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Large Hard Drive & BIOS upgrade problems
Hi
Some of u may remember my posting before about this subject. My Boot drive is 60G and my old BIOS saw that OK and Fdisk partitioned it OK some time ago. For extra storage. I bought a Seagate 120G drive and my then present BIOS would not see more than 32,248M of the new drive. I then used Seagate's DDO which worked OK for a few days and it did enable me to format and use the whole drive. However, after a while, new, large, garbled, phantom folders began appearing. They could not be deleted. It was not possible to use either scandisk or defrag on the drive because of the DDO. I decided to remove the DDO with Seagate tools and go for a BIOS flash upgrade. I went to www.E-support.com and a link on their website tested my old BIOS and said that an upgrade was available which would support up to 512G drives. It was specifically designed for my motherboard. It cost about £14. The flash was sent in an email with full instructions and was very easy. Unfortunately, the new BIOS still only showed the same disk drive space as the old one. Even using Fdisk (the one in ME which supports larger drives), it could only see and partition 32,248M of the new drive (100% used as primary dos partition). E-support have tried to help, via many emails, with this problem. They argue that I must be doing something wrong because the new BIOS sees the full 60G of my Boot drive (as did my old BIOS) and therefore it cannot be faulty. All cables are connected correctly. The new drive is set as secondary master. The jumpers are all correct on all devices. There is no limit jumper on the new drive. I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. I have read every Microsoft article about large drives in ME but this cannot be a Windows issue anyway, can it? I have the newest chipset drives from my motherboard manufacturer. My IDE controller should support large drives. Why can my old and new BIOS see the full extent of a 60G drive but only 32,248M of a 120G drive. E-support say this is impossible. They say it must see 60G in both and should see all of the 120G drive. I can only say that they have tried very hard to resolve this. I don't want to return my new BIOS flash and get a refund because im just back where I started. Any ideas please so that I can pass them to E-support. Thanks a lot Nigel Motherboard Mercury (Kobian) KOB 845 NFSX) Chipset Intel 1A30 rev 3 120 GIG Seagate drive (model ST3120022A) Microsoft Windows ME Version: 4.90.3000 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500 Mhz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Release 5.0) AwardBIOS Upgrade Provided by eSupport.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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Sorry the link to esupport is incorrect in my previous post.
It should have been http://www.esupport.com/ Sorry Nigel "Lago Jardin" wrote in message . .. Hi Some of u may remember my posting before about this subject. My Boot drive is 60G and my old BIOS saw that OK and Fdisk partitioned it OK some time ago. For extra storage. I bought a Seagate 120G drive and my then present BIOS would not see more than 32,248M of the new drive. I then used Seagate's DDO which worked OK for a few days and it did enable me to format and use the whole drive. However, after a while, new, large, garbled, phantom folders began appearing. They could not be deleted. It was not possible to use either scandisk or defrag on the drive because of the DDO. I decided to remove the DDO with Seagate tools and go for a BIOS flash upgrade. I went to www.E-support.com and a link on their website tested my old BIOS and said that an upgrade was available which would support up to 512G drives. It was specifically designed for my motherboard. It cost about £14. The flash was sent in an email with full instructions and was very easy. Unfortunately, the new BIOS still only showed the same disk drive space as the old one. Even using Fdisk (the one in ME which supports larger drives), it could only see and partition 32,248M of the new drive (100% used as primary dos partition). E-support have tried to help, via many emails, with this problem. They argue that I must be doing something wrong because the new BIOS sees the full 60G of my Boot drive (as did my old BIOS) and therefore it cannot be faulty. All cables are connected correctly. The new drive is set as secondary master. The jumpers are all correct on all devices. There is no limit jumper on the new drive. I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. I have read every Microsoft article about large drives in ME but this cannot be a Windows issue anyway, can it? I have the newest chipset drives from my motherboard manufacturer. My IDE controller should support large drives. Why can my old and new BIOS see the full extent of a 60G drive but only 32,248M of a 120G drive. E-support say this is impossible. They say it must see 60G in both and should see all of the 120G drive. I can only say that they have tried very hard to resolve this. I don't want to return my new BIOS flash and get a refund because im just back where I started. Any ideas please so that I can pass them to E-support. Thanks a lot Nigel Motherboard Mercury (Kobian) KOB 845 NFSX) Chipset Intel 1A30 rev 3 120 GIG Seagate drive (model ST3120022A) Microsoft Windows ME Version: 4.90.3000 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500 Mhz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Release 5.0) AwardBIOS Upgrade Provided by eSupport.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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Hi Lago
I remember your original post; the latest bios i could find was version 1.0f which I don't think is too far removed from the original (www.treiber.de). Do you have a friend with a large drive that doesn't mind lending it to you long enough to see if your BIOS can see it? Or if it's local, perhaps the store you purchased it from can give you a trade-in or lend you one just to see. Rick Lago Jardin wrote: Sorry the link to esupport is incorrect in my previous post. It should have been http://www.esupport.com/ Sorry Nigel "Lago Jardin" wrote in message . .. Hi Some of u may remember my posting before about this subject. My Boot drive is 60G and my old BIOS saw that OK and Fdisk partitioned it OK some time ago. For extra storage. I bought a Seagate 120G drive and my then present BIOS would not see more than 32,248M of the new drive. I then used Seagate's DDO which worked OK for a few days and it did enable me to format and use the whole drive. However, after a while, new, large, garbled, phantom folders began appearing. They could not be deleted. It was not possible to use either scandisk or defrag on the drive because of the DDO. I decided to remove the DDO with Seagate tools and go for a BIOS flash upgrade. I went to www.E-support.com and a link on their website tested my old BIOS and said that an upgrade was available which would support up to 512G drives. It was specifically designed for my motherboard. It cost about £14. The flash was sent in an email with full instructions and was very easy. Unfortunately, the new BIOS still only showed the same disk drive space as the old one. Even using Fdisk (the one in ME which supports larger drives), it could only see and partition 32,248M of the new drive (100% used as primary dos partition). E-support have tried to help, via many emails, with this problem. They argue that I must be doing something wrong because the new BIOS sees the full 60G of my Boot drive (as did my old BIOS) and therefore it cannot be faulty. All cables are connected correctly. The new drive is set as secondary master. The jumpers are all correct on all devices. There is no limit jumper on the new drive. I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. I have read every Microsoft article about large drives in ME but this cannot be a Windows issue anyway, can it? I have the newest chipset drives from my motherboard manufacturer. My IDE controller should support large drives. Why can my old and new BIOS see the full extent of a 60G drive but only 32,248M of a 120G drive. E-support say this is impossible. They say it must see 60G in both and should see all of the 120G drive. I can only say that they have tried very hard to resolve this. I don't want to return my new BIOS flash and get a refund because im just back where I started. Any ideas please so that I can pass them to E-support. Thanks a lot Nigel Motherboard Mercury (Kobian) KOB 845 NFSX) Chipset Intel 1A30 rev 3 120 GIG Seagate drive (model ST3120022A) Microsoft Windows ME Version: 4.90.3000 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500 Mhz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Release 5.0) AwardBIOS Upgrade Provided by eSupport.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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Hi Rick
Yer its a good idea. I will work on it. It would be no problem if I was back in Leeds in the UK but im near Alicante Spain. I help people a lot here with their computers but usually they have oldish ones with nothing above 40GIG or they buy a new notebook version. But if I can think of someone ...its definitely worth a try. Thanks Nigel "Rick T" wrote in message ... Hi Lago I remember your original post; the latest bios i could find was version 1.0f which I don't think is too far removed from the original (www.treiber.de). Do you have a friend with a large drive that doesn't mind lending it to you long enough to see if your BIOS can see it? Or if it's local, perhaps the store you purchased it from can give you a trade-in or lend you one just to see. Rick Lago Jardin wrote: Sorry the link to esupport is incorrect in my previous post. It should have been http://www.esupport.com/ Sorry Nigel "Lago Jardin" wrote in message . .. Hi Some of u may remember my posting before about this subject. My Boot drive is 60G and my old BIOS saw that OK and Fdisk partitioned it OK some time ago. For extra storage. I bought a Seagate 120G drive and my then present BIOS would not see more than 32,248M of the new drive. I then used Seagate's DDO which worked OK for a few days and it did enable me to format and use the whole drive. However, after a while, new, large, garbled, phantom folders began appearing. They could not be deleted. It was not possible to use either scandisk or defrag on the drive because of the DDO. I decided to remove the DDO with Seagate tools and go for a BIOS flash upgrade. I went to www.E-support.com and a link on their website tested my old BIOS and said that an upgrade was available which would support up to 512G drives. It was specifically designed for my motherboard. It cost about £14. The flash was sent in an email with full instructions and was very easy. Unfortunately, the new BIOS still only showed the same disk drive space as the old one. Even using Fdisk (the one in ME which supports larger drives), it could only see and partition 32,248M of the new drive (100% used as primary dos partition). E-support have tried to help, via many emails, with this problem. They argue that I must be doing something wrong because the new BIOS sees the full 60G of my Boot drive (as did my old BIOS) and therefore it cannot be faulty. All cables are connected correctly. The new drive is set as secondary master. The jumpers are all correct on all devices. There is no limit jumper on the new drive. I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. I have read every Microsoft article about large drives in ME but this cannot be a Windows issue anyway, can it? I have the newest chipset drives from my motherboard manufacturer. My IDE controller should support large drives. Why can my old and new BIOS see the full extent of a 60G drive but only 32,248M of a 120G drive. E-support say this is impossible. They say it must see 60G in both and should see all of the 120G drive. I can only say that they have tried very hard to resolve this. I don't want to return my new BIOS flash and get a refund because im just back where I started. Any ideas please so that I can pass them to E-support. Thanks a lot Nigel Motherboard Mercury (Kobian) KOB 845 NFSX) Chipset Intel 1A30 rev 3 120 GIG Seagate drive (model ST3120022A) Microsoft Windows ME Version: 4.90.3000 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500 Mhz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Release 5.0) AwardBIOS Upgrade Provided by eSupport.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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Mike
Yes...ur right really. Half way thru typing it I thought I was getting "off topic" Its not a Windows issue at all. I guess I was getting desperate!! Sorry and I will look for a more suitable n/g and get desperate there. Nigel "Mike M" wrote in message ... Nigel, I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. This is probably much better posted to a newsgroup supporting your motherboard as your problem has nothing to do with the operating system. The operating system can only see whatever the bios sees and your post stated that even after flashing the bios still only sees 32,248M. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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Nigel,
I wasn't trying to say don't post here, just that you might fare better by posting to a NG supporting your mobo as well as this. As to the problem, I'm sorry I haven't a clue. I've been in the same position myself. Moved an 80GB hard disk from one system to another, both using the same motherboard and suddenly couldn't see the hard disk at all. Tore out what little remained of my hair, kicked the cat because of the data I'd lost only the next day to realise that the motherboards had different versions of the bios. Updating the bios on the second mobo to match the first solved the problem. Sadly though this doesn't seem to have worked for yourself. I'd be interested in hearing what the answer is once you've found it. Ideas. None really but you might want to try removing the mobo battery and/or clearing CMOS just in case it clears something. You might even want to try flashing the bios again in case the initial flash was bad in some way. Best of luck, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Lago Jardin wrote: Mike Yes...ur right really. Half way thru typing it I thought I was getting "off topic" Its not a Windows issue at all. I guess I was getting desperate!! Sorry and I will look for a more suitable n/g and get desperate there. |
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Thanks Mike
I will do that in the morning...ive just come in from having a "pint" I can certainly remove the CMOS jumper and remove the battery. Im also going to email Mercury (Kobian) since they have given all rights to esupport for award BIOS upgrades. Dont know if i will get a reply tho. I just hate problems that I cant solve. I have not yet found a suitable n/g. but i really thank you for your advice. I will post here if/when I solve my problem. I wish I understood a little more about the BIOS and how it relates to the motherboard/chipset...but i guess that gets very techy.....im getting well off topic again!!! Thanks again Nigel "Mike M" wrote in message ... Nigel, I wasn't trying to say don't post here, just that you might fare better by posting to a NG supporting your mobo as well as this. As to the problem, I'm sorry I haven't a clue. I've been in the same position myself. Moved an 80GB hard disk from one system to another, both using the same motherboard and suddenly couldn't see the hard disk at all. Tore out what little remained of my hair, kicked the cat because of the data I'd lost only the next day to realise that the motherboards had different versions of the bios. Updating the bios on the second mobo to match the first solved the problem. Sadly though this doesn't seem to have worked for yourself. I'd be interested in hearing what the answer is once you've found it. Ideas. None really but you might want to try removing the mobo battery and/or clearing CMOS just in case it clears something. You might even want to try flashing the bios again in case the initial flash was bad in some way. Best of luck, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Lago Jardin wrote: Mike Yes...ur right really. Half way thru typing it I thought I was getting "off topic" Its not a Windows issue at all. I guess I was getting desperate!! Sorry and I will look for a more suitable n/g and get desperate there. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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I can't think of anything that would cause that ... a virus wouldn't be
able to trash the system/HD drive BIOSes (which is where that stuff would be) so it sounds like a MB or HD hardware fault of some sort. Rick Lago Jardin wrote: Hi Rick Yer its a good idea. I will work on it. It would be no problem if I was back in Leeds in the UK but im near Alicante Spain. I help people a lot here with their computers but usually they have oldish ones with nothing above 40GIG or they buy a new notebook version. But if I can think of someone ...its definitely worth a try. Thanks Nigel "Rick T" wrote in message ... Hi Lago I remember your original post; the latest bios i could find was version 1.0f which I don't think is too far removed from the original (www.treiber.de). Do you have a friend with a large drive that doesn't mind lending it to you long enough to see if your BIOS can see it? Or if it's local, perhaps the store you purchased it from can give you a trade-in or lend you one just to see. Rick Lago Jardin wrote: Sorry the link to esupport is incorrect in my previous post. It should have been http://www.esupport.com/ Sorry Nigel "Lago Jardin" wrote in message . es... Hi Some of u may remember my posting before about this subject. My Boot drive is 60G and my old BIOS saw that OK and Fdisk partitioned it OK some time ago. For extra storage. I bought a Seagate 120G drive and my then present BIOS would not see more than 32,248M of the new drive. I then used Seagate's DDO which worked OK for a few days and it did enable me to format and use the whole drive. However, after a while, new, large, garbled, phantom folders began appearing. They could not be deleted. It was not possible to use either scandisk or defrag on the drive because of the DDO. I decided to remove the DDO with Seagate tools and go for a BIOS flash upgrade. I went to www.E-support.com and a link on their website tested my old BIOS and said that an upgrade was available which would support up to 512G drives. It was specifically designed for my motherboard. It cost about £14. The flash was sent in an email with full instructions and was very easy. Unfortunately, the new BIOS still only showed the same disk drive space as the old one. Even using Fdisk (the one in ME which supports larger drives), it could only see and partition 32,248M of the new drive (100% used as primary dos partition). E-support have tried to help, via many emails, with this problem. They argue that I must be doing something wrong because the new BIOS sees the full 60G of my Boot drive (as did my old BIOS) and therefore it cannot be faulty. All cables are connected correctly. The new drive is set as secondary master. The jumpers are all correct on all devices. There is no limit jumper on the new drive. I have even disconnected all other drives/CD/DVD and tried the new drive as Primary Master but the BIOS still only sees 32,248M. I have read every Microsoft article about large drives in ME but this cannot be a Windows issue anyway, can it? I have the newest chipset drives from my motherboard manufacturer. My IDE controller should support large drives. Why can my old and new BIOS see the full extent of a 60G drive but only 32,248M of a 120G drive. E-support say this is impossible. They say it must see 60G in both and should see all of the 120G drive. I can only say that they have tried very hard to resolve this. I don't want to return my new BIOS flash and get a refund because im just back where I started. Any ideas please so that I can pass them to E-support. Thanks a lot Nigel Motherboard Mercury (Kobian) KOB 845 NFSX) Chipset Intel 1A30 rev 3 120 GIG Seagate drive (model ST3120022A) Microsoft Windows ME Version: 4.90.3000 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500 Mhz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG (Release 5.0) AwardBIOS Upgrade Provided by eSupport.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.701 / Virus Database: 458 - Release Date: 07/06/2004 |
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"Lago Jardin" wrote in message . .. I have not yet found a suitable n/g. Have you tried these? alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt uk.comp.homebuilt -- "Once in a while, I'm standing here, doing something. And I think, What in the world am I doing here? It's a big surprise." |
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