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  #1  
Old September 27th 05, 01:53 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
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Default how to find correct video driver?

using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384 ram,
13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.

have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP

i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but don't
recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been plagued with
freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.

i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk. i'm
thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an updated
one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to choose.

asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about using the
original one.

thank you, len kiesling


  #2  
Old September 28th 05, 12:09 AM
darkrats
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Have you tried:

http://www.voodoofiles.com



"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384

ram,
13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.

have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP

i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but don't
recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been plagued

with
freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.

i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk. i'm
thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an updated
one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to choose.

asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about using

the
original one.

thank you, len kiesling




  #3  
Old September 28th 05, 12:16 AM
PCR
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Posts: n/a
Default

I'm thinking...

(a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel, Display,
Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things get
better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.

(b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It won't
be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you want to
click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are quicker,
surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first try
reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows

"START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck "VGA
640x480x16", & reboot.

"Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need nothing
higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.

If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.

Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues to
fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...

For the Monitor...
(1) Boot to Safe Mode
(Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.

Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
(a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
(b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).

(4) Boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...

.......Quote..........
The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.

[That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard display
types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane, click
'Next'"... PCR]

This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
rid of whatever was there before.

Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
made your video card.

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
.......End....of quote....

Also...
..........Quote................
To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either the
Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest

Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the manufacturer's
web site and download the correct driver for you operating
system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
.........EOQ....................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384
ram,
| 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
|
| have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
|
| i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but
don't
| recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been
plagued with
| freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
| explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
|
| i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk.
i'm
| thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an
updated
| one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to
choose.
|
| asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about
using the
| original one.
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
|


  #4  
Old September 28th 05, 01:17 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
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Default

thank you! yes, i've searched this site many times & get lost. there are so
many drivers for voodoo3 3000. the one i believe to have is 1.07, version
4.12.01.0666. maybe i have the current one, not realizing. probably need
some guidence within that site. i see original drivers, 224 listed, & 3rd
party 72 listed. i will try another review of those listed & report back.
thank you, len kiesling


"darkrats" wrote in message
...
Have you tried:

http://www.voodoofiles.com



"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384

ram,
13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.

have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP

i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but don't
recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been plagued

with
freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.

i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk. i'm
thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an updated
one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to choose.

asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about using

the
original one.

thank you, len kiesling






  #5  
Old September 28th 05, 01:30 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
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Posts: n/a
Default

thank you for reply. i lowered the hardware accellerator & will see if that
stops or lessens the amount of freeze-up occurrences.

are there any negative aspects of no accelleration? i don't play any
'intense' games. my thing is the original pong.

thank you for the detailed instructions & KB link. i'll post results &
findings.

thank you! len kiesling

"PCR" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking...

(a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel, Display,
Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things get
better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.

(b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It won't
be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you want to
click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are quicker,
surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first try
reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows

"START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck "VGA
640x480x16", & reboot.

"Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need nothing
higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.

If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.

Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues to
fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...

For the Monitor...
(1) Boot to Safe Mode
(Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.

Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
(a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
(b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).

(4) Boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...

......Quote..........
The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.

[That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard display
types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane, click
'Next'"... PCR]

This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
rid of whatever was there before.

Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
made your video card.

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
......End....of quote....

Also...
.........Quote................
To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either the
Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest

Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the manufacturer's
web site and download the correct driver for you operating
system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
........EOQ....................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384
ram,
| 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
|
| have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
|
| i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but
don't
| recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been
plagued with
| freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
| explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
|
| i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk.
i'm
| thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an
updated
| one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to
choose.
|
| asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about
using the
| original one.
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
|




  #6  
Old September 28th 05, 03:10 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
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Posts: n/a
Default

here's a cut from my post of 5-26-05 2:58pm:

thank you for reply. i typed the link manually:
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

& froze. (end of cut)

before turning off accelleration, my machine would freeze when viewing this
page. i gave up after that trying to resolve. i just didn't go to that page
on this machine. i have other machines to use. i'm no longer freezing when
viewing this page! http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone

should i now try & update the driver since "(a)" worked? & if so, should i
use original disk, dell resource disk, or the upgraded downloaded one?
(which i believe i'm using now)

thank you, len kiesling



"PCR" wrote in message
...
I'm thinking...

(a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel, Display,
Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things get
better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.

(b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It won't
be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you want to
click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are quicker,
surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first try
reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows

"START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck "VGA
640x480x16", & reboot.

"Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need nothing
higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource considerations.

If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to click
the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.

Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues to
fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...

For the Monitor...
(1) Boot to Safe Mode
(Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
(2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
(3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.

Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
(a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
(b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
(c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
(d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
Examine the two panes to see what is currently installed.
That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step (4).

(4) Boot to Normal Mode.

Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...

......Quote..........
The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button; and
click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how to
deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.

[That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard display
types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane, click
'Next'"... PCR]

This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic VGA
adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA because
it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to get
rid of whatever was there before.

Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that matches
your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the correct
video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company that
made your video card.

Bill Starbuck (MVP)
......End....of quote....

Also...
.........Quote................
To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either the
Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest

Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the manufacturer's
web site and download the correct driver for you operating
system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
........EOQ....................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz, 384
ram,
| 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
|
| have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
|
| i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but
don't
| recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been
plagued with
| freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often. ie,
| explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
|
| i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have disk.
i'm
| thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an
updated
| one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to
choose.
|
| asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about
using the
| original one.
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
|




  #7  
Old September 28th 05, 04:45 AM
PCR
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You are welcome. Well, really, if you notice no ill effect from it, then
there is no drawback to a lower hardware acceleration. Supposedly,
things are slower, but things may still be quicker than your eye can
see. And certainly it's quicker than when hardware acceleration
malfunctions. It could be you may now sneak that slider slowly back up &
survive. Then, you are done.

Otherwise, I don't know. The rest is your decision. That's quite a
rigmarole in my post. If you do it, first just try & un/re-install your
current drivers per those instructions.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| here's a cut from my post of 5-26-05 2:58pm:
|
| thank you for reply. i typed the link manually:
|
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
|
| & froze. (end of cut)
|
| before turning off accelleration, my machine would freeze when viewing
this
| page. i gave up after that trying to resolve. i just didn't go to that
page
| on this machine. i have other machines to use. i'm no longer freezing
when
| viewing this page! http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
|
| should i now try & update the driver since "(a)" worked? & if so,
should i
| use original disk, dell resource disk, or the upgraded downloaded one?
| (which i believe i'm using now)
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I'm thinking...
|
| (a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel, Display,
| Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things get
| better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.
|
| (b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It
won't
| be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you want
to
| click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are
quicker,
| surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first try
| reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
| Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
|
| "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck
"VGA
| 640x480x16", & reboot.
|
| "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
| Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need
nothing
| higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
considerations.
|
| If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to
click
| the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
|
| Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues
to
| fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...
|
| For the Monitor...
| (1) Boot to Safe Mode
| (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
| (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
| (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|
| Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
| similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
| (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
| (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
| (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
| (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
| Examine the two panes to see what is currently
installed.
| That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step
(4).
|
| (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|
| Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
| necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
|
| ......Quote..........
| The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
| installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
| drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button;
and
| click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how
to
| deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
| currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
| Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
|
| [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
| 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
display
| types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
click
| 'Next'"... PCR]
|
| This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic
VGA
| adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
because
| it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to
get
| rid of whatever was there before.
|
| Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
matches
| your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
| using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
| see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
correct
| video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
| adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
that
| made your video card.
|
| Bill Starbuck (MVP)
| ......End....of quote....
|
| Also...
| .........Quote................
| To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either
the
| Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
| http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest
|
| Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the
manufacturer's
| web site and download the correct driver for you operating
| system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| ........EOQ....................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Leonard F Kiesling" wrote
in
| message ...
| | using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz,
384
| ram,
| | 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
| |
| | have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
| |
| | i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but
| don't
| | recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been
| plagued with
| | freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often.
ie,
| | explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
| |
| | i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have
disk.
| i'm
| | thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an
| updated
| | one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to
| choose.
| |
| | asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about
| using the
| | original one.
| |
| | thank you, len kiesling
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #8  
Old September 29th 05, 12:07 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

thanks for reply. i have stepped up acceleration to 1 notch below full, & so
far i still can view the web page that previously froze.

i tried uninstalling the present driver by removing the current adapter as
per instructions. i installed the new driver from c:\windows\options\cabs,
because when i put in dell resource disk, it advised it didn't recognize the
hardware. (have no idea what's going on there).

after, display stayed at the 640 x 480 setting. could not adjust it. i used
scanreg /restore to go back. any ideas on how to resolve? otherwise i will
try again in a few days, after i have a few new scanreg restores to fall
back on.

thank you, len kiesling

thank you,
"PCR" wrote in message
...
You are welcome. Well, really, if you notice no ill effect from it, then
there is no drawback to a lower hardware acceleration. Supposedly,
things are slower, but things may still be quicker than your eye can
see. And certainly it's quicker than when hardware acceleration
malfunctions. It could be you may now sneak that slider slowly back up &
survive. Then, you are done.

Otherwise, I don't know. The rest is your decision. That's quite a
rigmarole in my post. If you do it, first just try & un/re-install your
current drivers per those instructions.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| here's a cut from my post of 5-26-05 2:58pm:
|
| thank you for reply. i typed the link manually:
|
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
|
| & froze. (end of cut)
|
| before turning off accelleration, my machine would freeze when viewing
this
| page. i gave up after that trying to resolve. i just didn't go to that
page
| on this machine. i have other machines to use. i'm no longer freezing
when
| viewing this page! http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
|
| should i now try & update the driver since "(a)" worked? & if so,
should i
| use original disk, dell resource disk, or the upgraded downloaded one?
| (which i believe i'm using now)
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I'm thinking...
|
| (a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel, Display,
| Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things get
| better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.
|
| (b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It
won't
| be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you want
to
| click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are
quicker,
| surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first try
| reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
| Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
|
| "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then uncheck
"VGA
| 640x480x16", & reboot.
|
| "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from the
| Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need
nothing
| higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
considerations.
|
| If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to
click
| the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
|
| Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it continues
to
| fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display Adapter...
|
| For the Monitor...
| (1) Boot to Safe Mode
| (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
| (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
| (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
|
| Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is installed
| similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
| (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
| (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
| (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
| (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
| Examine the two panes to see what is currently
installed.
| That is likely what you wish to end up with, after step
(4).
|
| (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
|
| Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
| necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
|
| ......Quote..........
| The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
| installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from the
| drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced" button;
and
| click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows how
to
| deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that is
| currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard Display
| Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
|
| [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next, bolt
| 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
display
| types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
click
| 'Next'"... PCR]
|
| This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a generic
VGA
| adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
because
| it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is to
get
| rid of whatever was there before.
|
| Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
matches
| your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you are
| using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer to
| see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
correct
| video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have an
| adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
that
| made your video card.
|
| Bill Starbuck (MVP)
| ......End....of quote....
|
| Also...
| .........Quote................
| To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run either
the
| Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
| http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest
|
| Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the
manufacturer's
| web site and download the correct driver for you operating
| system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| ........EOQ....................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Leonard F Kiesling" wrote
in
| message ...
| | using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII, 450mhz,
384
| ram,
| | 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
| |
| | have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
| |
| | i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before, but
| don't
| | recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive been
| plagued with
| | freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more often.
ie,
| | explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
| |
| | i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have
disk.
| i'm
| | thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate an
| updated
| | one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one to
| choose.
| |
| | asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info about
| using the
| | original one.
| |
| | thank you, len kiesling
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




  #9  
Old September 29th 05, 12:41 AM
PCR
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

| i installed the new driver from c:\windows\options\cabs,

Did you follow the yellow brick road Starbuck wrote up, starting in
Desktop Properties? Did you..?.. "Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed." What was it? Couldn't you go back into that
screen, & reinstall it from there?

I suppose there is a chance that may ask for the .cab's, if they aren't
on the hard drive. But mine are on the hard drive. Also, I think my own
Display Adapter has a folder in which it's drivers are found, & those
were used-- not the Windows Installation .cab's at all, when I did it, I
think.

If the /Restore got you back to normal, I suppose all is well. Just
continue to nudge that slider up, if you really must. Otherwise, it's in
my head to give that Starbuck a good flogging next I ever see him!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| thanks for reply. i have stepped up acceleration to 1 notch below
full, & so
| far i still can view the web page that previously froze.
|
| i tried uninstalling the present driver by removing the current
adapter as
| per instructions. i installed the new driver from
c:\windows\options\cabs,
| because when i put in dell resource disk, it advised it didn't
recognize the
| hardware. (have no idea what's going on there).
|
| after, display stayed at the 640 x 480 setting. could not adjust it. i
used
| scanreg /restore to go back. any ideas on how to resolve? otherwise i
will
| try again in a few days, after i have a few new scanreg restores to
fall
| back on.
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
| thank you,
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| You are welcome. Well, really, if you notice no ill effect from it,
then
| there is no drawback to a lower hardware acceleration. Supposedly,
| things are slower, but things may still be quicker than your eye can
| see. And certainly it's quicker than when hardware acceleration
| malfunctions. It could be you may now sneak that slider slowly back
up &
| survive. Then, you are done.
|
| Otherwise, I don't know. The rest is your decision. That's quite a
| rigmarole in my post. If you do it, first just try & un/re-install
your
| current drivers per those instructions.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Leonard F Kiesling" wrote
in
| message ...
| | here's a cut from my post of 5-26-05 2:58pm:
| |
| | thank you for reply. i typed the link manually:
| |
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
| |
| | & froze. (end of cut)
| |
| | before turning off accelleration, my machine would freeze when
viewing
| this
| | page. i gave up after that trying to resolve. i just didn't go to
that
| page
| | on this machine. i have other machines to use. i'm no longer
freezing
| when
| | viewing this page!
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
| |
| | should i now try & update the driver since "(a)" worked? & if so,
| should i
| | use original disk, dell resource disk, or the upgraded downloaded
one?
| | (which i believe i'm using now)
| |
| | thank you, len kiesling
| |
| |
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | I'm thinking...
| |
| | (a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel,
Display,
| | Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things
get
| | better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.
| |
| | (b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It
| won't
| | be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you
want
| to
| | click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are
| quicker,
| | surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first
try
| | reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.
| |
| | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
| | Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
| |
| | "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then
uncheck
| "VGA
| | 640x480x16", & reboot.
| |
| | "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
the
| | Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need
| nothing
| | higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
| considerations.
| |
| | If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to
| click
| | the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| |
| | Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
continues
| to
| | fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display
Adapter...
| |
| | For the Monitor...
| | (1) Boot to Safe Mode
| | (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
| | (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
| | (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
| |
| | Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
installed
| | similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
| | (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
| | (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
| | (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
| | (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
| | Examine the two panes to see what is currently
| installed.
| | That is likely what you wish to end up with, after
step
| (4).
| |
| | (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
| |
| | Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
| | necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
| |
| | ......Quote..........
| | The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
| | installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
the
| | drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
button;
| and
| | click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
how
| to
| | deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that
is
| | currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
Display
| | Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
| |
| | [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
bolt
| | 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
| display
| | types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
| click
| | 'Next'"... PCR]
| |
| | This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
generic
| VGA
| | adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
| because
| | it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
to
| get
| | rid of whatever was there before.
| |
| | Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
| matches
| | your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you
are
| | using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
to
| | see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
| correct
| | video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
an
| | adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
| that
| | made your video card.
| |
| | Bill Starbuck (MVP)
| | ......End....of quote....
| |
| | Also...
| | .........Quote................
| | To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run
either
| the
| | Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
| | http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest
| |
| | Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the
| manufacturer's
| | web site and download the correct driver for you operating
| | system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
| | --
| | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| | ........EOQ....................
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "Leonard F Kiesling"
wrote
| in
| | message ...
| | | using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII,
450mhz,
| 384
| | ram,
| | | 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
| | |
| | | have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
| | |
| | | i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before,
but
| | don't
| | | recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive
been
| | plagued with
| | | freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more
often.
| ie,
| | | explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
| | |
| | | i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have
| disk.
| | i'm
| | | thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate
an
| | updated
| | | one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one
to
| | choose.
| | |
| | | asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info
about
| | using the
| | | original one.
| | |
| | | thank you, len kiesling
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #10  
Old September 29th 05, 03:01 AM
Leonard F Kiesling
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

thanks, forgive me, i'm a bit lost. please direct me to starbuck's write up,
or is that the kb article 127139?
i made note of the adapter. not sure of this: "Couldn't you go back into
that
screen, & reinstall it from there?"


don't flog starbuck!

here's my thinking: could i remove current adapter as per previous
directions, then remove the display adapter in system properties. reboot, &
install the drivers from disk then?
thank you, len kiesling

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| i installed the new driver from c:\windows\options\cabs,

Did you follow the yellow brick road Starbuck wrote up, starting in
Desktop Properties? Did you..?.. "Make note of the adapter that is
currently installed." What was it? Couldn't you go back into that
screen, & reinstall it from there?

I suppose there is a chance that may ask for the .cab's, if they aren't
on the hard drive. But mine are on the hard drive. Also, I think my own
Display Adapter has a folder in which it's drivers are found, & those
were used-- not the Windows Installation .cab's at all, when I did it, I
think.

If the /Restore got you back to normal, I suppose all is well. Just
continue to nudge that slider up, if you really must. Otherwise, it's in
my head to give that Starbuck a good flogging next I ever see him!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Leonard F Kiesling" wrote in
message ...
| thanks for reply. i have stepped up acceleration to 1 notch below
full, & so
| far i still can view the web page that previously froze.
|
| i tried uninstalling the present driver by removing the current
adapter as
| per instructions. i installed the new driver from
c:\windows\options\cabs,
| because when i put in dell resource disk, it advised it didn't
recognize the
| hardware. (have no idea what's going on there).
|
| after, display stayed at the 640 x 480 setting. could not adjust it. i
used
| scanreg /restore to go back. any ideas on how to resolve? otherwise i
will
| try again in a few days, after i have a few new scanreg restores to
fall
| back on.
|
| thank you, len kiesling
|
| thank you,
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| You are welcome. Well, really, if you notice no ill effect from it,
then
| there is no drawback to a lower hardware acceleration. Supposedly,
| things are slower, but things may still be quicker than your eye can
| see. And certainly it's quicker than when hardware acceleration
| malfunctions. It could be you may now sneak that slider slowly back
up &
| survive. Then, you are done.
|
| Otherwise, I don't know. The rest is your decision. That's quite a
| rigmarole in my post. If you do it, first just try & un/re-install
your
| current drivers per those instructions.
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Leonard F Kiesling" wrote
in
| message ...
| | here's a cut from my post of 5-26-05 2:58pm:
| |
| | thank you for reply. i typed the link manually:
| |
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
| |
| | & froze. (end of cut)
| |
| | before turning off accelleration, my machine would freeze when
viewing
| this
| | page. i gave up after that trying to resolve. i just didn't go to
that
| page
| | on this machine. i have other machines to use. i'm no longer
freezing
| when
| | viewing this page!
http://www.insideoe.com/problems/bugs.htm#mailgone
| |
| | should i now try & update the driver since "(a)" worked? & if so,
| should i
| | use original disk, dell resource disk, or the upgraded downloaded
one?
| | (which i believe i'm using now)
| |
| | thank you, len kiesling
| |
| |
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | I'm thinking...
| |
| | (a) Turn off hardware acceleration at... "Control Panel,
Display,
| | Settings tab, Advanced button, Performance button". If things
get
| | better, you could be right to suspect the Video Drivers.
| |
| | (b) Switch to the Standard Display Adapter per the following. It
| won't
| | be pretty, & I hope you will be able to reach all buttons you
want
| to
| | click, that they won't be off the screen. BUT, if things are
| quicker,
| | surely it is the Display Adapter at fault. In that case, first
try
| | reinstalling the one you have now, & see whether it improves.
| |
| | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=127139
| | Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
| |
| | "START, Run, MSConfig, Advanced button". If checked, then
uncheck
| "VGA
| | 640x480x16", & reboot.
| |
| | "Control Panel, Display, Settings tab". Select as you wish from
the
| | Colors dropdown menu & the Size slider. Really, you should need
| nothing
| | higher than "High Color (16 bit)", for speed/resource
| considerations.
| |
| | If you move the Screen Area slider to 1024x768 there, be sure to
| click
| | the Advanced button, & select Large fonts.
| |
| | Try to get your colors/size at least twice that way. If it
continues
| to
| | fail, you may need to reinstall your Monitor or Display
Adapter...
| |
| | For the Monitor...
| | (1) Boot to Safe Mode
| | (Hold F5 as you boot or CTRL for the Startup Menu)
| | (2) "START, Settings, Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab"
| | (3) Open the Monitors branch, & Remove all entries.
| |
| | Perhaps, FIRST, even in Normal Mode, note what is
installed
| | similar to below for the Adapter. That is...
| | (a) D-Clk the monitor there for Properties, Driver tab.
| | (b) Click the Update Driver button, then "Next".
| | (c) Bolt "Display a list...", & click "Next".
| | (d) Bolt "Show all hardware".
| | Examine the two panes to see what is currently
| installed.
| | That is likely what you wish to end up with, after
step
| (4).
| |
| | (4) Boot to Normal Mode.
| |
| | Hopefully, it will be rediscovered & installed. Then, if still
| | necessary, here is the rigmarole of the Display Adapter...
| |
| | ......Quote..........
| | The first thing to do is to remove the video adapter you have
| | installed. Right-click on the desktop; choose "Properties" from
the
| | drop-down menu; select "Settings;" click on the "Advanced"
button;
| and
| | click on "Adapter". An adapter is a program that tells Windows
how
| to
| | deal with a specific video card. Make note of the adapter that
is
| | currently installed. Then, change the adapter to "Standard
Display
| | Adapter (VGA)" and restart the system.
| |
| | [That is: Click "Change, Next, bolt 'Display a List...', Next,
bolt
| | 'Show all hardware', scroll left pane to top, select '(Standard
| display
| | types)', select 'Standard Display Adapter (VGA)' in right pane,
| click
| | 'Next'"... PCR]
| |
| | This will remove the current adapter and replace it with a
generic
| VGA
| | adapter that works with all video cards. You will not like VGA
| because
| | it supports only 16 colors, but the purpose of installing it is
to
| get
| | rid of whatever was there before.
| |
| | Next, return to the adapter screen and install an adapter that
| matches
| | your video card. This may or may not be the adapter that you
are
| | using now. Examine the materials you received with your computer
to
| | see if they include a CD-ROM or floppy disk that contains the
| correct
| | video adapter. Or go to the Gateway website and see if they have
an
| | adapter for you to download. Or check the website of the company
| that
| | made your video card.
| |
| | Bill Starbuck (MVP)
| | ......End....of quote....
| |
| | Also...
| | .........Quote................
| | To identify your video adapter correctly, download and run
either
| the
| | Everest or Aida32 utility, available he
| | http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.php#everest
| |
| | Once you have identified the display adapter, go to the
| manufacturer's
| | web site and download the correct driver for you operating
| | system....(such as) Windows 98/98SE.
| | --
| | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| | http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
| | ........EOQ....................
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "Leonard F Kiesling"
wrote
| in
| | message ...
| | | using win 98se, dell xpst-450 desktop, 6 yrs old. pentIII,
450mhz,
| 384
| | ram,
| | | 13 gig drive, I.E. 6.0. norton av 2002.
| | |
| | | have video display: 16mb 3dfx voodoo 3000D-AGP
| | |
| | | i'm trying to update the display driver. i did it once before,
but
| | don't
| | | recall finding so many drivers. i'm doing this because ive
been
| | plagued with
| | | freezes & lock ups for a time now, & they seem to come more
often.
| ie,
| | | explorer windows, email messages, can freeze at random times.
| | |
| | | i went to dell site, & found the original driver. i also have
| disk.
| | i'm
| | | thinking to maybe go back to original driver? or try & locate
an
| | updated
| | | one. i tried searching, but found so many, not sure which one
to
| | choose.
| | |
| | | asking for assistance in locating the proper update, or info
about
| | using the
| | | original one.
| | |
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