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Old November 27th 09, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Buffalo wrote:
PCR wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Once again, excellent advice PCR!


:-). That advice was straight from the horse's mouth, except the part
where I asked him to strick with Richards -- but I don't know if
Richards still stricks!


I also wonder is he still does strick or not?
Happy Thanksgiving.


Happy Thanksgiving, if not too late or soon -- or even so.

Buffalo


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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Old November 27th 09, 06:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Buffalo wrote:
PCR wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Once again, excellent advice PCR!


:-). That advice was straight from the horse's mouth, except the part
where I asked him to strick with Richards -- but I don't know if
Richards still stricks!


I also wonder is he still does strick or not?
Happy Thanksgiving.


Happy Thanksgiving, if not too late or soon -- or even so.

Buffalo


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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Old November 29th 09, 01:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Buffalo wrote:
PCR wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Once again, excellent advice PCR!


:-). That advice was straight from the horse's mouth, except the part
where I asked him to strick with Richards -- but I don't know if
Richards still stricks!


I also wonder is he still does strick or not?


UPDATE: I've seen Richards still stricking in a nearby thread -- but it
wasn't as pretty a sight as it used to be! OK, bye.

Happy Thanksgiving.
Buffalo


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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Old November 29th 09, 01:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Buffalo wrote:
PCR wrote:
Buffalo wrote:

Once again, excellent advice PCR!


:-). That advice was straight from the horse's mouth, except the part
where I asked him to strick with Richards -- but I don't know if
Richards still stricks!


I also wonder is he still does strick or not?


UPDATE: I've seen Richards still stricking in a nearby thread -- but it
wasn't as pretty a sight as it used to be! OK, bye.

Happy Thanksgiving.
Buffalo


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



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Old November 30th 09, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found an error
in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the files to fix the
problem.Then it tells you to restart,but nothing happens but the same
massage, over an over ,thanks in advance.

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Old November 30th 09, 12:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
randalel
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I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found an error
in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the files to fix the
problem.Then it tells you to restart,but nothing happens but the same
massage, over an over ,thanks in advance.

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Old November 30th 09, 01:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Don't top-post.

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found
an error in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the
files to fix the problem. Then it tells you to restart, but
nothing happens but the same massage, over an over ,thanks in
advance.


I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation


Who told you to replace your power supply?

You didn't have to re-install windows.

All you needed to do was to hold down the F8 key during startup and
select Boot into DOS. Then run scanreg /restore and choose an older
registry backup to restore. That's all you needed to do to fix the
problem.
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Old November 30th 09, 01:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Default windows 98 restart

Don't top-post.

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found
an error in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the
files to fix the problem. Then it tells you to restart, but
nothing happens but the same massage, over an over ,thanks in
advance.


I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation


Who told you to replace your power supply?

You didn't have to re-install windows.

All you needed to do was to hold down the F8 key during startup and
select Boot into DOS. Then run scanreg /restore and choose an older
registry backup to restore. That's all you needed to do to fix the
problem.
  #19  
Old November 30th 09, 09:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Default windows 98 restart

randalel wrote:
I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation


(1) Why did you change the power supply?
(2) After changing it, did the PC behave as before (giving that
error message), until you attempted a re-install?
(3) Does it shut off in DOS or in Safe Mode, if you can get there?
(Hold CTRL as you boot to get the Startup Menu, & select "Safe
Mode".)

The previous two questions are meant to determine whether the shut down
is caused by a poorly installed power supply or by the installation
process.

(4) What exactly are you doing to accomplish the re-install?

Here is an article that describes a fresh install of Windows...
http://www.hexff.com/win98_install.php
How to Clean Install, but...
(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
(c) Attend its warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral
drivers available to install afterwards.

(5) Here is an article that may descibe your current condition...

WARNING: Some say an over-install of Windows (as opposed to a fresh
install),
is a bad idea, as it may not get .vxd's right. WELL, it should be OK
just to extract Wininit.exe, though...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...98&Product=w98
Windows 95/98 Boots Directly to "Shut Down" Screen

........Quote of article............
SYMPTOMS
When you start your computer, you may see the following message:

It's now safe to turn off your computer
This behavior can occur in any mode.

CAUSE
This behavior can occur if the Vmm32.vxd or Wininit.exe file is missing
or damaged.

RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, follow these steps:

1. To Obtain a New Copy of the Wininit.exe File
Extract a new copy of the Wininit.exe file from your original Windows
95/98 disks or CD-ROM to the Windows folder. In Windows 95, the
Wininit.exe file is located in the Win95_11.cab cabinet file on the
Windows 95 CD-ROM or disk 11 of your original Windows 95 disks.

(In Win98SE, it's in WIN98_47.CAB. Also, see below how to do a DOS
extract. PCR.)

For more information about using the Extract tool, click Start, point to
Programs, click MS-DOS prompt, type extract, and then press ENTER.

For additional information about using the Extract tool, please see the
following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;129605
129605 How to Extract Original Compressed Windows Files

2. Restart the computer.

NOTE: If you installed Windows 95 from a CD-ROM, you may need to enable
the Mscdex.exe line in the Autoexec.bat file or reinstall the real-mode
CD-ROM drivers included with the CD-ROM drive before you can reinstall
Windows 95. After you enable the real-mode CD-ROM drivers, repeat step 1
to restart the computer.

To Re-Create the Vmm32.vxd File

1. Restart your computer. For Windows 95, when you see the "Starting
Windows 95" message, press the F8 key, and then choose Command Prompt
Only from the Startup menu. For Windows 98, press and hold down the CTRL
key after your computer completes the Power On Self Test (POST), and
then choose Command Prompt Only from the Startup menu.

2. Type the following line to change to the Windows\System folder:
cd \windows\system

3. Type the following line:
ren vmm32.vxd vmm32.old

4. Reinstall Windows 95/98.

(I guess it will want to go to "C:\Windows.000", but you must direct it
to "C:\Windows". PCR.)

NOTE: If you installed Windows 95 from a CD-ROM, you may need to enable
the Mscdex.exe line in the Autoexec.bat file or reinstall the real-mode
CD-ROM drivers included with the CD-ROM drive before you can reinstall
Windows 95. After you enable the real-mode CD-ROM drivers, repeat step 1
to restart the computer.

MORE INFORMATION
A Vmm32.vxd file is included on the Windows 95 disks and CD-ROM.
Extracting this version of the file does not solve the problem, as it is
an incomplete version of the file. You must run Setup to re-create a
system-specific Vmm32.vxd file.

If Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) is enabled in your
computer's Basic Input/Output System (BIOS), the "It's now safe to turn
off your computer" message may not be displayed when you shut down
Windows 95/98.

If this article does not describe your shutdown-related issue, please
see the following Microsoft Web site to view more articles about
shutting down Windows 98:

The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows 95
........End of quote.................

How to do a DOS extract of Wininit.exe. This will work for Win98 &
Win98SE without needing to know precisely which cab has the file. Not
sure about Win95. Here is what mine looks like in Win98SE...

WININIT.EXE
Type: Application
Loc: C:\WINDOWS
Size: 41,973 bytes
Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM

That is old enough never to have been Windows Updated. Therefore it will
be fine right out of the .cabs. Here is how to do it in DOS...

(a) DIR /s /a C:\WININIT.EXE
Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
"C:\Windows"

C:\DIR /s /a C:\WININIT.EXE
Directory of C:\WINDOWS
WININIT EXE 41,973 04-23-99 10:22p WININIT.EXE
1 file(s) 41,973 bytes

(b)
"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows LOC\Base4.cab Wininit.exe"

That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter
the quotes. It will offer to overwrite, if one is already there.

LOC is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
follows...

C:\DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
1 file(s) 168,960 bytes

If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be
located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.

So, in my case, the command is...

"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
Wininit.exe"

That's all one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line,
including one after "Base4.cab".

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found
an error in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the
files to fix the problem.Then it tells you to restart,but nothing
happens but the same massage, over an over ,thanks in advance.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



  #20  
Old November 30th 09, 09:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default windows 98 restart

randalel wrote:
I replaced the power supply now my pc shuts down during installation


(1) Why did you change the power supply?
(2) After changing it, did the PC behave as before (giving that
error message), until you attempted a re-install?
(3) Does it shut off in DOS or in Safe Mode, if you can get there?
(Hold CTRL as you boot to get the Startup Menu, & select "Safe
Mode".)

The previous two questions are meant to determine whether the shut down
is caused by a poorly installed power supply or by the installation
process.

(4) What exactly are you doing to accomplish the re-install?

Here is an article that describes a fresh install of Windows...
http://www.hexff.com/win98_install.php
How to Clean Install, but...
(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
(c) Attend its warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral
drivers available to install afterwards.

(5) Here is an article that may descibe your current condition...

WARNING: Some say an over-install of Windows (as opposed to a fresh
install),
is a bad idea, as it may not get .vxd's right. WELL, it should be OK
just to extract Wininit.exe, though...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...98&Product=w98
Windows 95/98 Boots Directly to "Shut Down" Screen

........Quote of article............
SYMPTOMS
When you start your computer, you may see the following message:

It's now safe to turn off your computer
This behavior can occur in any mode.

CAUSE
This behavior can occur if the Vmm32.vxd or Wininit.exe file is missing
or damaged.

RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, follow these steps:

1. To Obtain a New Copy of the Wininit.exe File
Extract a new copy of the Wininit.exe file from your original Windows
95/98 disks or CD-ROM to the Windows folder. In Windows 95, the
Wininit.exe file is located in the Win95_11.cab cabinet file on the
Windows 95 CD-ROM or disk 11 of your original Windows 95 disks.

(In Win98SE, it's in WIN98_47.CAB. Also, see below how to do a DOS
extract. PCR.)

For more information about using the Extract tool, click Start, point to
Programs, click MS-DOS prompt, type extract, and then press ENTER.

For additional information about using the Extract tool, please see the
following article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;129605
129605 How to Extract Original Compressed Windows Files

2. Restart the computer.

NOTE: If you installed Windows 95 from a CD-ROM, you may need to enable
the Mscdex.exe line in the Autoexec.bat file or reinstall the real-mode
CD-ROM drivers included with the CD-ROM drive before you can reinstall
Windows 95. After you enable the real-mode CD-ROM drivers, repeat step 1
to restart the computer.

To Re-Create the Vmm32.vxd File

1. Restart your computer. For Windows 95, when you see the "Starting
Windows 95" message, press the F8 key, and then choose Command Prompt
Only from the Startup menu. For Windows 98, press and hold down the CTRL
key after your computer completes the Power On Self Test (POST), and
then choose Command Prompt Only from the Startup menu.

2. Type the following line to change to the Windows\System folder:
cd \windows\system

3. Type the following line:
ren vmm32.vxd vmm32.old

4. Reinstall Windows 95/98.

(I guess it will want to go to "C:\Windows.000", but you must direct it
to "C:\Windows". PCR.)

NOTE: If you installed Windows 95 from a CD-ROM, you may need to enable
the Mscdex.exe line in the Autoexec.bat file or reinstall the real-mode
CD-ROM drivers included with the CD-ROM drive before you can reinstall
Windows 95. After you enable the real-mode CD-ROM drivers, repeat step 1
to restart the computer.

MORE INFORMATION
A Vmm32.vxd file is included on the Windows 95 disks and CD-ROM.
Extracting this version of the file does not solve the problem, as it is
an incomplete version of the file. You must run Setup to re-create a
system-specific Vmm32.vxd file.

If Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) is enabled in your
computer's Basic Input/Output System (BIOS), the "It's now safe to turn
off your computer" message may not be displayed when you shut down
Windows 95/98.

If this article does not describe your shutdown-related issue, please
see the following Microsoft Web site to view more articles about
shutting down Windows 98:

The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows 95
........End of quote.................

How to do a DOS extract of Wininit.exe. This will work for Win98 &
Win98SE without needing to know precisely which cab has the file. Not
sure about Win95. Here is what mine looks like in Win98SE...

WININIT.EXE
Type: Application
Loc: C:\WINDOWS
Size: 41,973 bytes
Mod: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:22:00 PM

That is old enough never to have been Windows Updated. Therefore it will
be fine right out of the .cabs. Here is how to do it in DOS...

(a) DIR /s /a C:\WININIT.EXE
Will say whether you have it, & where it is. Should be in
"C:\Windows"

C:\DIR /s /a C:\WININIT.EXE
Directory of C:\WINDOWS
WININIT EXE 41,973 04-23-99 10:22p WININIT.EXE
1 file(s) 41,973 bytes

(b)
"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows LOC\Base4.cab Wininit.exe"

That is all one line between the quotes with 5 spaces, but do not enter
the quotes. It will offer to overwrite, if one is already there.

LOC is the location of "Base4.cab". This may be discovered as
follows...

C:\DIR /s /a C:\base4.cab
Directory of C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
BASE4 CAB 168,960 04-23-99 10:22p BASE4.CAB
1 file(s) 168,960 bytes

If you have the .cabs on a CD, you will use your CD-ROM drive letter,
instead of "C:\" in that DIR command. And probably it will find it to be
located in... "X:\Win98"... where "X:\" is the CD-ROM letter.

So, in my case, the command is...

"EXTRACT /a /L C:\Windows C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\Base4.cab
Wininit.exe"

That's all one line: no quotes: there are 5 spaces in the line,
including one after "Base4.cab".

"randalel" wrote:

When windows is booting up i get this error massage .Windows found
an error in your system files and restored a recent back-up of the
files to fix the problem.Then it tells you to restart,but nothing
happens but the same massage, over an over ,thanks in advance.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR



 




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