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Old November 18th 07, 02:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
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Default Windows Startup Issue

When I startup the PC, at the end of boot process it appears to hunge looking
for something about 3 min then printing two times on the screen: c:/ , and
then starts normally. What do these c:/ mean - it can't find a previously
refenrenced and then uninstalled program? How I can find out, why it hangs
for some time, what it is looking for or checking without visibly accessing
HD?
  #2  
Old November 18th 07, 06:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Default Windows Startup Issue

Click Start Run. type:
sysedit
|Click OK|

Click the autoexec.bat window in sysedit, select the entire text of the file and
copy, then paste into a reply here.
Click the config.sys window in sysedit, select the entire text of the file and copy,
then paste into a reply here.

To remove the two C:\'s stacked up when you start up, make sure there are no blank
lines in autoexec.bat, at the end. Open with sysedit, click the mouse pointer near
the bottom of the autoexec.bat window, and backspace till you are at the end of the
very last written line, so there are no blank lines at the end of the file.

If the file is empty, backspace all the way to the beginning of the file so the
cursor is all the way top left.

Save the changes, by clicking File Save.

Do the same in config.sys, save, and exit sysedit.

You may still find there is a delay during startup for another reason. Does your
computer have a network interface...a Network Interface card (NIC) or integrated
Ethernet port? If so, is it connected to a network of any kind....is there a
network cable attached to it connecting it to anything else?

If no, then you probably need to configure your networking settings to stop Windows
from looking for a non-existent network at startup.

When a Win98 system is not connected to any networks and the NIC is configured to
obtain an IP address automatically, you can assign the NIC a static IP address so
that it does not try to contact a DHCP server at startup:
192.168.0.1 (or actually 192.168.0.2 may be better), subnet mask 255.255.255.0

So, if you are NOT connected to any network, do this:
Click Start Settings Control Panel Network Configuration tab.
Click to select TCP/IP bound to the Ethernet/Network adapter, in the list of
components.
Click the Properties button.
Click the IP Address tab Specify
Assign an IP address of: 192.168.0.2
and a subnet mask of: 255.255.255.0
Click OK all the way out, and reboot when prompted.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/


"arnymars" wrote in message
...
When I startup the PC, at the end of boot process it appears to hunge looking
for something about 3 min then printing two times on the screen: c:/ , and
then starts normally. What do these c:/ mean - it can't find a previously
refenrenced and then uninstalled program? How I can find out, why it hangs
for some time, what it is looking for or checking without visibly accessing
HD?


  #3  
Old November 18th 07, 06:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Windows Startup Issue

Click Start Run. type:
sysedit
|Click OK|

Click the autoexec.bat window in sysedit, select the entire text of the file and
copy, then paste into a reply here.
Click the config.sys window in sysedit, select the entire text of the file and copy,
then paste into a reply here.

To remove the two C:\'s stacked up when you start up, make sure there are no blank
lines in autoexec.bat, at the end. Open with sysedit, click the mouse pointer near
the bottom of the autoexec.bat window, and backspace till you are at the end of the
very last written line, so there are no blank lines at the end of the file.

If the file is empty, backspace all the way to the beginning of the file so the
cursor is all the way top left.

Save the changes, by clicking File Save.

Do the same in config.sys, save, and exit sysedit.

You may still find there is a delay during startup for another reason. Does your
computer have a network interface...a Network Interface card (NIC) or integrated
Ethernet port? If so, is it connected to a network of any kind....is there a
network cable attached to it connecting it to anything else?

If no, then you probably need to configure your networking settings to stop Windows
from looking for a non-existent network at startup.

When a Win98 system is not connected to any networks and the NIC is configured to
obtain an IP address automatically, you can assign the NIC a static IP address so
that it does not try to contact a DHCP server at startup:
192.168.0.1 (or actually 192.168.0.2 may be better), subnet mask 255.255.255.0

So, if you are NOT connected to any network, do this:
Click Start Settings Control Panel Network Configuration tab.
Click to select TCP/IP bound to the Ethernet/Network adapter, in the list of
components.
Click the Properties button.
Click the IP Address tab Specify
Assign an IP address of: 192.168.0.2
and a subnet mask of: 255.255.255.0
Click OK all the way out, and reboot when prompted.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/


"arnymars" wrote in message
...
When I startup the PC, at the end of boot process it appears to hunge looking
for something about 3 min then printing two times on the screen: c:/ , and
then starts normally. What do these c:/ mean - it can't find a previously
refenrenced and then uninstalled program? How I can find out, why it hangs
for some time, what it is looking for or checking without visibly accessing
HD?


  #4  
Old November 18th 07, 08:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
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Default Windows Startup Issue

Thank you Glee

I removed 1 blank line in both config.sys and autoexec.bat - both c:/ still
appear at startup. More - I unchecked both files in msconfig and restarted -
it didn't help. I can e-mail you a bootlog file if it helps. Do I need to
start in Safe Mode for Bootlog.txt to be updated?

As to NIC, I do have one connected to the Router, and I assigned a static IP
to my PC, but it didn't change the startup delay right before double c:/
lines appear.
  #5  
Old November 18th 07, 08:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
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Posts: 33
Default Windows Startup Issue

Thank you Glee

I removed 1 blank line in both config.sys and autoexec.bat - both c:/ still
appear at startup. More - I unchecked both files in msconfig and restarted -
it didn't help. I can e-mail you a bootlog file if it helps. Do I need to
start in Safe Mode for Bootlog.txt to be updated?

As to NIC, I do have one connected to the Router, and I assigned a static IP
to my PC, but it didn't change the startup delay right before double c:/
lines appear.
  #6  
Old November 18th 07, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Windows Startup Issue

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"arnymars" wrote in message
...
Thank you Glee

I removed 1 blank line in both config.sys and autoexec.bat - both c:/ still
appear at startup. More - I unchecked both files in msconfig and restarted -
it didn't help. I can e-mail you a bootlog file if it helps. Do I need to
start in Safe Mode for Bootlog.txt to be updated?


See my further reply below. Removing the blanks end-lines from those files usually
stops the multiple C:\ prompts on-screen at startup. Perhaps you have some other
batch file set to run at system startup, and it is loaded from elsewhere in your
startup axis.

You will need to disable all the items on the Startup tab in msconfig, click OK,
reboot, and see if the prompts still appear. If not, then something in the startup
axis is the cause.

Enable half the startup items, OK, reboot....if it comes back, it is something in
the half you enabled.
If it does not occur, enable that half and disable the other half, OK, reboot.
Continue till you have narrowed down the cause.


As to NIC, I do have one connected to the Router, and I assigned a static IP
to my PC, but it didn't change the startup delay right before double c:/
lines appear.


Do a logged boot, then when Windows starts, download and run Bootlog Analyser (BLA)
to find delays and failures.

To do a Logged boot:
- Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu
(boot menu) appears.
OR
- Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.
- Use the arrow keys to select the "Logged" option, and press Enter.

Run BLA, then select the options to show failures and delays only, and post back
here with only the failures and delays listed, and also the last few lines of the
full log.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downr...rights_a-z.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downl...g_analyzer.exe

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


  #7  
Old November 18th 07, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Windows Startup Issue

Replies inline...
"arnymars" wrote in message
...
Thank you Glee

I removed 1 blank line in both config.sys and autoexec.bat - both c:/ still
appear at startup. More - I unchecked both files in msconfig and restarted -
it didn't help. I can e-mail you a bootlog file if it helps. Do I need to
start in Safe Mode for Bootlog.txt to be updated?


See my further reply below. Removing the blanks end-lines from those files usually
stops the multiple C:\ prompts on-screen at startup. Perhaps you have some other
batch file set to run at system startup, and it is loaded from elsewhere in your
startup axis.

You will need to disable all the items on the Startup tab in msconfig, click OK,
reboot, and see if the prompts still appear. If not, then something in the startup
axis is the cause.

Enable half the startup items, OK, reboot....if it comes back, it is something in
the half you enabled.
If it does not occur, enable that half and disable the other half, OK, reboot.
Continue till you have narrowed down the cause.


As to NIC, I do have one connected to the Router, and I assigned a static IP
to my PC, but it didn't change the startup delay right before double c:/
lines appear.


Do a logged boot, then when Windows starts, download and run Bootlog Analyser (BLA)
to find delays and failures.

To do a Logged boot:
- Start the computer and hold down the CTRL key till the Windows 98 Startup menu
(boot menu) appears.
OR
- Repeatedly tap the F8 key after the memory count to bring up the boot menu.
- Use the arrow keys to select the "Logged" option, and press Enter.

Run BLA, then select the options to show failures and delays only, and post back
here with only the failures and delays listed, and also the last few lines of the
full log.

BootLog Analyser (BLA)
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downr...rights_a-z.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downl...g_analyzer.exe

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+


  #8  
Old November 19th 07, 08:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
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Posts: 33
Default Windows Startup Issue

Glee,

I run diagnistics as adviced and found that c:\ lines at startup were caused
by an (looking) empty Winstart.bat file, properly not deleted timely when
uninstalling its application. As to Startup Delay & Bootlog file, I sent it
for privacy to your e-mail address above in a .zip file jointly with
screenshots of some other my laptop problems discussed in other posts of this
forum.
  #9  
Old November 19th 07, 08:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 33
Default Windows Startup Issue

Glee,

I run diagnistics as adviced and found that c:\ lines at startup were caused
by an (looking) empty Winstart.bat file, properly not deleted timely when
uninstalling its application. As to Startup Delay & Bootlog file, I sent it
for privacy to your e-mail address above in a .zip file jointly with
screenshots of some other my laptop problems discussed in other posts of this
forum.
  #10  
Old November 19th 07, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
arnymars
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Posts: 33
Default Windows Startup Issue

Glee,

My e-mail just bounced back. Is there anyway to send it to you, or post the
file somewhere you can get it from privately?
 




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