IE 6 in Windows 98 Second Edition

O I was on XP
Here Win 98

Identify as Opera
Opera/9.80 (Windows 98; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.53

Identify as Internet Explorer
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows 98; en) Opera 10.53

Mask as Internet Explorer
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows 98; en)




"Hot-text" wrote in message
...
And the Opera Browser Identification when Mask as Internet Explorer in
win98 Is::::

Mozilla/4.0(compatible; MSIE 8.0, Windows NT 5.1, en) Opera 10.53

Cool my win98 look like a XP sp3 with a IE 8


"glee" wrote in message
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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
...
On May 24, 5:30 am, Dan wrote:
I was wondering what the consensus of this group was of adding the
Windows
2000 updates to IE 6 sp1 in Windows 98 SE. Please don't let this thread
become another back and forth between 98 Guy and MEB but I know it
probably
will so I post it reluctantly. However, I am interested in real world
results of whether it causes IE 6 sp1 to become unstable and/or whether
it
causes new vulnerabilities into IE 6 sp1. I added a few updates to IE 6
sp1
from Windows 2000 just to see what would happen but discontinued the
project
due to a perceived lack of interest from the community. It did not seem
to
cause any harm but I have no way of knowing for sure of whether this
ended up
being a good thing or a bad thing and since when in 98SE I generally
use
another browser to surf I was wondering what the consensus was in this
group.
LOL!!, yes perhaps I am the only one left willing to live on the danger
zone
with 98SE but don't worry I have the appropriate safeguards in place on
my 9x
side of the system.

After many, many frustrating attempts to get IE6 to work with those
'new' websites - hang all the time; I completely abandoned in favor of
Opera 9.64 [newer versions available] since then no problems, and I'm
running Win98SE.

Several times Opera itself has raised attack flags and stopped
malware, before any firewall saw the attack. As a result, I abandoned
trying to use Firefox versions and now use Opera. Sadly, I still get
'government' sites that complain I don't have IE 5, or later?!
Nothing like govt helping an individual company, eh? For those sites,
I roll out antique IE6 and use once.


Try editing the Site Preferences in Opera just for that site, and set it
to Mask as Internet Explorer.

Go to the problem page, right-click in a blank spot on the page, and
click Edit Site Preferences on the context menu.
Click the Network tab, and in the Browser Identification dropdown, select
Mask as Internet Explorer, and click OK.

That's looking on my Opera 10.5x, but your version should be similar.

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
...

I was wondering what the consensus of this group was of adding the Windows
2000 updates to IE 6 sp1 in Windows 98 SE. Please don't let this thread
become another back and forth between 98 Guy and MEB but I know it
probably
will so I post it reluctantly. However, I am interested in real world
results of whether it causes IE 6 sp1 to become unstable and/or whether it
causes new vulnerabilities into IE 6 sp1.

Where stability is a concern, consider instead Mozilla
Firefox, now up to version 3.6 but versions 2.* appear
to work flawlessly under Win98SE.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


.


Thanks for all the replies.

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
...

I was wondering what the consensus of this group was of adding the Windows
2000 updates to IE 6 sp1 in Windows 98 SE. Please don't let this thread
become another back and forth between 98 Guy and MEB but I know it
probably
will so I post it reluctantly. However, I am interested in real world
results of whether it causes IE 6 sp1 to become unstable and/or whether it
causes new vulnerabilities into IE 6 sp1.

Where stability is a concern, consider instead Mozilla
Firefox, now up to version 3.6 but versions 2.* appear
to work flawlessly under Win98SE.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)


.


Thanks for all the replies.

Robert Macy wrote in

oups.com:

Several times Opera itself has raised attack flags and
stopped malware, before any firewall saw the attack.

Not /exactly/. Opera does not recognize "malware" - no browser
does, to my knowledge.

Opera DOES send the URL you type in to its database of "possibly
dangerous sites" which is why it warns you occasionally when you
try to go where they think you should not. This function is
easily disabled in the basic options - without going into the
horrorshow of more advanced setup pages (opera:config, etc).

(I believe this is why there were "privacy concerns" about Opera
tracking user's movements, but they do not /track/, they simply
process each URL received, and it can be disabled, as I said.)

As a
result, I abandoned trying to use Firefox versions and now
use Opera. Sadly, I still get 'government' sites that
complain I don't have IE 5, or later?! Nothing like govt
helping an individual company, eh?

MS and the US gov't have a long-standing and VERY close
relationship.

For those sites, I roll
out antique IE6 and use once.

You can make Opera pretend to be IE or Firefox, and even put
that drop-down box on the toolbar for easy access. The masking
works /most/ of the time. I wouldn't use IE for ANYTHING for ANY
reason.


--
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is
time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

Robert Macy wrote in

oups.com:

Several times Opera itself has raised attack flags and
stopped malware, before any firewall saw the attack.

Not /exactly/. Opera does not recognize "malware" - no browser
does, to my knowledge.

Opera DOES send the URL you type in to its database of "possibly
dangerous sites" which is why it warns you occasionally when you
try to go where they think you should not. This function is
easily disabled in the basic options - without going into the
horrorshow of more advanced setup pages (opera:config, etc).

(I believe this is why there were "privacy concerns" about Opera
tracking user's movements, but they do not /track/, they simply
process each URL received, and it can be disabled, as I said.)

As a
result, I abandoned trying to use Firefox versions and now
use Opera. Sadly, I still get 'government' sites that
complain I don't have IE 5, or later?! Nothing like govt
helping an individual company, eh?

MS and the US gov't have a long-standing and VERY close
relationship.

For those sites, I roll
out antique IE6 and use once.

You can make Opera pretend to be IE or Firefox, and even put
that drop-down box on the toolbar for easy access. The masking
works /most/ of the time. I wouldn't use IE for ANYTHING for ANY
reason.


--
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is
time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

Its go to see you at the Opera News Thanatoid


"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
Robert Macy wrote in

oups.com:

Several times Opera itself has raised attack flags and
stopped malware, before any firewall saw the attack.

Not /exactly/. Opera does not recognize "malware" - no browser
does, to my knowledge.

Opera DOES send the URL you type in to its database of "possibly
dangerous sites" which is why it warns you occasionally when you
try to go where they think you should not. This function is
easily disabled in the basic options - without going into the
horrorshow of more advanced setup pages (opera:config, etc).

(I believe this is why there were "privacy concerns" about Opera
tracking user's movements, but they do not /track/, they simply
process each URL received, and it can be disabled, as I said.)

As a
result, I abandoned trying to use Firefox versions and now
use Opera. Sadly, I still get 'government' sites that
complain I don't have IE 5, or later?! Nothing like govt
helping an individual company, eh?

MS and the US gov't have a long-standing and VERY close
relationship.

For those sites, I roll
out antique IE6 and use once.

You can make Opera pretend to be IE or Firefox, and even put
that drop-down box on the toolbar for easy access. The masking
works /most/ of the time. I wouldn't use IE for ANYTHING for ANY
reason.


--
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is
time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

Its go to see you at the Opera News Thanatoid


"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
Robert Macy wrote in

oups.com:

Several times Opera itself has raised attack flags and
stopped malware, before any firewall saw the attack.

Not /exactly/. Opera does not recognize "malware" - no browser
does, to my knowledge.

Opera DOES send the URL you type in to its database of "possibly
dangerous sites" which is why it warns you occasionally when you
try to go where they think you should not. This function is
easily disabled in the basic options - without going into the
horrorshow of more advanced setup pages (opera:config, etc).

(I believe this is why there were "privacy concerns" about Opera
tracking user's movements, but they do not /track/, they simply
process each URL received, and it can be disabled, as I said.)

As a
result, I abandoned trying to use Firefox versions and now
use Opera. Sadly, I still get 'government' sites that
complain I don't have IE 5, or later?! Nothing like govt
helping an individual company, eh?

MS and the US gov't have a long-standing and VERY close
relationship.

For those sites, I roll
out antique IE6 and use once.

You can make Opera pretend to be IE or Firefox, and even put
that drop-down box on the toolbar for easy access. The masking
works /most/ of the time. I wouldn't use IE for ANYTHING for ANY
reason.


--
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is
time to pause and reflect."
- Mark Twain

Where stability is a concern, consider instead Mozilla
Firefox, now up to version 3.6 but versions 2.* appear
to work flawlessly under Win98SE.



I second that. (I even get to keep my third-party d/load manager using
the older version.)

Where stability is a concern, consider instead Mozilla
Firefox, now up to version 3.6 but versions 2.* appear
to work flawlessly under Win98SE.



I second that. (I even get to keep my third-party d/load manager using
the older version.)

Go to the problem page, right-click in a blank spot on the page, and
click Edit Site Preferences on the context menu.
Click the Network tab, and in the Browser Identification dropdown,
select Mask as Internet Explorer, and click OK.

That's looking on my Opera 10.5x, but your version should be similar.



I right-clicked in a blank area within my firefox, but found no Edit
Site Preferences at all,, what does a f/f user need to do?

Ed