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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
I have spent several hours finding things like "Bargain Buddy" and the rest
of the keys installed by the "bridge.dll"(an adware horror) and fellow travelers that show up as [now] disabled in MSCONFIG. The files and folders referred to were deleted many systarts ago. The offending entries show up in the registry under My Computer\HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Win dows\Current Version\RUN- S'OK, I have never edited the registry. Is there any suspected problem with deleting these "RUN-" keys? Thanks, FACE |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
If you delete an item from the RUN key then the item will not run at
startup. If other things depend on that application running, they won't work. Most of the things that appear under Run can be started manually if required, but not all. If uncertain, export the relevant key before deleting - if it causes a problem, import it back into the registry. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (DTS) "FACE" wrote in message ... I have spent several hours finding things like "Bargain Buddy" and the rest of the keys installed by the "bridge.dll"(an adware horror) and fellow travelers that show up as [now] disabled in MSCONFIG. The files and folders referred to were deleted many systarts ago. The offending entries show up in the registry under My Computer\HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Win dows\Current Version\RUN- S'OK, I have never edited the registry. Is there any suspected problem with deleting these "RUN-" keys? Thanks, FACE |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
The minus behind RUN indicates that it is a disabled entry in msconfig. You
can delete the entire key if you desire and that will remove the unmarked entries from msconfig, startup tab. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "FACE" wrote in message ... I have spent several hours finding things like "Bargain Buddy" and the rest of the keys installed by the "bridge.dll"(an adware horror) and fellow travelers that show up as [now] disabled in MSCONFIG. The files and folders referred to were deleted many systarts ago. The offending entries show up in the registry under My Computer\HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Win dows\Current Version\RUN- S'OK, I have never edited the registry. Is there any suspected problem with deleting these "RUN-" keys? Thanks, FACE |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
Thanks Ron, I figured that to be the case although it did not say it. All
score or so entries in that section were the disabled items and the section followed a "RUN" section. I have deleted 4 of them and cleaned the registry and will reboot in a few minutes to make sure that all is well and if so, delete the rest. I am sending this now because if all is not well.....well....G BTW, the ones i did delete have already disappeared from the MSCONFIG display. FACE On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:44:36 -0500, "Ron Badour" in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: The minus behind RUN indicates that it is a disabled entry in msconfig. You can delete the entire key if you desire and that will remove the unmarked entries from msconfig, startup tab. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
Ah, just rebooted. That wasn't so bad.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:00:35 -0400, FACE in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: Thanks Ron, I figured that to be the case although it did not say it. All score or so entries in that section were the disabled items and the section followed a "RUN" section. I have deleted 4 of them and cleaned the registry and will reboot in a few minutes to make sure that all is well and if so, delete the rest. I am sending this now because if all is not well.....well....G BTW, the ones i did delete have already disappeared from the MSCONFIG display. FACE On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:44:36 -0500, "Ron Badour" in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: The minus behind RUN indicates that it is a disabled entry in msconfig. You can delete the entire key if you desire and that will remove the unmarked entries from msconfig, startup tab. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
Thanks Jeff. This section is "RUN-" which fairly speaks for what it is as
it follows the "RUN" section. All is OK now. On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 10:06:15 +1000, "Jeff Richards" in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: If you delete an item from the RUN key then the item will not run at startup. If other things depend on that application running, they won't work. Most of the things that appear under Run can be started manually if required, but not all. If uncertain, export the relevant key before deleting - if it causes a problem, import it back into the registry. |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
If you have any remaining boxes in the startup tab that are not marked,
there can be other places to clean up. Here is my standard blurb: There are seven run keys in the registry that are used to start programs: 1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run 2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run 3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce 4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce 5. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ RunServices 6. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ RunServicesOnce 7. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\ RunOnce\Setup If there is an item disabled in the Startup tab, MSconfig.exe, that was in one of these keys, it will be in an identically named key except that there will be a minus at the end, i.e., Run- I suppose any key could be duplicated; however, I have only found keys #1, #2 and #5 duplicated in my registry with a minus. If you want to get rid of a non-marked entry in MSconfig, delete the key with the minus sign behind it. When you disable an entry that is in the startup folder on the start menu, a folder is created on the start menu called Disabled Startup Items. As appropriate, delete the item from either the registry key or the Disabled folder. If the item is the only thing in the registry key or Disabled folder, you can delete the key or the folder also. Items can start from the run= and load= lines in the win.ini file. If disabled, they are placed in a norun= or noload= line. Go into the win.ini file and change the appropriate line back to the way it was, i.e., change norun=application name to run= and save the file. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "FACE" wrote in message ... Ah, just rebooted. That wasn't so bad. On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:00:35 -0400, FACE in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: Thanks Ron, I figured that to be the case although it did not say it. All score or so entries in that section were the disabled items and the section followed a "RUN" section. I have deleted 4 of them and cleaned the registry and will reboot in a few minutes to make sure that all is well and if so, delete the rest. I am sending this now because if all is not well.....well....G BTW, the ones i did delete have already disappeared from the MSCONFIG display. FACE On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:44:36 -0500, "Ron Badour" in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: The minus behind RUN indicates that it is a disabled entry in msconfig. You can delete the entire key if you desire and that will remove the unmarked entries from msconfig, startup tab. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:03:25 -0500, "Ron Badour" in
microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: Items can start from the run= and load= lines in the win.ini file. If disabled, they are placed in a norun= or noload= line. Go into the win.ini file and change the appropriate line back to the way it was, i.e., change norun=application name to run= and save the file. Curiously there were no noload or norun lines in win.ini. I also checked the boot section of system.ini. Yesterday, before i went to the registry, I had checked The run keys of the system registry The C:\Windows\Program Menu\startup folder. The C:\Windows\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp folder. The Autoexec.bat file (Win95-98) The Config.sys file (Win95-98) The load= & Run= lines of the [windows] section in win.ini. The [boot] section of system.ini. Winstart.bat if it exists, otherwise this is not a normal place for Win9x to load programs (Thanks for the pointer to that list glee29) The only place these start-up programs appeared was in the registry. Both of the start-up folders in the list were empty folders, though part of the win98 tree. I was keying in on 'ojmf.exe' and 'msbb.exe' in a system wide text search but they were never located so *apparently* the registry is in a proprietary compiled format. I wish I knew the actual name of the registry file(s) but I don't. I am more of a drop to diskette a good copy of the registry and overwrite the bad one with that through DOS if a problem. Yes, I am archaic. G I went straight from Win 3.1 to Win98 Original release and am now on SE because in the future I expect to need my USB ports. The reason I was so skittish about making the changes with regedit is because since Win95 came out i have always heard how fragile the registry is and most all of the MS web pages on Registry changes end up with 'Do this at your own risk' and too many people run away screaming when you mention actually editing system files. It is interesting to me how we innately trust the installation exe's to rip the system sideways and up and down yet when it comes to making a manual change it becomes 'your own risk'.....with the implication "don't do it". I do have a computer background as a systems programmer but it is mainframe (over ten years ago) and i see PC's becoming much like TV's in that "computer literacy" is quickly becoming knowing where the ON button is and high tech consists of knowing where the installation CD is. Obviously, I use a text editor with hex edit capability (which I have used). Will the 'drop in from DOS' of a good registry file(s) work? Comments appreciated. FACE Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
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-- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "FACE" wrote in message ... Curiously there were no noload or norun lines in win.ini. The only time you would find this is if a program was being started from the load= or run= lines and you disabled them from msconfig, startup tab. The only place these start-up programs appeared was in the registry. Both of the start-up folders in the list were empty folders, though part of the win98 tree. The registry run keys are the primary places where applications are started at boot. I was keying in on 'ojmf.exe' and 'msbb.exe' in a system wide text search but they were never located so *apparently* the registry is in a proprietary compiled format. Not sure what you mean here. I find no info on ojmf.exe on the internet so I would suspect it is either a virus or spy/adware. Msbb.exe is spyware courtesey of web3000.com I wish I knew the actual name of the registry file(s) but I don't. The registry files are named system.dat and user.dat. I am more of a drop to diskette a good copy of the registry and overwrite the bad one with that through DOS if a problem. Yes, I am archaic. G I went straight from Win 3.1 to Win98 Original release and am now on SE because in the future I expect to need my USB ports. W98 has its own registry back up and restore program. For information on the registry, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/registry.html The reason I was so skittish about making the changes with regedit is because since Win95 came out i have always heard how fragile the registry is and most all of the MS web pages on Registry changes end up with 'Do this at your own risk' and too many people run away screaming when you mention actually editing system files. The reason that caution is listed is because changes in the registry are made immediately and if a person screws up the change, the system may not boot. It is merely CYA so a user cannot come back and say, "I followed your advice and it totalled my system." See my comments about the registry above. I do have a computer background as a systems programmer but it is mainframe (over ten years ago) and i see PC's becoming much like TV's in that "computer literacy" is quickly becoming knowing where the ON button is and high tech consists of knowing where the installation CD is. It has been that way for some time now. Will the 'drop in from DOS' of a good registry file(s) work? See my registry comments above. |
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REGEDIT -- cleaning up the registry
Thanks for all the info Ron. I read your registry page. I downloaded
"Regmon" and ran it -- it had an undeniable advantage.....it was free. I am unsure of is all of the "remote access" keys being read, such as: Propelac: OpenKey HKCU\RemoteAccess\Addresses SUCCESS hKey: 0xC2A161E0 But since PropelAC is a program from my ISP that I am running, I guess it is OK. The only other remote access that i saw was from my ISP itself. So all in all I guess i am comfortable with it unless I see something alien. And yes i know that PC's have been a lot like TVs for some time but I'm a stubborn old git. -- FACE On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:19:26 -0500, "Ron Badour" in microsoft.public.win98.performance wrote: Comments in line: |
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