program without name?

Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program name in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were found.

Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program name in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
found.

Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files that
have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the problem.

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program name
in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
found.

Maybe this explains something. Following lines are from the bootlog:
[001453B1] Starting Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
[001453B1] Started Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
[001453B1] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
[001453B1] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
[001453B1] Starting Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
[001453B2] Started Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
[001453B2] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
[001453B2] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)

"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files
that
have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
problem.

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike
other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program
name
in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had
the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
found.

Those lines in Bootlog.txt are quite NORMAL, if somewhat mysterious. I have them too! If you have no virus or spy, it must be something more benign at fault. Maybe, take a second look for a virus at...

http://www.mcafee.com/us/
Free online scan. It will not effect a cure, but only report.

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
Also McAfee. Will effect a cure for certain viruses only.

....After that...

(1) Do you close your NET connection, BEFORE you shutdown?
It's best to keep Windows's shutdown routine uncomplicated.

(2) Do you close IE, OE & all big apps, BEFORE you shutdown,
& wait for icon to leave the Taskbar?
I, myself, have sometimes crashed, if I don't do that!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"C.D. Koger" wrote in message ...
| Maybe this explains something. Following lines are from the bootlog:
| [001453B1] Starting Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
| [001453B1] Started Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
| [001453B1] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
| [001453B1] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\ROOT\0)
| [001453B1] Starting Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
| [001453B2] Started Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
| [001453B2] Enumerating Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
| [001453B2] Enumerated Unknown (HTREE\RESERVED\0)
|
| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
| ...
| Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
| program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files
| that
| have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
| problem.
|
| "Ron Badour" wrote in message
| ...
| Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
| recommend
| you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
| removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
| frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them before
| every use including the first time.
|
| AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
|
| Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/
|
| CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
| removes
| certain spyware programs
|
| --
| Regards
|
|
| Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
| Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
| Knowledge Base Info:
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
|
|
|
| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
| ...
| Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
| window
| appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike
| other
| cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program
| name
| in
| the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does
| never
| appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
| manually
| Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had
| the
| whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
| found.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

Go to Run on the start menu and type: msconfig and click OK. When the
screen appears, click the start tab and check every item that is being
started at boot. If you do not recognize the entry, use a google.com search
to identify each item being started. Maybe that will identify the mystery
program. Also, do a full scan with an up to date anti virus program. I ran
into a stubborn Trojan recently--the .dll file was not identified as a
Trojan but it created files that were identified. I finally pin pointed the
file and had to delete it from DOS as it was being started very early in the
boot process and was not being started at the usual start up points.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files
that
have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
problem.

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program name
in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
found.

All item started at boot are valid Microsoft, ATI and Lexmark modules.
Nothing suspicious. What I did notice though, is that after closing the
internet explorer (version 6 with SP1), ctrl-alt-del shows still one or more
internet explorers active. If I kill these manually, shutdown works like it
should...

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Go to Run on the start menu and type: msconfig and click OK. When the
screen appears, click the start tab and check every item that is being
started at boot. If you do not recognize the entry, use a google.com
search
to identify each item being started. Maybe that will identify the mystery
program. Also, do a full scan with an up to date anti virus program. I
ran
into a stubborn Trojan recently--the .dll file was not identified as a
Trojan but it created files that were identified. I finally pin pointed
the
file and had to delete it from DOS as it was being started very early in
the
boot process and was not being started at the usual start up points.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files
that
have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
problem.

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them
before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike
other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program
name
in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window
does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had
the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses were
found.

You're still infested. With any serious infestation of scumware, you're
going to need to run a *lot* of different cleaners in order to get it all
out, and even then it's a toss-up. In addition to running all of the apps
Ron suggested, see
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.com
http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm

-
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
All item started at boot are valid Microsoft, ATI and Lexmark modules.
Nothing suspicious. What I did notice though, is that after closing the
internet explorer (version 6 with SP1), ctrl-alt-del shows still one or
more
internet explorers active. If I kill these manually, shutdown works like
it
should...

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Go to Run on the start menu and type: msconfig and click OK. When the
screen appears, click the start tab and check every item that is being
started at boot. If you do not recognize the entry, use a google.com
search
to identify each item being started. Maybe that will identify the
mystery
program. Also, do a full scan with an up to date anti virus program. I
ran
into a stubborn Trojan recently--the .dll file was not identified as a
Trojan but it created files that were identified. I finally pin pointed
the
file and had to delete it from DOS as it was being started very early in
the
boot process and was not being started at the usual start up points.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware. The
program found some registry entries and suspect malware/spyware files
that
have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
problem.

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
...
Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
recommend
you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and consider
removing everything these programs identify. Be aware that there are
frequent updates to these programs and you need to check for them
before
every use including the first time.

AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/

CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html This
removes
certain spyware programs

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"C.D. Koger" wrote in message
...
Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well
known
window
appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike
other
cases when an application has stopped running, there is no program
name
in
the window. There is nothing in the startup folder and the window
does
never
appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
manually
Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I had
the
whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no viruses
were
found.

Without the current application, the ctl-alt-del window always has following
entries:
Explorer
Atitask
Lexpps
Stimon
Systray
Dit
Aticwd32
Linksts
Rnaap
The 'ghost' program is of course not listed there because it has no process
name. I suspect it is a part of the internet explorer because there are no
shutdown problems if IE was not used in that session. If IE was loaded and
closed again, and the machine is left idle for some time, suddenly the
dialup window appears and waits for password entry. It can be closed but
keeps reappearing at random intervals between 5 and 30 minutes. To me it
seems that the IE hosts a hidden process that stays resident and ignores the
windows shutdown command.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
C.D. Koger wrote:
| All item started at boot are valid Microsoft, ATI and Lexmark modules.
| Nothing suspicious. What I did notice though, is that after closing
| the internet explorer (version 6 with SP1), ctrl-alt-del shows still
| one or more internet explorers active. If I kill these manually,
| shutdown works like it should...

And they don't show up as buttons on the Taskbar, for you to "R-Clk,
Close" there? What is the precise wording of them in the Ctrl-Alt-Del
window?


| "Ron Badour" wrote in message
| ...
|| Go to Run on the start menu and type: msconfig and click OK. When
|| the screen appears, click the start tab and check every item that is
|| being started at boot. If you do not recognize the entry, use a
|| google.com search to identify each item being started. Maybe that
|| will identify the mystery program. Also, do a full scan with an up
|| to date anti virus program. I ran into a stubborn Trojan
|| recently--the .dll file was not identified as a Trojan but it
|| created files that were identified. I finally pin pointed the file
|| and had to delete it from DOS as it was being started very early in
|| the boot process and was not being started at the usual start up
|| points.
||
|| --
|| Regards
||
||
|| Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
|| Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
|| Knowledge Base Info:
|| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
||
||
||
|| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
|| ...
||| Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware.
||| The program found some registry entries and suspect
||| malware/spyware files that
||| have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
||| problem.
|||
||| "Ron Badour" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
|||| recommend
|||| you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and
|||| consider removing everything these programs identify. Be aware
|||| that there are frequent updates to these programs and you need to
|||| check for them before every use including the first time.
||||
|||| AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
||||
|||| Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/
||||
|||| CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html
|||| This removes certain spyware programs
||||
|||| --
|||| Regards
||||
||||
|||| Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
|||| Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
|||| Knowledge Base Info:
|||| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
||||
||||
||||
|||| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
|||| ...
||||| Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well
||||| known window
||||| appears with the message "this program is not responding". Unlike
||||| other cases when an application has stopped running, there is no
||||| program name in the window. There is nothing in the startup
||||| folder and the window does never
||||| appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the program
||||| manually
||||| Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I
||||| had the whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no
||||| viruses were found.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

C.D. Koger wrote:
| Without the current application, the ctl-alt-del window always has
| following entries:
| Explorer
| Atitask
| Lexpps
| Stimon
| Systray
| Dit
| Aticwd32
| Linksts
| Rnaap
| The 'ghost' program is of course not listed there because it has no
| process name. I suspect it is a part of the internet explorer because
| there are no shutdown problems if IE was not used in that session. If
| IE was loaded and closed again, and the machine is left idle for some
| time, suddenly the dialup window appears and waits for password
| entry. It can be closed but keeps reappearing at random intervals
| between 5 and 30 minutes. To me it seems that the IE hosts a hidden
| process that stays resident and ignores the windows shutdown command.

I don't see Internet Explorer in that list. Other than Explorer,
Systray, & Rnaap, none of those are in my list. That isn't to say any is
necessarily a virus. I think, though, you should double-check on
ThrendMicro with...

http://www.mcafee.com/us/
Free online scan. It will not effect a cure, but only report.

http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/
Also McAfee. Will effect a cure for certain viruses only.

After that, do as Badour & Terhune have said. Here are some sites to
identify what appears at...
"START button, Run, MSInfo32, Software Environment, Startup Programs"

First pick one of these to identify what loads at boot. Next, see
whether there is an option in it's menus to disable it from starting up.
If you really want to rid yourself of it on a more permanent basis, then
look for it in "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs". However, it isn't
often easy to know what is what in there. One of these URL's may say.

http://aumha.org/a/loads.htm
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/sheppard.p/startup.htm
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm
http://www.djbdesigns.com/wtvzone/startup.html
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
http://www.rickrogers.org/clean.htm
http://www.sysinfo.org/startupinfo.html
http://www.windowsstartup.com/wso/search.php
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/start.htm
http://www2.whidbey.com/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.3feetunder.com/krick/startup/list.html


|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
|| C.D. Koger wrote:
||| All item started at boot are valid Microsoft, ATI and Lexmark
||| modules. Nothing suspicious. What I did notice though, is that
||| after closing the internet explorer (version 6 with SP1),
||| ctrl-alt-del shows still one or more internet explorers active. If
||| I kill these manually, shutdown works like it should...
||
|| And they don't show up as buttons on the Taskbar, for you to "R-Clk,
|| Close" there? What is the precise wording of them in the Ctrl-Alt-Del
|| window?
||
||
||| "Ron Badour" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| Go to Run on the start menu and type: msconfig and click OK.
|||| When the screen appears, click the start tab and check every item
|||| that is being started at boot. If you do not recognize the entry,
|||| use a google.com search to identify each item being started.
|||| Maybe that will identify the mystery program. Also, do a full
|||| scan with an up to date anti virus program. I ran into a stubborn
|||| Trojan recently--the .dll file was not identified as a Trojan but
|||| it created files that were identified. I finally pin pointed the
|||| file and had to delete it from DOS as it was being started very
|||| early in the boot process and was not being started at the usual
|||| start up points.
||||
|||| --
|||| Regards
||||
||||
|||| Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
|||| Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
|||| Knowledge Base Info:
|||| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
||||
||||
||||
|||| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
|||| ...
||||| Following your suggestions I have downloaded and executed Adaware.
||||| The program found some registry entries and suspect
||||| malware/spyware files that
||||| have all been removed now. The operation did however not solve the
||||| problem.
|||||
||||| "Ron Badour" wrote in message
||||| ...
|||||| Spyware/scumware/adware are causing numerous system problems. I
|||||| recommend
|||||| you download and use either AdAware or Spybot (or both) and
|||||| consider removing everything these programs identify. Be aware
|||||| that there are frequent updates to these programs and you need to
|||||| check for them before every use including the first time.
||||||
|||||| AdAwa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
||||||
|||||| Spybot: http://www.safer-networking.org/
||||||
|||||| CWShredder: http://www.intermute.com/products/cwshredder.html
|||||| This removes certain spyware programs
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| Regards
||||||
||||||
|||||| Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
|||||| Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
|||||| Knowledge Base Info:
|||||| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo
||||||
||||||
||||||
|||||| "C.D. Koger" wrote in message
|||||| ...
||||||| Whenever I had internet access and want to close down, the well
||||||| known window
||||||| appears with the message "this program is not responding".
||||||| Unlike other cases when an application has stopped running,
||||||| there is no program name in the window. There is nothing in the
||||||| startup folder and the window does never
||||||| appear without previous internet access. Unless I stop the
||||||| program manually
||||||| Win98SE does not close down. Is this a known issue with IE 5? I
||||||| had the whole system checked by TrendMicro's house call, but no
||||||| viruses were found.