you can't install using DOS as 98 was designed to do, you can't even run inf files as they are using 16 bit programs too. A virtual Windows 98 running under a 64 to 32 bit translator is your only hope and it's not much of one at all. If you do get it going as a virtual machine expect it to crash with NO support for that just about everyday. Give up. Get a different box that qualifies first. And hurry, they are getting scarce.
  #33  
Old November 27th 14, 06:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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"Lee" wrote in message
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[snip]

Your only hope on that box is to run 98 as a virtual machine which is
installed thru Windows XP so you WILL have access to the 98 CD at that
point. You may need to find a 64bit to 32bit program to even do this under
as NO 16 bit programs can be made to work with 64 bit machines. This means
DOS is dead to you on that box. It won't run, you can't install using DOS
as 98 was designed to do, you can't even run inf files as they are using 16
bit programs too. A virtual Windows 98 running under a 64 to 32 bit
translator is your only hope and it's not much of one at all. If you do get
it going as a virtual machine expect it to crash with NO support for that
just about everyday. Give up. Get a different box that qualifies first.
And hurry, they are getting scarce.

ok Well that's gor your help. Oracle has a vm I think is called virtual box.
98 might go on that.

Bill


  #34  
Old November 27th 14, 06:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
...

"Lee" wrote in message
...

[snip]

Your only hope on that box is to run 98 as a virtual machine which is
installed thru Windows XP so you WILL have access to the 98 CD at that
point. You may need to find a 64bit to 32bit program to even do this
under as NO 16 bit programs can be made to work with 64 bit machines.
This means DOS is dead to you on that box. It won't run, you can't
install using DOS as 98 was designed to do, you can't even run inf files
as they are using 16 bit programs too. A virtual Windows 98 running under
a 64 to 32 bit translator is your only hope and it's not much of one at
all. If you do get it going as a virtual machine expect it to crash with
NO support for that just about everyday. Give up. Get a different box
that qualifies first. And hurry, they are getting scarce.

ok Well that's gor your help. Oracle has a vm I think is called virtual
box. 98 might go on that.

Bill

That's supposed to be "thanks for"


  #35  
Old November 27th 14, 11:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Lee wrote:

Bill, you need a different computer to run 98 on. 98 doesn't do
dual core processors and you HAVE a dual core processor


I don't know if you need to have a dual-core CPU to run any 64-bit
version of windoze, but your assertion that win-98 doesn't/can't run on
a dual-core cpu is false.

Win-98 will run on any i86 CPU, regardless how many cores it has. It's
true that win-98 will only use 1 core, but the cpu having more than 1
core is of no consequence to win-98 operability.

I can't run your XP any more than you can run mine or 98 or 95
for that matter.


Again, complete bull**** when it comes to win-9x running on multi-core
CPU's.

Your box is too new and it won't work,


He's got a 10-year-old box. If he has an Intel CPU, then garanteed it
will be socket 478, and there were VERY FEW true dual-core CPU's for
that socket. There were also some with hyperthreading - which is some
sort of wierd form of dual-core.

you'll never find 64 bit drivers for your motherboard written
for 98 since it CAN'T run on that 10 year old machine.


What the hell kind of bull**** are you talking about?

He doesn't need to have any 64-bit drivers for win-98 to run on his
machine, regardless what CPU he has, or how many cores it has.

Again, if his machine is using a socket-478 based Intel CPU, then there
will be drivers for ALL motherboard components (chipset, lan, audio,
USB, etc). His video will either be on-board or AGP card, and again
there will be win-98 drivers for those too.

Bill - go into your device manager and look at the CPU and tell us what
it is.
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Old November 27th 14, 11:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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Bill Cunningham wrote:
You're not supposed to run the extract.exe from the CD.

Oh I copy it to XP. I don't try to extract from the win98 CD.


What's the matter with you?
Do you not understand what I'm trying to tell you?
You don't run the extract.exe from the 98 cd. Doesn't matter where you
copy it to. It won't run under a 64-bit OS.
Do you understand that?

And you don't need to be able to run extract.exe to unpack a cab file.
Your XP system can natively unpack cab files - by right clicking and
selecting extract.
Do you understand that?


It won't run under a 64-bit OS
So true
And Or

Windows 98, 98 SP1, 98 SE + ME Updates, Patches + (Hot)Fixes
http://www.mdgx.com/upd98me.php

Or

Unofficial Windows 98 Second Edition Service Pack 3.36

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/deta...vice_pack.html

Or

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/win98.htm
Security Update for Microsoft Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition
(KB823559)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=18186



I Just do not see
Why not use
Microsoft Virtual PC 2007
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=4580

Make/install it
On a Virtual Hard Drive

Afterwards move it to
Hard Drive

If Moving to D:
Make it on Virtual D:


Then uninstall
Microsoft Virtual PC 2007

Or use JavaSun_Virtual_Box

http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...kdownload.html

Afterwards move it to
Hard Drive

Then uninstall
JavaSun_Virtual_Box

http://www.mdgx.com/newtip98.htm#!

  #37  
Old November 28th 14, 12:39 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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Bill - go into your device manager and look at the CPU and tell us what
it is.


Already know. AMD Athelon 64 3500+

Bill


  #38  
Old November 28th 14, 01:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

look at the CPU and tell us what it is.


Already know. AMD Athelon 64 3500+


Umm, ya.

That is not going to help too much.

There apparently were several different CPU's introduced by AMD between
June 2004 and February 2007 that are identified as Athlon 64 3500+, the
earlier have Socket 939 package and the latter have Socket AM2.

So that alone isin't going to tell us if there are win-98 drivers for
your motherboard.

Do you know if your system RAM is DDR or DDR-2?

Do you know what your chipset (northbridge, southbridge) is?

Does the board have an AGP slot (for video) or PCI-e?

Look in Device Manager for that info.
  #39  
Old November 28th 14, 03:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
...
Bill Cunningham wrote:

look at the CPU and tell us what it is.


Already know. AMD Athelon 64 3500+


Umm, ya.

That is not going to help too much.

There apparently were several different CPU's introduced by AMD between
June 2004 and February 2007 that are identified as Athlon 64 3500+, the
earlier have Socket 939 package and the latter have Socket AM2.

So that alone isin't going to tell us if there are win-98 drivers for
your motherboard.

Do you know if your system RAM is DDR or DDR-2?


DDR

Do you know what your chipset (northbridge, southbridge) is?


The drivers for that are from ATI

Does the board have an AGP slot (for video) or PCI-e?

Look in Device Manager for that info.


The display adapter is using a microsoft driver and the device driver
said PCI. I have several PCI slots. But I don't have a video PCI card to
plug into a bus. The monitor I have screws into a serial type slot. If that
helps.

Bill


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Old November 28th 14, 04:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

Do you know what your chipset (northbridge, southbridge) is?


The drivers for that are from ATI


Far too many possibilities still in what you might have. Unless you can
give some sort of ID or make/model of the motherboard, my best guess is
that there are not going to be any win-98 drivers for the chipset.

I have several PCI slots. But I don't have a video PCI card to
plug into a bus. The monitor I have screws into a serial type
slot. If that helps.


A "serial type" slot.

You mean a VGA connector?

Like this:

http://www.buildcomputers.net/images/vga-port.jpg

???
 




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