Network XP Pro with 98

I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Alifea

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Alifea

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Alifea

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Alifea

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Alifea

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Windows XP Internet Connection Sharing
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

You're welcome. Here are some ways to set things up with wireless
networking:

1. Create an Ad-Hoc wireless network between the three computers,
without the need for a wireless access point or router. Each computer
would require a wireless network adapter. However, Ad-Hoc is hard to
set up, and it can be hard to find a wireless network adapter that
works reliably with Win98.

2. Connect a wireless access point to an Ethernet adapter on Win98 and
use ICS.

3. Connect a wireless router's LAN port (not its WAN/Internet port)
to an Ethernet adapter on Win98, use it as a wireless access point
only (disabling its routing capabilities), and use ICS. To use a
wireless router as an access point only, disable its built-in DHCP
server and assign its LAN interface a static IP address in the same
192.168.0.x subnet that ICS uses.

4. Avoid the need for ICS by getting an Ethernet-equipped dial-up
modem like this one:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

Connect it to the WAN/Internet port of a wireless router. Connect the
three computers to the router using wired or wireless connections.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

You're welcome. Here are some ways to set things up with wireless
networking:

1. Create an Ad-Hoc wireless network between the three computers,
without the need for a wireless access point or router. Each computer
would require a wireless network adapter. However, Ad-Hoc is hard to
set up, and it can be hard to find a wireless network adapter that
works reliably with Win98.

2. Connect a wireless access point to an Ethernet adapter on Win98 and
use ICS.

3. Connect a wireless router's LAN port (not its WAN/Internet port)
to an Ethernet adapter on Win98, use it as a wireless access point
only (disabling its routing capabilities), and use ICS. To use a
wireless router as an access point only, disable its built-in DHCP
server and assign its LAN interface a static IP address in the same
192.168.0.x subnet that ICS uses.

4. Avoid the need for ICS by getting an Ethernet-equipped dial-up
modem like this one:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

Connect it to the WAN/Internet port of a wireless router. Connect the
three computers to the router using wired or wireless connections.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Again, thank you for the info. I will explore all those options and see
which one works best for my friend. I told him he needed to get three
wireless cards and they had to have drivers for Win 98 so it could be used.
We will see how that goes. Might be better as you point out to use a
different option than the Ad Hoc approach. Not sure what you meant by hard
to set up, but I guess I will find that out soon enough. I have set up Ad
Hoc networks with just Win XP when I did not have the Access point working
properly and I have to admit I sort of stumbled into a functioning
arrangement. I figured it was just my inexperience. Perhaps it is more than
that.

Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Alifea

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

You're welcome. Here are some ways to set things up with wireless
networking:

1. Create an Ad-Hoc wireless network between the three computers,
without the need for a wireless access point or router. Each computer
would require a wireless network adapter. However, Ad-Hoc is hard to
set up, and it can be hard to find a wireless network adapter that
works reliably with Win98.

2. Connect a wireless access point to an Ethernet adapter on Win98 and
use ICS.

3. Connect a wireless router's LAN port (not its WAN/Internet port)
to an Ethernet adapter on Win98, use it as a wireless access point
only (disabling its routing capabilities), and use ICS. To use a
wireless router as an access point only, disable its built-in DHCP
server and assign its LAN interface a static IP address in the same
192.168.0.x subnet that ICS uses.

4. Avoid the need for ICS by getting an Ethernet-equipped dial-up
modem like this one:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

Connect it to the WAN/Internet port of a wireless router. Connect the
three computers to the router using wired or wireless connections.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Again, thank you for the info. I will explore all those options and see
which one works best for my friend. I told him he needed to get three
wireless cards and they had to have drivers for Win 98 so it could be used.
We will see how that goes. Might be better as you point out to use a
different option than the Ad Hoc approach. Not sure what you meant by hard
to set up, but I guess I will find that out soon enough. I have set up Ad
Hoc networks with just Win XP when I did not have the Access point working
properly and I have to admit I sort of stumbled into a functioning
arrangement. I figured it was just my inexperience. Perhaps it is more than
that.

Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Alifea

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

In article ,
alifea wrote:
I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

You're welcome. Here are some ways to set things up with wireless
networking:

1. Create an Ad-Hoc wireless network between the three computers,
without the need for a wireless access point or router. Each computer
would require a wireless network adapter. However, Ad-Hoc is hard to
set up, and it can be hard to find a wireless network adapter that
works reliably with Win98.

2. Connect a wireless access point to an Ethernet adapter on Win98 and
use ICS.

3. Connect a wireless router's LAN port (not its WAN/Internet port)
to an Ethernet adapter on Win98, use it as a wireless access point
only (disabling its routing capabilities), and use ICS. To use a
wireless router as an access point only, disable its built-in DHCP
server and assign its LAN interface a static IP address in the same
192.168.0.x subnet that ICS uses.

4. Avoid the need for ICS by getting an Ethernet-equipped dial-up
modem like this one:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

Connect it to the WAN/Internet port of a wireless router. Connect the
three computers to the router using wired or wireless connections.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

The post above is absolutely the best, simplest way to go. Win98 hates
wireless cards! I think it even hates AdHoc networks even more. I have
the exact same setup running now and I ended up throwing out the
wireless card for the Win98 machine. You just can't get the drivers to
work right. Buy the router for the 98 machine and use wireless for the
XP machines as the previous post noted. Just be sure you turn off the
DHCP in the router, the instructions that it comes with will explain
how to do that. The rest is fairly simple from there especially if your
98 machine has a NIC installed and configured already. The nice
advantage of the router is that if you ever get DSL or cable access you
just plug it into the router, re-enable the DHCP and turn off ICS on the
98 machine and your done!


alifea wrote:
Again, thank you for the info. I will explore all those options and see
which one works best for my friend. I told him he needed to get three
wireless cards and they had to have drivers for Win 98 so it could be used.
We will see how that goes. Might be better as you point out to use a
different option than the Ad Hoc approach. Not sure what you meant by hard
to set up, but I guess I will find that out soon enough. I have set up Ad
Hoc networks with just Win XP when I did not have the Access point working
properly and I have to admit I sort of stumbled into a functioning
arrangement. I figured it was just my inexperience. Perhaps it is more than
that.

Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Alifea

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:


In article ,
alifea wrote:

I need to set up a network with XP Pro on two machines with the third having
98. The 98 machine is to have the printer and dial up connection. Internet,
file and printer sharing are desired.

Any suggestions on how to go about establishing the network?

Does the 98 machine have the original version of Windows 98, or does
it have Windows 98 Second Edition (98SE)? Second Edition can share
its Internet connection with other computers, but the original version
can't.

If possible, I strongly recommend using one of the XP Pro machines to
host the dial-up connection, not 98SE. XP's version of Internet
Connection Sharing (ICS) is easier to set up and much more reliable
than the version in 98SE.

To use 98SE as the ICS host and XP Pro as the clients, follow the
steps in these web pages:

ICS Installation [Win98SE]
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...icsinstall.htm

XP ICS - Client Setup Using the Network Setup Wizard
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../clientwiz.htm

To use an XP Pro computer as the ICS host and 98SE and XP Pro as the
clients, follow the steps shown he

Thank you very much for the info.

The network will be for a friend of mine who is buying two new machines for
his twins and has the old machine with the modem and printer, etc on it.
Thus, the Win 98 machine will default as the internet connection point. This
part of planet earth does not have ready access to broadband yet, so dial up
it is.

I presume I will need wireless cards in each, but would an access
point/router be required (or recommended) even though the internet connection
is through the third computer and not the access point/router?

You're welcome. Here are some ways to set things up with wireless
networking:

1. Create an Ad-Hoc wireless network between the three computers,
without the need for a wireless access point or router. Each computer
would require a wireless network adapter. However, Ad-Hoc is hard to
set up, and it can be hard to find a wireless network adapter that
works reliably with Win98.

2. Connect a wireless access point to an Ethernet adapter on Win98 and
use ICS.

3. Connect a wireless router's LAN port (not its WAN/Internet port)
to an Ethernet adapter on Win98, use it as a wireless access point
only (disabling its routing capabilities), and use ICS. To use a
wireless router as an access point only, disable its built-in DHCP
server and assign its LAN interface a static IP address in the same
192.168.0.x subnet that ICS uses.

4. Avoid the need for ICS by getting an Ethernet-equipped dial-up
modem like this one:

http://www.actiontec.com/products/br...odem/index.php

Connect it to the WAN/Internet port of a wireless router. Connect the
three computers to the router using wired or wireless connections.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm