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  #31  
Old October 14th 05, 04:38 PM
winner5+63
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Is there not a utility called Backup that is in Windows98, that runs to keep
5 copies of files in case of breakdown? Yes that deleted file was
recreated. I have just read the log file for scheduled tasks. Something
ain't right. McAfee.com seems to be running off thin air.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand. What Backup? And what does it have to do with that
folder? I thought you said the folder was deleted. Have you tried again?

Are
you saying that it was perhaps recreated?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
The folder did not delete.I seem to have a problem with Backup(besides
outdatedness), it creates 5 copies The cab file was created today, I
believe the orginal time was right after my updates for Windows(will

check).
It now has a different time, but does not move.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
It was a temporary folder that Windows Updates used. Normally it's
automatically deleted, but you perhaps ran into some error and had to
forcefully abort a WU session, perhaps do a hard reset of the system?

Not sure what's up with Task Scheduler, though I don't recall seeing

it
listed in your MSINFO32 list, which means that the message is

correct --
Task Scheduler isn't running at startup like it should. We'll deal

with
that
along with several other things when I can get finished analyzing and
writing up a list of procedures.

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Okay. I deleted and dumped the Bin. What was it? The TS message

read:
"Some tasks did not execute at their scheduled times because the

Task
Scheduler service was not running. You can view the list of missed

tasks,
and attempt to run them again, from within the Scheduled Tasks

folder".
I've tried to work around it but it won't go in background. Have to

click
on Okay button to get out, because X is grayed out. I have opened

folder
and
run the tasks, and also watched as the tasks executed at their

scheduled
times and reset. All seemed well. Now I just click out and

continue.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sure you can call me Gary, but my friends know me as GAry.

Remind me, what does the Task Scheduler error message say,

*exactly*?

Reboot and then delete that wudnld20.tmp folder. Just delete the

entire
folder.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
THANK YOU GARY! May I call you Gary? Yes, I have McAfee set up

for
automatic update downloads. Not sure about the Task Scheduler

though.
Still getting message box at bootup. Yes, I scanned, in Safe

Mode(no
infected files). I found a cab file in C:\Windows\wudnld20.tmp:
Iudent.cab
(8kb). It was a certificate file for Microsoft. Certiificate

looked
ok,
but
I noticed the time on the timestamp kept ticking(adding

minutes).
Strange!
I did not install the certificate. Need more info. What's up

with
this?
It
is a hidden file. I set computer to show all files months ago.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"winner5+63" wrote in

message
...
Hello the

Couldn't find you guys in OE, so, here we are again.

Report:
Selected
KB's
for startup. Had problems after that (no comment).

Downloaded
and
hopefully
installed updates 896688 and 904706, proceded to system

freeze
and
fatal
excption errors:

2647:014f6b7---0246:014747FB---0506:0147268B,
and
the
black
screen of death. Had to c-a-d out. Yesterday I recieved a

virus
alert
from
"administrator about a viral

attachment:
bdnynxgi.pif, infected with the W32/Swen@MM virus(es). Will

now
try
your
instructions for OE.
mejp

If you're not sure about whether or not the Updates installed,

you
can
go
get them again. Everything's running more or less OK now,

though?

Ignore that virus alert for now. It's probably nothing to do

with
you
except
that some bad guy out there used your email address as a From
address
to
send virus-laden SPAM out to others. The receiving server

can't
tell
that
it's really not you that's sending the email, so it tells you

about
it.
You're using McAfee right now, yes? And it's up to date? Have

you
run
a
full
scan of your system lately?

Good luck with OE. There are shortcuts I could give you, but I

think
setting
it up the way I previously suggested will work best for you.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

















  #32  
Old October 14th 05, 05:10 PM
Gary S. Terhune
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

What I believe you're speaking of is SCANREGW, which makes a small backup
everyday, usually keeping the five most recent though you can change that
parameter. All that's included in these backups are the Registry files
(USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT), plus WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI and MSDOS.SYS. The
backups are stored in C:\Windows\SYSBCKUP, a Hidden folder, in files named
RBnnn.CAB, where nnn is a number.

From what I read, the solution to the issue you're having with that
wudnld20.tmp folder is to reinstall the last Updates you did. IIRC, you
installed Tuesday's Updates? I suggest you go back to Windows Updates. First
click on the Personalize link at left and check the item that says "Show
Windows Updates Catalog" or something like that. Save the Settings, then
you'll notice the new link on the left to Windows Updates Catalog under the
See Also section. Choose that one, then click the obvious link, then choose
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition from the drop-down, then Search. On
the next screen, choose the top one, "Critical Updates and Service Packs".
Wait for the list to load, then change the Sort by box from Title to Posted
Date. That will put last Tuesday's Updates at the top, KB896688 and
KB904706. Add them, then click on the Go to Download Basket link, above.
Now, before browsing to a Save location for these downloads, first create a
new folder to put them in, maybe C:\Downloads. Then browse for that folder.

The downloads will be saved to the folder you chose, but within a series of
nested folders. You have to keep drilling through those folders until you
get to the Update. Now, before proceeding, do the Clean Boot procedure.
Disconnect from the internet, etc. Then run the Updates, on eat a time,
restarting after *each* one. Then re-enable your usual Startup list and
resume working (or playing, as the case may be.)

I'm still working on that other, but keep on asking other questions as they
come up. I'm learning more and more about your system with every message you
post.

As for Task Scheduler, please open TS and tell us what Scheduled Tasks are
listed there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Is there not a utility called Backup that is in Windows98, that runs to

keep
5 copies of files in case of breakdown? Yes that deleted file was
recreated. I have just read the log file for scheduled tasks. Something
ain't right. McAfee.com seems to be running off thin air.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand. What Backup? And what does it have to do with that
folder? I thought you said the folder was deleted. Have you tried again?

Are
you saying that it was perhaps recreated?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
The folder did not delete.I seem to have a problem with Backup(besides
outdatedness), it creates 5 copies The cab file was created today, I
believe the orginal time was right after my updates for Windows(will

check).
It now has a different time, but does not move.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
It was a temporary folder that Windows Updates used. Normally it's
automatically deleted, but you perhaps ran into some error and had

to
forcefully abort a WU session, perhaps do a hard reset of the

system?

Not sure what's up with Task Scheduler, though I don't recall seeing

it
listed in your MSINFO32 list, which means that the message is

correct --
Task Scheduler isn't running at startup like it should. We'll deal

with
that
along with several other things when I can get finished analyzing

and
writing up a list of procedures.

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Okay. I deleted and dumped the Bin. What was it? The TS message

read:
"Some tasks did not execute at their scheduled times because the

Task
Scheduler service was not running. You can view the list of

missed
tasks,
and attempt to run them again, from within the Scheduled Tasks

folder".
I've tried to work around it but it won't go in background. Have

to
click
on Okay button to get out, because X is grayed out. I have opened

folder
and
run the tasks, and also watched as the tasks executed at their

scheduled
times and reset. All seemed well. Now I just click out and

continue.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sure you can call me Gary, but my friends know me as GAry.

Remind me, what does the Task Scheduler error message say,

*exactly*?

Reboot and then delete that wudnld20.tmp folder. Just delete the
entire
folder.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User



  #33  
Old October 14th 05, 08:44 PM
winner5+63
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I may have helped things a little by calling Microsoft's PC Safety Tech
help. They ran Ad-Ware and found 70+ adware objects. Let's see what happens
now. Otherwise, I am exhausted. Post you later.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I believe you're speaking of is SCANREGW, which makes a small backup
everyday, usually keeping the five most recent though you can change that
parameter. All that's included in these backups are the Registry files
(USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT), plus WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI and MSDOS.SYS. The
backups are stored in C:\Windows\SYSBCKUP, a Hidden folder, in files named
RBnnn.CAB, where nnn is a number.

From what I read, the solution to the issue you're having with that
wudnld20.tmp folder is to reinstall the last Updates you did. IIRC, you
installed Tuesday's Updates? I suggest you go back to Windows Updates.

First
click on the Personalize link at left and check the item that says "Show
Windows Updates Catalog" or something like that. Save the Settings, then
you'll notice the new link on the left to Windows Updates Catalog under

the
See Also section. Choose that one, then click the obvious link, then

choose
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition from the drop-down, then Search.

On
the next screen, choose the top one, "Critical Updates and Service Packs".
Wait for the list to load, then change the Sort by box from Title to

Posted
Date. That will put last Tuesday's Updates at the top, KB896688 and
KB904706. Add them, then click on the Go to Download Basket link, above.
Now, before browsing to a Save location for these downloads, first create

a
new folder to put them in, maybe C:\Downloads. Then browse for that

folder.

The downloads will be saved to the folder you chose, but within a series

of
nested folders. You have to keep drilling through those folders until you
get to the Update. Now, before proceeding, do the Clean Boot procedure.
Disconnect from the internet, etc. Then run the Updates, on eat a time,
restarting after *each* one. Then re-enable your usual Startup list and
resume working (or playing, as the case may be.)

I'm still working on that other, but keep on asking other questions as

they
come up. I'm learning more and more about your system with every message

you
post.

As for Task Scheduler, please open TS and tell us what Scheduled Tasks are
listed there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Is there not a utility called Backup that is in Windows98, that runs to

keep
5 copies of files in case of breakdown? Yes that deleted file was
recreated. I have just read the log file for scheduled tasks.

Something
ain't right. McAfee.com seems to be running off thin air.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand. What Backup? And what does it have to do with that
folder? I thought you said the folder was deleted. Have you tried

again?
Are
you saying that it was perhaps recreated?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
The folder did not delete.I seem to have a problem with

Backup(besides
outdatedness), it creates 5 copies The cab file was created today,

I
believe the orginal time was right after my updates for Windows(will
check).
It now has a different time, but does not move.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
It was a temporary folder that Windows Updates used. Normally it's
automatically deleted, but you perhaps ran into some error and had

to
forcefully abort a WU session, perhaps do a hard reset of the

system?

Not sure what's up with Task Scheduler, though I don't recall

seeing
it
listed in your MSINFO32 list, which means that the message is

correct --
Task Scheduler isn't running at startup like it should. We'll deal

with
that
along with several other things when I can get finished analyzing

and
writing up a list of procedures.

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Okay. I deleted and dumped the Bin. What was it? The TS

message
read:
"Some tasks did not execute at their scheduled times because the

Task
Scheduler service was not running. You can view the list of

missed
tasks,
and attempt to run them again, from within the Scheduled Tasks
folder".
I've tried to work around it but it won't go in background.

Have
to
click
on Okay button to get out, because X is grayed out. I have

opened
folder
and
run the tasks, and also watched as the tasks executed at their
scheduled
times and reset. All seemed well. Now I just click out and

continue.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sure you can call me Gary, but my friends know me as GAry.

Remind me, what does the Task Scheduler error message say,
*exactly*?

Reboot and then delete that wudnld20.tmp folder. Just delete

the
entire
folder.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User





  #34  
Old October 14th 05, 09:13 PM
Gary S. Terhune
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

That's Ad-'A'ware (quotes are mine). It detects and removes Ad-Ware, s.

You didn't have to call MS to get that info, though I applaud that you did
so. Have you yet read my article?
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
I may have helped things a little by calling Microsoft's PC Safety Tech
help. They ran Ad-Ware and found 70+ adware objects. Let's see what

happens
now. Otherwise, I am exhausted. Post you later.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I believe you're speaking of is SCANREGW, which makes a small

backup
everyday, usually keeping the five most recent though you can change

that
parameter. All that's included in these backups are the Registry files
(USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT), plus WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI and MSDOS.SYS. The
backups are stored in C:\Windows\SYSBCKUP, a Hidden folder, in files

named
RBnnn.CAB, where nnn is a number.

From what I read, the solution to the issue you're having with that
wudnld20.tmp folder is to reinstall the last Updates you did. IIRC, you
installed Tuesday's Updates? I suggest you go back to Windows Updates.

First
click on the Personalize link at left and check the item that says "Show
Windows Updates Catalog" or something like that. Save the Settings, then
you'll notice the new link on the left to Windows Updates Catalog under

the
See Also section. Choose that one, then click the obvious link, then

choose
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition from the drop-down, then

Search.
On
the next screen, choose the top one, "Critical Updates and Service

Packs".
Wait for the list to load, then change the Sort by box from Title to

Posted
Date. That will put last Tuesday's Updates at the top, KB896688 and
KB904706. Add them, then click on the Go to Download Basket link, above.
Now, before browsing to a Save location for these downloads, first

create
a
new folder to put them in, maybe C:\Downloads. Then browse for that

folder.

The downloads will be saved to the folder you chose, but within a series

of
nested folders. You have to keep drilling through those folders until

you
get to the Update. Now, before proceeding, do the Clean Boot procedure.
Disconnect from the internet, etc. Then run the Updates, on eat a time,
restarting after *each* one. Then re-enable your usual Startup list and
resume working (or playing, as the case may be.)

I'm still working on that other, but keep on asking other questions as

they
come up. I'm learning more and more about your system with every message

you
post.

As for Task Scheduler, please open TS and tell us what Scheduled Tasks

are
listed there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Is there not a utility called Backup that is in Windows98, that runs

to
keep
5 copies of files in case of breakdown? Yes that deleted file was
recreated. I have just read the log file for scheduled tasks.

Something
ain't right. McAfee.com seems to be running off thin air.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand. What Backup? And what does it have to do with

that
folder? I thought you said the folder was deleted. Have you tried

again?
Are
you saying that it was perhaps recreated?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
The folder did not delete.I seem to have a problem with

Backup(besides
outdatedness), it creates 5 copies The cab file was created

today,
I
believe the orginal time was right after my updates for

Windows(will
check).
It now has a different time, but does not move.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
It was a temporary folder that Windows Updates used. Normally

it's
automatically deleted, but you perhaps ran into some error and

had
to
forcefully abort a WU session, perhaps do a hard reset of the

system?

Not sure what's up with Task Scheduler, though I don't recall

seeing
it
listed in your MSINFO32 list, which means that the message is
correct --
Task Scheduler isn't running at startup like it should. We'll

deal
with
that
along with several other things when I can get finished

analyzing
and
writing up a list of procedures.

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Okay. I deleted and dumped the Bin. What was it? The TS

message
read:
"Some tasks did not execute at their scheduled times because

the
Task
Scheduler service was not running. You can view the list of

missed
tasks,
and attempt to run them again, from within the Scheduled Tasks
folder".
I've tried to work around it but it won't go in background.

Have
to
click
on Okay button to get out, because X is grayed out. I have

opened
folder
and
run the tasks, and also watched as the tasks executed at their
scheduled
times and reset. All seemed well. Now I just click out and
continue.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sure you can call me Gary, but my friends know me as GAry.

Remind me, what does the Task Scheduler error message say,
*exactly*?

Reboot and then delete that wudnld20.tmp folder. Just delete

the
entire
folder.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User







  #35  
Old October 15th 05, 12:34 AM
winner5+63
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Well now, someone finally persuaded me to click on a link. I read and
printed your article. At this point I'm sort of suffering from 'info'
shock. My head feels a little numb. I found another Windows utility called
'update information tool, but did'nt write down the path to it. I gotta go
play now. My scheduled tasks a McAfee Update Checker; Windows Critical
Notification, scheduled to run every five minutes. I guess it only starts
when I bootup. My computer does not stay on, including my internet service.
The modem is on though.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
That's Ad-'A'ware (quotes are mine). It detects and removes Ad-Ware, s.

You didn't have to call MS to get that info, though I applaud that you did
so. Have you yet read my article?
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
I may have helped things a little by calling Microsoft's PC Safety Tech
help. They ran Ad-Ware and found 70+ adware objects. Let's see what

happens
now. Otherwise, I am exhausted. Post you later.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
What I believe you're speaking of is SCANREGW, which makes a small

backup
everyday, usually keeping the five most recent though you can change

that
parameter. All that's included in these backups are the Registry files
(USER.DAT and SYSTEM.DAT), plus WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI and MSDOS.SYS. The
backups are stored in C:\Windows\SYSBCKUP, a Hidden folder, in files

named
RBnnn.CAB, where nnn is a number.

From what I read, the solution to the issue you're having with that
wudnld20.tmp folder is to reinstall the last Updates you did. IIRC,

you
installed Tuesday's Updates? I suggest you go back to Windows Updates.

First
click on the Personalize link at left and check the item that says

"Show
Windows Updates Catalog" or something like that. Save the Settings,

then
you'll notice the new link on the left to Windows Updates Catalog

under
the
See Also section. Choose that one, then click the obvious link, then

choose
Windows 98 and Windows 98 Second Edition from the drop-down, then

Search.
On
the next screen, choose the top one, "Critical Updates and Service

Packs".
Wait for the list to load, then change the Sort by box from Title to

Posted
Date. That will put last Tuesday's Updates at the top, KB896688 and
KB904706. Add them, then click on the Go to Download Basket link,

above.
Now, before browsing to a Save location for these downloads, first

create
a
new folder to put them in, maybe C:\Downloads. Then browse for that

folder.

The downloads will be saved to the folder you chose, but within a

series
of
nested folders. You have to keep drilling through those folders until

you
get to the Update. Now, before proceeding, do the Clean Boot

procedure.
Disconnect from the internet, etc. Then run the Updates, on eat a

time,
restarting after *each* one. Then re-enable your usual Startup list

and
resume working (or playing, as the case may be.)

I'm still working on that other, but keep on asking other questions as

they
come up. I'm learning more and more about your system with every

message
you
post.

As for Task Scheduler, please open TS and tell us what Scheduled Tasks

are
listed there.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User


"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Is there not a utility called Backup that is in Windows98, that runs

to
keep
5 copies of files in case of breakdown? Yes that deleted file was
recreated. I have just read the log file for scheduled tasks.

Something
ain't right. McAfee.com seems to be running off thin air.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
I don't understand. What Backup? And what does it have to do with

that
folder? I thought you said the folder was deleted. Have you tried

again?
Are
you saying that it was perhaps recreated?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
The folder did not delete.I seem to have a problem with

Backup(besides
outdatedness), it creates 5 copies The cab file was created

today,
I
believe the orginal time was right after my updates for

Windows(will
check).
It now has a different time, but does not move.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
It was a temporary folder that Windows Updates used. Normally

it's
automatically deleted, but you perhaps ran into some error and

had
to
forcefully abort a WU session, perhaps do a hard reset of the
system?

Not sure what's up with Task Scheduler, though I don't recall

seeing
it
listed in your MSINFO32 list, which means that the message is
correct --
Task Scheduler isn't running at startup like it should. We'll

deal
with
that
along with several other things when I can get finished

analyzing
and
writing up a list of procedures.

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Okay. I deleted and dumped the Bin. What was it? The TS

message
read:
"Some tasks did not execute at their scheduled times because

the
Task
Scheduler service was not running. You can view the list of
missed
tasks,
and attempt to run them again, from within the Scheduled

Tasks
folder".
I've tried to work around it but it won't go in background.

Have
to
click
on Okay button to get out, because X is grayed out. I have

opened
folder
and
run the tasks, and also watched as the tasks executed at

their
scheduled
times and reset. All seemed well. Now I just click out and
continue.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sure you can call me Gary, but my friends know me as GAry.

Remind me, what does the Task Scheduler error message say,
*exactly*?

Reboot and then delete that wudnld20.tmp folder. Just

delete
the
entire
folder.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User








  #36  
Old October 16th 05, 02:15 AM
Gary S. Terhune
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system analysis

Mary,

Sorry this took so long. I needed to make sure I was squared off enough to
give it the attention it needs. My comments are inline, and I'll have to see
if I can work in some snippage.

xCal reminder C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works
Share\wkcalrem.exe


Works Calendar Reminder -- Parts of Works program. You haven't yet

cleared
the air on this topic: Do you or do you not have Works currently

installed?
By the way, this one doesn't look like it came from the MSINFO32 list,
though there's an identical one below that *does* appear to have come

from
MSINFO32.


Didn't realize that Works Calendar is a seperate application, until now.


That doesn't answer my question. Do you or do you not have Works currently
installed? Look in Add/Remove Programs.

xrun= hpfsched


Supports HP printer or scanner or Multi-Function device, perhaps other

HP
devices. Do you have such a thing? What brand is your computer? Your
printer? Your scanner?


Computer: HP Pavilion 8665c; Scanner: HP Scanjet 4470c(1200dpi/48-bit
color) with Scanjet xpa; Printer: HP Deskjet932c; Monitor was Nec(loved

it)
17" monitor, but because of tonnage and bad back had to leave when I
relocated; now, have Gateway 17" I retrieved from garbage room in

building;
Keyboard is not USB Scanjet is USB; ISP: Verizon with MSN6 and McAfee
Security Suite8 or9 bundled Westell VersaLink Model 327 modem provided.

MSN
was problematic so I tried to uninstall and use Verizon's layout.
'Reinstalled' MSN's bells and whistles, I don't use The Messenger anymore.


I, too, like the old NEC monitors.

Why do you use MSN? Just because the Verizon installation came with CDs and
suggested that you install it? You do not need MSN or any other installed
applications in order to use your Verizon ISP. I've already stated my
opinion of McAfee. I think you should switch to something else, like ETrust.

xMicrosoft Works Calendar Reminders Startup Group "C:\Program

Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared \wkcalrem.exe"


Same exact entry as the first one, except this one looks like it really

came
from the MSINFO32 list, since it has the notation that tells us where

the
command resides (it's a shortcut in the Start\Programs\Startup folder.)

Even
if you have Works installed, there should only be one of these.


I used the Works 2000(not the suite, but has processor, spreadsheet, and
database) disk that came with the computer in attempting to reinstall
missing files, and finally in uninstalling whole program. Program had two
listings in Start/Programs listing before I returned to Internet. As i

said
'my' Works is a resource hog, and didn't work well with other programs.

The
other reasons for uninstalling it a The ruler option was grayed out;

The
find option would only find one word out of a document that had many of

the
same word; And the documents that I had saved as Word files later proved

to
be inaccessible. I had planned to buy Word.


So, are you saying that you've totally uninstalled Works? If so, that
directly impacts what I may suggest with regards to the Startup commands
that remain.

xTaskbar Display Controls Registry (Per-User Run) RunDLL
deskcp16.dll,QUICKRES_RUNDLLENTRY


This one is to put an icon in the System Tray (next to the clock) where

you
can quickly change the screen resolution. This command should be deleted

if
you aren't in the habit of frequently changing display resolution.

Again,
wait until the analysis is complete before actually doing anything.

We'll
l ay out a series of procedures for you to follow when the time comes.


Does this also control other icons, such as the Compact Mouse that I
installed. It is an icon that is a mouse with animated eyes that follow

or
locates the pointer for you. It was fun in the beginning but annoying
later. The Mouse has no ball under the bottom, but a red light that cuts
down on space needed and the cleaning of that infernal rubber ball. But,

as
is my fate it is a resource hog. Probably the humonguos help file. And
possibly adware?


No, this app deals with video resolution and nothing else. That icon you're
talking about is probably provided by another program that is listed below,
"Gnetmous "

xMicrosoft Works Update Detection Registry (Per-User Run)

\WkDetect.exe

More Works.

And, no updates for version after 4.5? Mine is 5.0 Though I've seen for
files for version6 on my computer.


I have no idea what updates are available. But it's not uncommon to see
files
that claim a later version. They're from updates. It doesn't mean you have
fully upgraded to version 6, only that you've updated certain components to
version 6 levels. It's quite common in MS applications and operating
systems.

MCUpdateExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\MCUPDATE.EXE
MCAgentExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\mcagent.exe
VsecomrEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSEcomR.EXE
VsStatEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSSTAT.EXE /SHOWWARNING

All four of the above are from McAfee Antivirus. Is it up to date? Can

you
f igure out what version it is for us? You can usually find that info in
HelpAbout. Regardless, McAfee AV may be bogging down and even messing

up
your system. There are other, better solutions out there, in my opinion,
free ones like AVG and AVAST, or paid ones like ETrust. I use ETrust.

You
can get the first year free by going he
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft


But remember, don't do anything yet. If you decide to change antivirus
applications, the first
trick may be to get McAfee to uninstall properly.
Computer came with McAfee VirusScan version 4 installed, in 2000. Files

are
still in system I guess. Is one of those things I didn't want reinstalled.
Had bought version 5 or an update in 2000-01(on internet) I was a Net

virgin
back then, but found out 4 did not recognize 5's modules, or something

like
that. Lost: $29. Also purchased WinZip8.0(now have 9c update, hopefully)
Question?: Why didn't I lose Winzip when I recovered my hard drive with

the
Recovery Disc--- I lost all the Windows updates. Did that in 2001, and got
off Internet after 8 months of hell. Am back April 13, 2005! With a
vengeance(I whispered that because the gremlins are still in there).


When you "overinstall" Windows 98, you only overwrite system files (some of
which *may* affect applications installations so that you have to reinstall,
but not usually.)

TaskMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe


This is the one that creates all those logs in the APPLOG folder. If you
decide you
don't need Defrag to Optimize your files, then this one can be gotten rid
of.

SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe


The Tray is that box at the far right of the TaskBar, where the clock
resides. A few of the icons that get placed there, like the Volume

Control,
for example, need for SysTray to load. You should leave it enabled.
Does this included the Mouse icon too!?


No, it does not include the mouse icon. Like I said, what's called the
"System Tray" is that whole area with small icons next to the clock. But the
SYSTRAY application is only involved in a couple, Volume Control usually
being the only one most users know about.

VSOCheckTask Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\MCMNHDLR.EXE" /checktask
VirusScan Online Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\mcvsshld.exe"

More McAfee.

Gnetmous Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\COMPAQ\Scroll

Mouse\gnetmous.exe

Supports your mouse and may or may not be necessary, depending on whether
you need extra customizations for the mouse beyond the basics
(reprogrammable buttons, for instance.) Normally, I do not install such
software, but sometimes it's necessary. The only way to know is to run for

a
while with it disabled and see if you notice any difference.
The Mouse again!

Motive SmartBridge Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe

Looks like a mechanism used by your ISP (Verizon, right?) that assists

with
their internet support. Not usually necessary. I'd delete this command,

but
I think perhaps you should leave it -- unless we discover that it truly is
causing problems. Note that deleting a Startup command isn't the same

thing
as Uninstalling the program. Deleting the command just stops it from

loading
at Startup and from appearing as a disabled item in MSCONFIG (ideally,
during normal running, MSCONFIG should be set to Normal Startup, with
nothing disabled.)
Verizon yes.

CriticalUpdate Registry (Machine Run)

c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup

Leave this one unless we discover that it's causing problems. It's a
Scheduled Tasks that checks every so often to see if you're connected to

the
internet, and if you are, it checks for new Critical Updates from Windows
Updates. Now, what's weird about this one is that you don't have any

Startup
command for Task Scheduler. If Critical Updates Notification is to work,
Task Scheduler needs to be running.
Have recurring Task Scheduler notice box that reads "Some tasks did not
execute at their scheduled times because the Task Scheduler Service was

not
running. You can view the list of missed tasks, and attempt to run them
again, from within the Scheduled Tasks folder." I shut down the computer
completely so that I might copy the message, but the message box did not
reappear on bootup. Strange! I have icons in the System Tray for McAffee
and the Task Scheduler. When the message box first started appearing

figured
it was because I pause TS and turn off the others when I defrag and

install
whatever. On checking and running the TS I found it wasn't so. The box

is
still popping up after nearly a month. I notice that it has only one exit
choice, OK option. The X is grayed out. Also, a couple of months ago the
McAfee icon indicated the program was off by turning black 'after' bootup.
I had to keep remembering to turn it on before going on line. ( I forgot a
couple of times). I check the schedules via the System Tray icon. The
scheduled times seem to be occurring(when using the computer the pointer
also blinks or freezes).The Tray icon seems to indicate that update
downloads are happening. Later, because the box appeared again after

bootup,
I shut down on restart, the message still appeared.


OK, well let's leave the TS issue until later, after you've cleaned up your
system. It may very well be one of those apps that (I hope) you're going to
uninstall -- like McAfee.

OK, now to the list of procedures. But I'm going to post those to an
entirely new thread (I'll email you when I do and tell you what the Subject
line is.) I've got a lot of it done, but I want to review it all, first.
However, have you worked your way through the articles I gave you? You
really want to get those ones down, and make sure you're malware-free before
we bother to continue. (That means you want to do all those things I
suggest, and after you've run all the other anti-spyware and anti-virus
scans, you need to finish up by posting a HijackThis log to the Aumha.net
forums for analysis, specifically to this one. Aumha.org and Aumha.net are
owned and run my MS-MVP Jim Eshelman, and staffed by lots of very good
people, including many MVPs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User



  #37  
Old October 16th 05, 03:47 AM
winner5+63
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Default system analysis

Hi there! What is inline? I chose Verizon because I use the phone service;
I didn't want dial-up; cable is expensive; and a package seemed easier than
shopping around for things I needed for netting. I did not find Works in
the Install/Remove list. In re-selected the task objects in
msconfig/startup. I need volume control, and quick launch. No I don't
change resolutions, 800x600 works for me. Higher is too small for my 17"
screen. The Works info answered a question on seeing version 6 info here
and there. I didn't reinstall Windows 98, Microsoft techs did---via
telephone. Havd done only one article, the Security article. Will have to
review the others, now that I'm sort of over linkophobia. Otherwise, things
sound good to me. See ya later.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Mary,

Sorry this took so long. I needed to make sure I was squared off enough to
give it the attention it needs. My comments are inline, and I'll have to

see
if I can work in some snippage.

xCal reminder C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works
Share\wkcalrem.exe

Works Calendar Reminder -- Parts of Works program. You haven't yet

cleared
the air on this topic: Do you or do you not have Works currently

installed?
By the way, this one doesn't look like it came from the MSINFO32 list,
though there's an identical one below that *does* appear to have come

from
MSINFO32.


Didn't realize that Works Calendar is a seperate application, until

now.

That doesn't answer my question. Do you or do you not have Works currently
installed? Look in Add/Remove Programs.

xrun= hpfsched

Supports HP printer or scanner or Multi-Function device, perhaps other

HP
devices. Do you have such a thing? What brand is your computer? Your
printer? Your scanner?


Computer: HP Pavilion 8665c; Scanner: HP Scanjet 4470c(1200dpi/48-bit
color) with Scanjet xpa; Printer: HP Deskjet932c; Monitor was Nec(loved

it)
17" monitor, but because of tonnage and bad back had to leave when I
relocated; now, have Gateway 17" I retrieved from garbage room in

building;
Keyboard is not USB Scanjet is USB; ISP: Verizon with MSN6 and McAfee
Security Suite8 or9 bundled Westell VersaLink Model 327 modem provided.

MSN
was problematic so I tried to uninstall and use Verizon's layout.
'Reinstalled' MSN's bells and whistles, I don't use The Messenger

anymore.

I, too, like the old NEC monitors.

Why do you use MSN? Just because the Verizon installation came with CDs

and
suggested that you install it? You do not need MSN or any other installed
applications in order to use your Verizon ISP. I've already stated my
opinion of McAfee. I think you should switch to something else, like

ETrust.

xMicrosoft Works Calendar Reminders Startup Group "C:\Program

Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared \wkcalrem.exe"

Same exact entry as the first one, except this one looks like it

really
came
from the MSINFO32 list, since it has the notation that tells us where

the
command resides (it's a shortcut in the Start\Programs\Startup

folder.)
Even
if you have Works installed, there should only be one of these.


I used the Works 2000(not the suite, but has processor, spreadsheet, and
database) disk that came with the computer in attempting to reinstall
missing files, and finally in uninstalling whole program. Program had

two
listings in Start/Programs listing before I returned to Internet. As i

said
'my' Works is a resource hog, and didn't work well with other programs.

The
other reasons for uninstalling it a The ruler option was grayed out;

The
find option would only find one word out of a document that had many of

the
same word; And the documents that I had saved as Word files later proved

to
be inaccessible. I had planned to buy Word.


So, are you saying that you've totally uninstalled Works? If so, that
directly impacts what I may suggest with regards to the Startup commands
that remain.

xTaskbar Display Controls Registry (Per-User Run) RunDLL
deskcp16.dll,QUICKRES_RUNDLLENTRY

This one is to put an icon in the System Tray (next to the clock)

where
you
can quickly change the screen resolution. This command should be

deleted
if
you aren't in the habit of frequently changing display resolution.

Again,
wait until the analysis is complete before actually doing anything.

We'll
l ay out a series of procedures for you to follow when the time comes.


Does this also control other icons, such as the Compact Mouse that I
installed. It is an icon that is a mouse with animated eyes that follow

or
locates the pointer for you. It was fun in the beginning but annoying
later. The Mouse has no ball under the bottom, but a red light that cuts
down on space needed and the cleaning of that infernal rubber ball. But,

as
is my fate it is a resource hog. Probably the humonguos help file. And
possibly adware?


No, this app deals with video resolution and nothing else. That icon

you're
talking about is probably provided by another program that is listed

below,
"Gnetmous "

xMicrosoft Works Update Detection Registry (Per-User Run)

\WkDetect.exe

More Works.

And, no updates for version after 4.5? Mine is 5.0 Though I've seen

for
files for version6 on my computer.


I have no idea what updates are available. But it's not uncommon to see
files
that claim a later version. They're from updates. It doesn't mean you have
fully upgraded to version 6, only that you've updated certain components

to
version 6 levels. It's quite common in MS applications and operating
systems.

MCUpdateExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\MCUPDATE.EXE
MCAgentExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\mcagent.exe
VsecomrEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSEcomR.EXE
VsStatEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSSTAT.EXE /SHOWWARNING

All four of the above are from McAfee Antivirus. Is it up to date? Can

you
f igure out what version it is for us? You can usually find that info

in
HelpAbout. Regardless, McAfee AV may be bogging down and even messing

up
your system. There are other, better solutions out there, in my

opinion,
free ones like AVG and AVAST, or paid ones like ETrust. I use ETrust.

You
can get the first year free by going he
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft


But remember, don't do anything yet. If you decide to change antivirus
applications, the first
trick may be to get McAfee to uninstall properly.
Computer came with McAfee VirusScan version 4 installed, in 2000. Files

are
still in system I guess. Is one of those things I didn't want

reinstalled.
Had bought version 5 or an update in 2000-01(on internet) I was a Net

virgin
back then, but found out 4 did not recognize 5's modules, or something

like
that. Lost: $29. Also purchased WinZip8.0(now have 9c update,

hopefully)
Question?: Why didn't I lose Winzip when I recovered my hard drive with

the
Recovery Disc--- I lost all the Windows updates. Did that in 2001, and

got
off Internet after 8 months of hell. Am back April 13, 2005! With a
vengeance(I whispered that because the gremlins are still in there).


When you "overinstall" Windows 98, you only overwrite system files (some

of
which *may* affect applications installations so that you have to

reinstall,
but not usually.)

TaskMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe


This is the one that creates all those logs in the APPLOG folder. If you
decide you
don't need Defrag to Optimize your files, then this one can be gotten

rid
of.

SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe


The Tray is that box at the far right of the TaskBar, where the clock
resides. A few of the icons that get placed there, like the Volume

Control,
for example, need for SysTray to load. You should leave it enabled.
Does this included the Mouse icon too!?


No, it does not include the mouse icon. Like I said, what's called the
"System Tray" is that whole area with small icons next to the clock. But

the
SYSTRAY application is only involved in a couple, Volume Control usually
being the only one most users know about.

VSOCheckTask Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\MCMNHDLR.EXE" /checktask
VirusScan Online Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\mcvsshld.exe"

More McAfee.

Gnetmous Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\COMPAQ\Scroll

Mouse\gnetmous.exe

Supports your mouse and may or may not be necessary, depending on

whether
you need extra customizations for the mouse beyond the basics
(reprogrammable buttons, for instance.) Normally, I do not install such
software, but sometimes it's necessary. The only way to know is to run

for
a
while with it disabled and see if you notice any difference.
The Mouse again!

Motive SmartBridge Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe

Looks like a mechanism used by your ISP (Verizon, right?) that assists

with
their internet support. Not usually necessary. I'd delete this command,

but
I think perhaps you should leave it -- unless we discover that it truly

is
causing problems. Note that deleting a Startup command isn't the same

thing
as Uninstalling the program. Deleting the command just stops it from

loading
at Startup and from appearing as a disabled item in MSCONFIG (ideally,
during normal running, MSCONFIG should be set to Normal Startup, with
nothing disabled.)
Verizon yes.

CriticalUpdate Registry (Machine Run)

c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup

Leave this one unless we discover that it's causing problems. It's a
Scheduled Tasks that checks every so often to see if you're connected to

the
internet, and if you are, it checks for new Critical Updates from

Windows
Updates. Now, what's weird about this one is that you don't have any

Startup
command for Task Scheduler. If Critical Updates Notification is to work,
Task Scheduler needs to be running.
Have recurring Task Scheduler notice box that reads "Some tasks did not
execute at their scheduled times because the Task Scheduler Service was

not
running. You can view the list of missed tasks, and attempt to run them
again, from within the Scheduled Tasks folder." I shut down the computer
completely so that I might copy the message, but the message box did not
reappear on bootup. Strange! I have icons in the System Tray for

McAffee
and the Task Scheduler. When the message box first started appearing

figured
it was because I pause TS and turn off the others when I defrag and

install
whatever. On checking and running the TS I found it wasn't so. The box

is
still popping up after nearly a month. I notice that it has only one

exit
choice, OK option. The X is grayed out. Also, a couple of months ago

the
McAfee icon indicated the program was off by turning black 'after'

bootup.
I had to keep remembering to turn it on before going on line. ( I forgot

a
couple of times). I check the schedules via the System Tray icon. The
scheduled times seem to be occurring(when using the computer the pointer
also blinks or freezes).The Tray icon seems to indicate that update
downloads are happening. Later, because the box appeared again after

bootup,
I shut down on restart, the message still appeared.


OK, well let's leave the TS issue until later, after you've cleaned up

your
system. It may very well be one of those apps that (I hope) you're going

to
uninstall -- like McAfee.

OK, now to the list of procedures. But I'm going to post those to an
entirely new thread (I'll email you when I do and tell you what the

Subject
line is.) I've got a lot of it done, but I want to review it all, first.
However, have you worked your way through the articles I gave you? You
really want to get those ones down, and make sure you're malware-free

before
we bother to continue. (That means you want to do all those things I
suggest, and after you've run all the other anti-spyware and anti-virus
scans, you need to finish up by posting a HijackThis log to the Aumha.net
forums for analysis, specifically to this one. Aumha.org and Aumha.net are
owned and run my MS-MVP Jim Eshelman, and staffed by lots of very good
people, including many MVPs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User





  #38  
Old October 16th 05, 04:08 AM
Gary S. Terhune
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system analysis

"Comments inline" refers to inserting my own comments following paragraphs
of yours -- they're not all at the top or all at the bottom. "Top-posting"
is frowned upon by purists. Inline posting can get to be real difficult to
read, and that's why I always use paragraphs and blank lines liberally. I
also tend only to use it when it's needed, preferring to top-post most of
the time. Bottom posting appeals to the, er, dogmatic natures of some who
make a big deal out of how goofy it is reading the answer before the
question in top-posts. But it can be *infuriating* if the correspondent
doesn't also trim the posts very diligently. I find it useful at times.

I wasn't questioning your use of Verizon. I was questioning your use of MSN.
There's no need, really. You can get online and get your mail and everything
else you do on the internet without it. You can even go to and use MSN.com
if that's what you like. But the extra layers of stuff that the program adds
to your computer aren't often worth it.

The rest can wait.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"winner5+63" wrote in message
...
Hi there! What is inline? I chose Verizon because I use the phone

service;
I didn't want dial-up; cable is expensive; and a package seemed easier

than
shopping around for things I needed for netting. I did not find Works in
the Install/Remove list. In re-selected the task objects in
msconfig/startup. I need volume control, and quick launch. No I don't
change resolutions, 800x600 works for me. Higher is too small for my 17"
screen. The Works info answered a question on seeing version 6 info here
and there. I didn't reinstall Windows 98, Microsoft techs did---via
telephone. Havd done only one article, the Security article. Will have to
review the others, now that I'm sort of over linkophobia. Otherwise,

things
sound good to me. See ya later.



  #39  
Old October 16th 05, 04:23 AM
winner5+63
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default system analysis

2nd post: OKay I'm busted! I just read the whole Security article. Boy!
You must really think I'm a hair ed.
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Mary,

Sorry this took so long. I needed to make sure I was squared off enough to
give it the attention it needs. My comments are inline, and I'll have to

see
if I can work in some snippage.

xCal reminder C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Works
Share\wkcalrem.exe

Works Calendar Reminder -- Parts of Works program. You haven't yet

cleared
the air on this topic: Do you or do you not have Works currently

installed?
By the way, this one doesn't look like it came from the MSINFO32 list,
though there's an identical one below that *does* appear to have come

from
MSINFO32.


Didn't realize that Works Calendar is a seperate application, until

now.

That doesn't answer my question. Do you or do you not have Works currently
installed? Look in Add/Remove Programs.

xrun= hpfsched

Supports HP printer or scanner or Multi-Function device, perhaps other

HP
devices. Do you have such a thing? What brand is your computer? Your
printer? Your scanner?


Computer: HP Pavilion 8665c; Scanner: HP Scanjet 4470c(1200dpi/48-bit
color) with Scanjet xpa; Printer: HP Deskjet932c; Monitor was Nec(loved

it)
17" monitor, but because of tonnage and bad back had to leave when I
relocated; now, have Gateway 17" I retrieved from garbage room in

building;
Keyboard is not USB Scanjet is USB; ISP: Verizon with MSN6 and McAfee
Security Suite8 or9 bundled Westell VersaLink Model 327 modem provided.

MSN
was problematic so I tried to uninstall and use Verizon's layout.
'Reinstalled' MSN's bells and whistles, I don't use The Messenger

anymore.

I, too, like the old NEC monitors.

Why do you use MSN? Just because the Verizon installation came with CDs

and
suggested that you install it? You do not need MSN or any other installed
applications in order to use your Verizon ISP. I've already stated my
opinion of McAfee. I think you should switch to something else, like

ETrust.

xMicrosoft Works Calendar Reminders Startup Group "C:\Program

Files\Common
Files\Microsoft Shared\Works Shared \wkcalrem.exe"

Same exact entry as the first one, except this one looks like it

really
came
from the MSINFO32 list, since it has the notation that tells us where

the
command resides (it's a shortcut in the Start\Programs\Startup

folder.)
Even
if you have Works installed, there should only be one of these.


I used the Works 2000(not the suite, but has processor, spreadsheet, and
database) disk that came with the computer in attempting to reinstall
missing files, and finally in uninstalling whole program. Program had

two
listings in Start/Programs listing before I returned to Internet. As i

said
'my' Works is a resource hog, and didn't work well with other programs.

The
other reasons for uninstalling it a The ruler option was grayed out;

The
find option would only find one word out of a document that had many of

the
same word; And the documents that I had saved as Word files later proved

to
be inaccessible. I had planned to buy Word.


So, are you saying that you've totally uninstalled Works? If so, that
directly impacts what I may suggest with regards to the Startup commands
that remain.

xTaskbar Display Controls Registry (Per-User Run) RunDLL
deskcp16.dll,QUICKRES_RUNDLLENTRY

This one is to put an icon in the System Tray (next to the clock)

where
you
can quickly change the screen resolution. This command should be

deleted
if
you aren't in the habit of frequently changing display resolution.

Again,
wait until the analysis is complete before actually doing anything.

We'll
l ay out a series of procedures for you to follow when the time comes.


Does this also control other icons, such as the Compact Mouse that I
installed. It is an icon that is a mouse with animated eyes that follow

or
locates the pointer for you. It was fun in the beginning but annoying
later. The Mouse has no ball under the bottom, but a red light that cuts
down on space needed and the cleaning of that infernal rubber ball. But,

as
is my fate it is a resource hog. Probably the humonguos help file. And
possibly adware?


No, this app deals with video resolution and nothing else. That icon

you're
talking about is probably provided by another program that is listed

below,
"Gnetmous "

xMicrosoft Works Update Detection Registry (Per-User Run)

\WkDetect.exe

More Works.

And, no updates for version after 4.5? Mine is 5.0 Though I've seen

for
files for version6 on my computer.


I have no idea what updates are available. But it's not uncommon to see
files
that claim a later version. They're from updates. It doesn't mean you have
fully upgraded to version 6, only that you've updated certain components

to
version 6 levels. It's quite common in MS applications and operating
systems.

MCUpdateExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\MCUPDATE.EXE
MCAgentExe Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\AGENT\mcagent.exe
VsecomrEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSEcomR.EXE
VsStatEXE Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\Network

Associates\McAfee VirusScan\VSSTAT.EXE /SHOWWARNING

All four of the above are from McAfee Antivirus. Is it up to date? Can

you
f igure out what version it is for us? You can usually find that info

in
HelpAbout. Regardless, McAfee AV may be bogging down and even messing

up
your system. There are other, better solutions out there, in my

opinion,
free ones like AVG and AVAST, or paid ones like ETrust. I use ETrust.

You
can get the first year free by going he
http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft


But remember, don't do anything yet. If you decide to change antivirus
applications, the first
trick may be to get McAfee to uninstall properly.
Computer came with McAfee VirusScan version 4 installed, in 2000. Files

are
still in system I guess. Is one of those things I didn't want

reinstalled.
Had bought version 5 or an update in 2000-01(on internet) I was a Net

virgin
back then, but found out 4 did not recognize 5's modules, or something

like
that. Lost: $29. Also purchased WinZip8.0(now have 9c update,

hopefully)
Question?: Why didn't I lose Winzip when I recovered my hard drive with

the
Recovery Disc--- I lost all the Windows updates. Did that in 2001, and

got
off Internet after 8 months of hell. Am back April 13, 2005! With a
vengeance(I whispered that because the gremlins are still in there).


When you "overinstall" Windows 98, you only overwrite system files (some

of
which *may* affect applications installations so that you have to

reinstall,
but not usually.)

TaskMonitor Registry (Machine Run) C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe


This is the one that creates all those logs in the APPLOG folder. If you
decide you
don't need Defrag to Optimize your files, then this one can be gotten

rid
of.

SystemTray Registry (Machine Run) SysTray.Exe


The Tray is that box at the far right of the TaskBar, where the clock
resides. A few of the icons that get placed there, like the Volume

Control,
for example, need for SysTray to load. You should leave it enabled.
Does this included the Mouse icon too!?


No, it does not include the mouse icon. Like I said, what's called the
"System Tray" is that whole area with small icons next to the clock. But

the
SYSTRAY application is only involved in a couple, Volume Control usually
being the only one most users know about.

VSOCheckTask Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\MCMNHDLR.EXE" /checktask
VirusScan Online Registry (Machine Run)

"C:\PROGRA~1\MCAFEE.COM\VSO\mcvsshld.exe"

More McAfee.

Gnetmous Registry (Machine Run) C:\Program Files\COMPAQ\Scroll

Mouse\gnetmous.exe

Supports your mouse and may or may not be necessary, depending on

whether
you need extra customizations for the mouse beyond the basics
(reprogrammable buttons, for instance.) Normally, I do not install such
software, but sometimes it's necessary. The only way to know is to run

for
a
while with it disabled and see if you notice any difference.
The Mouse again!

Motive SmartBridge Registry (Machine Run)

C:\PROGRA~1\VERIZO~1\SMARTB~1\MotiveSB.exe

Looks like a mechanism used by your ISP (Verizon, right?) that assists

with
their internet support. Not usually necessary. I'd delete this command,

but
I think perhaps you should leave it -- unless we discover that it truly

is
causing problems. Note that deleting a Startup command isn't the same

thing
as Uninstalling the program. Deleting the command just stops it from

loading
at Startup and from appearing as a disabled item in MSCONFIG (ideally,
during normal running, MSCONFIG should be set to Normal Startup, with
nothing disabled.)
Verizon yes.

CriticalUpdate Registry (Machine Run)

c:\windows\SYSTEM\wucrtupd.exe -startup

Leave this one unless we discover that it's causing problems. It's a
Scheduled Tasks that checks every so often to see if you're connected to

the
internet, and if you are, it checks for new Critical Updates from

Windows
Updates. Now, what's weird about this one is that you don't have any

Startup
command for Task Scheduler. If Critical Updates Notification is to work,
Task Scheduler needs to be running.
Have recurring Task Scheduler notice box that reads "Some tasks did not
execute at their scheduled times because the Task Scheduler Service was

not
running. You can view the list of missed tasks, and attempt to run them
again, from within the Scheduled Tasks folder." I shut down the computer
completely so that I might copy the message, but the message box did not
reappear on bootup. Strange! I have icons in the System Tray for

McAffee
and the Task Scheduler. When the message box first started appearing

figured
it was because I pause TS and turn off the others when I defrag and

install
whatever. On checking and running the TS I found it wasn't so. The box

is
still popping up after nearly a month. I notice that it has only one

exit
choice, OK option. The X is grayed out. Also, a couple of months ago

the
McAfee icon indicated the program was off by turning black 'after'

bootup.
I had to keep remembering to turn it on before going on line. ( I forgot

a
couple of times). I check the schedules via the System Tray icon. The
scheduled times seem to be occurring(when using the computer the pointer
also blinks or freezes).The Tray icon seems to indicate that update
downloads are happening. Later, because the box appeared again after

bootup,
I shut down on restart, the message still appeared.


OK, well let's leave the TS issue until later, after you've cleaned up

your
system. It may very well be one of those apps that (I hope) you're going

to
uninstall -- like McAfee.

OK, now to the list of procedures. But I'm going to post those to an
entirely new thread (I'll email you when I do and tell you what the

Subject
line is.) I've got a lot of it done, but I want to review it all, first.
However, have you worked your way through the articles I gave you? You
really want to get those ones down, and make sure you're malware-free

before
we bother to continue. (That means you want to do all those things I
suggest, and after you've run all the other anti-spyware and anti-virus
scans, you need to finish up by posting a HijackThis log to the Aumha.net
forums for analysis, specifically to this one. Aumha.org and Aumha.net are
owned and run my MS-MVP Jim Eshelman, and staffed by lots of very good
people, including many MVPs.

--
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Old October 16th 05, 04:35 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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Not sure I should answer that one!

Don't worry, I send *lots* of people to that article, eg. I wrote both of
those so I could stop having to write various versions of the same things
twenty times a day. While the suggestions in the Security article are still
current, other good apps have made it to "market" that I haven't included.
Jim's pages cover those real well.

--
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