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Win98 to win98se?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:17:10 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:
Nina DiBoy wrote: But I only have the win98 install cd. Windows 98 second edition CD is readily available via torrent. Don't waste your time installing 98 original edition. You can get in trouble with microsoft for using torrents. This usenet group is hosted by them. -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:41 -0500, The poster formerly known as 'The
Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote: I have an old laptop I put win98 on, but I am hoping to upgrade it to win98se to have USB support. But I only have the win98 install cd. Is such a thing possible? Would this happen through windows update? Thanks. also u-lite definitely supports usb, and is completely supported and updateable. See my signature. -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
No Alternative wrote:
Windows 98 second edition CD is readily available via torrent. Don't waste your time installing 98 original edition. You can get in trouble with microsoft for using torrents. No you can't. Who told you that? Microsoft would never know that you downloaded win-98 from a torrent. This usenet group is hosted by them. No, this usenet group is NOT HOSTED by Micro$oft. This usenet group is *carried* by microsoft's usenet server, and it is also carried by hundreds or thousands of other usenet servers around the world - none of which have any specific ability to censor or control this group or impose rules which other servers must follow. For example, I do not read or post messages to this newsgroup by accessing the microsoft server - and neither do you. |
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Win98 to win98se?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:37:10 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:
No Alternative wrote: Windows 98 second edition CD is readily available via torrent. Don't waste your time installing 98 original edition. You can get in trouble with microsoft for using torrents. No you can't. Who told you that? Microsoft would never know that you downloaded win-98 from a torrent. then why do people get prosecuted for downloading and hosting there software illegally? This usenet group is hosted by them. No, this usenet group is NOT HOSTED by Micro$oft. This usenet group is *carried* by microsoft's usenet server, and it is also carried by hundreds or thousands of other usenet servers around the world - none of which have any specific ability to censor or control this group or impose rules which other servers must follow. For example, I do not read or post messages to this newsgroup by accessing the microsoft server - and neither do you. Nobody said anything about whether they can censor it, but their lawyers often threaten people in these group, so why tell the person to do somethings that can get them into trouble, because it is illegal? -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
No Alternative wrote:
You can get in trouble with microsoft for using torrents. No you can't. Who told you that? Microsoft would never know that you downloaded win-98 from a torrent. then why do people get prosecuted for downloading and hosting there software illegally? Microsoft goes after companies that are using their software without paying for it because former employees snitch on them. Only music and movie companies go after home internet users who make music and movies available via torrent (and they stopped doing that 6 months ago). Microsoft doesn't go after home users who are downloading windows 98 from a torrent. And if you're worried about it, just install Peer Guardian and then microsoft really won't be able to see you (but they're not looking anyways). Downloading microsoft software via torrent isin't illegal. Technically, only installing the software can be "illegal" if you don't have a valid product key (ie license). If you have a valid product key, then microsoft can't charge you for anything, and neither can the courts. Simply possessing the software, or making it available to others via torrent, is not "illegal". When you install software (especially microsoft software), you will always see a screen called the EULA (end user license agreement). You must answer (or click on) the "Yes" button in order for the software to install. By pressing "Yes", you have entered into a legal agreement or contract with microsoft. Microsoft must have knowledge that you violated that agreement before they can take any action against you. Simply participating in a torrent is not sufficient evidence that you went on to install and use the software in a manner that violates the EULA. Microsoft can't know if you have a valid product key or license, so just the knowledge that you are participating in a torrent is not enough for them to get a court order and force your ISP to reveal your identity to them. That is a different situation for music or movies, which does not have a "product key" or license mechanism that can be violated. Nobody said anything about whether they can censor it, but their lawyers often threaten people in these group, I've never seen any such messages from lawyers. Please post an example. I would like to laugh at it. I've posted much abusive material toward microsoft in these microsoft.* groups. The posts have never been removed from Microsoft's servers, and certainly I've never seen any messages from lawyers or even sys-admins. And they have no way to know who I am or where I am anyways. I've posted product keys, links to torrents for microsoft software, etc. so why tell the person to do somethings that can get them into trouble, because it is illegal? Because micro$haft is a criminal organization who has been charged with violating many laws in many countries over the years. They have payed millions in fines. They do not deserve any respect (legal or civil). They are an illegal monopoly that has violated many antitrust laws over the years. They should have been broken up like Standard Oil was broken up many years ago. Copyright law (DCMA) is a joke. It's unconstitutional, and it should be repealed. It does not deserve to be followed. I fully advocate that people go and seek windows 98 se and download it from a bit torrent. Here are some BT links: http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Windows-...2468f9aafc0441 http://extratorrent.com/download/974...+ Key.torrent For the second one, there are currently 117 seeds and 26 leachers (I've just checked, and started to download it). Do you hear that Microsoft? I am currently downloading windows 98 via bit torrent. What are you going to do about it? Please have your lawyers post a message here in response to my post. I dare you. Microsoft - you are a ****-hole of a company. Windows Vista was a joke, and Windows 7 will finally sink you. You are a cancer to the software industry. |
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Win98 to win98se?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:34:59 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:
No Alternative wrote: And if you're worried about it, just install Peer Guardian and then microsoft really won't be able to see you (but they're not looking anyways). I don't have to. I have it legally. I would also go completely to linux if I did not. It is so easy to use that anyone who pirates windows is just a lazy sod as far as I am concerned. Also you get se by updating 98, so your advise was unnecessary. Downloading microsoft software via torrent isin't illegal. Not according to this. http://www.computerforum.com/138438-...py-windows-if- you-already-own-os.htmlfox-a Microsoft - you are a ****-hole of a company. Windows Vista was a joke, and Windows 7 will finally sink you. You are a cancer to the software industry. That being the case quit hooking people on their products and advise the use of linux. A very good version is available in my sig. If people get into the habit of using it rather than windows, it will do much more damage to the windows brand then helping people to swipe windows, thus encouraging the windows habit. -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
No Alternative wrote:
I don't have to. I have it legally. Lots of people have a legit product key for a windoze product. A product key is a license to use the product. The medium that the product comes on is irrelavent. Whether I download it, buy a CD in a store, or get it from a torrent, it doesn't matter. I will never "own" the code. I can only purchase the right to use it. A software license usually comes with the software in question. Once upon a time, the software came on magnetic tape, or floppy disks. More recently it comes on CD or DVD. That is the "medium". If my copy of the medium (the disk, cd, etc) becomes lost or dammaged, that does not mean that I've lost the right to use the software. It also doesn't mean I can't obtain another copy of the medium by what-ever means I can. I'm doing nothing illegal if I download a win98 cd and install win98 from that CD using a product key I purchased in the past. Also you get se by updating 98, so your advise was unnecessary. You're actually wrong about that. If you have windows 98 (first edition, aka "Gold"), then you don't have the right or the ability to update it to second edition for no cost. Microsoft has never made any such update package that can take you from 98 to 98se and made it freely available to anyone who has 98 first edition. Second edition is a SEPARATE PRODUCT. It is not a free update, it never was. Downloading microsoft software via torrent isin't illegal. Not according to this. http://www.computerforum.com/138438-...py-windows-if- you-already-own-os.html That is a thread posted by a bunch of people and all it is is just talk. It contains no authoritative information - just a lot of speculation and gossip. Microsoft - you are a ****-hole of a company. That being the case quit hooking people on their products and advise the use of linux. Windows 98se was a better operating system than XP or Vista. I advocate that people keep using windows 98 whereever and whenever possible. If that means downloading it via torrent and using it in violation of the eula, then great. I have no problems with that. Linux is too much of a hassle for most people to actually setup and use on a day to day basis. If people get into the habit of using it rather than windows, it will do much more damage to the windows brand then helping people to swipe windows, thus encouraging the windows habit. I encourage the continued use of Windows 98, and if not that then use XP - and pirate it if you can. Starving Microsoft of revenue is just as good as having people move away from Windows and switch to Linux. And I'm still waiting for your examples of messages posted by microsoft lawyers. |
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Win98 to win98se?
Get all the latest updates from Windows Update. I'm not sure if they still
support Windows 98 anymore though. "No Alternative" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:41 -0500, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote: I have an old laptop I put win98 on, but I am hoping to upgrade it to win98se to have USB support. But I only have the win98 install cd. Is such a thing possible? Would this happen through windows update? Thanks. You should be able to do upgrade it to the equivolent of se with windows update. http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ You may need to upgrade windows explorer. -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:38:21 -0400, 98 Guy wrote:
No Alternative wrote: If you have windows 98 (first edition, aka "Gold"), then you don't have the right or the ability to update it to second edition for no cost. Microsoft has never made any such update package that can take you from 98 to 98se and made it freely available to anyone who has 98 first edition. Second edition is a SEPARATE PRODUCT. It is not a free update, it never was. If you follow the service pack upgrade path you get the same identical upgrades offered with se. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_98 Linux is too much of a hassle for most people to actually setup and use on a day to day basis. Things have changed alot since 1998 If people get into the habit of using it rather than windows, it will do much more damage to the windows brand then helping people to swipe windows, thus encouraging the windows habit. I encourage the continued use of Windows 98, and if not that then use XP - and pirate it if you can. Starving Microsoft of revenue is just as good as having people move away from Windows and switch to Linux. If the microsoft os is so much better than others, why do you want to starve them of revenue? If microsoft goes under people will be left with what you claim is an os that is TOO HARD to setup and use! Maybe your just lazy and making excuses for it. -- http://english-158465906205.spampoison.com http://u-lite.org |
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Win98 to win98se?
On 07/04/2009 01:37 PM, 98 Guy wrote: No Alternative wrote: Windows 98 second edition CD is readily available via torrent. Don't waste your time installing 98 original edition. You can get in trouble with microsoft for using torrents. No you can't. Who told you that? Microsoft would never know that you downloaded win-98 from a torrent. Microsoft does not need to know as EVERY prosecutor, solicitor, or other [bound by local and International Law, treaty, sanction, or the like] across the planet is bound to take action for pirated software and or illegal materials should you be caught with it or offering it upon the Internet... So YES, you can and will be prosecuted if you are determined to have or have partaken in the illegal distribution of these types of materials. This usenet group is hosted by them. No, this usenet group is NOT HOSTED by Micro$oft. This usenet group is *carried* by microsoft's usenet server, and it is also carried by hundreds or thousands of other usenet servers around the world - none of which have any specific ability to censor or control this group or impose rules which other servers must follow. For example, I do not read or post messages to this newsgroup by accessing the microsoft server - and neither do you. Your example fails, as usual to comprehend that EVERY USENET forum/newsgroup carried, has a physical MASTER host. That you FAIL to understand that there MUST be a master to collect, offer, and disseminate the postings isn't unusual for you though, as you rarely understand much of anything anyone takes the time to provide so you CAN understand. You and I have discussed this previously to great extent, and I even provided an example to show you what happens when that master host goes down. For instance, this supposed discussion you are supposedly having with No Alternative *just popped into* the master server... apparently albasani.net was NOT part of, authorized as, or sending its postings to the master host. Hence, any other messages MAY have been transferred to local or other mirror sources, they were NOT, however, part of the master distribution. -- ~ -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The *REAL WORLD* of Law, Justice, and Government _______ |
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