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Old March 15th 06, 08:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Running Win Me
System model: Emachines 733i
Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
Memory 260 MB
56K dial-up modem
IE version 6.1

Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to me) -
Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional utility
tool to perform
periodic backups?
Thank you,

Ed




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Old March 15th 06, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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As the phrase you used was :-.
periodic backups


You *may* be lucky, but it also depends on the following :-

Microsoft's MSBackup installer (msbexp.exe) is included and located on an MS
retail copy of the WinMe CD in the 'add-ons' folder under MSBackup. There is
a backup.txt file there which tells you how to install it. NB. If you have
an OEM version of WinMe, it is probably not included. (Or if you weren't
supplied with a WinMe CD, do you know anyone with an MS retail CD?)

See also MS KB article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q264541

However, if you have a CD burner on your PC (or even a spare, second HDD),
you might well find that it is far easier to simply burn a copy of your data
files to CD (or second HDD). Note: MSBackup is not intended to 'image' your
HDD, but to only back-up selected files as you alluded in your question.

N.B. - MSBackup is somewhat 'long-in-the-tooth' now and was really intended
for backing-up to floppy disks or tape drives.

HTH

Mart


"Ed Meza" wrote in message
ink.net...
Running Win Me
System model: Emachines 733i
Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
Memory 260 MB
56K dial-up modem
IE version 6.1

Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to
me) -
Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional utility
tool to perform
periodic backups?
Thank you,

Ed





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Old March 15th 06, 10:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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From: "Ed Meza"

| Running Win Me
| System model: Emachines 733i
| Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
| Memory 260 MB
| 56K dial-up modem
| IE version 6.1
|
| Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to me) -
| Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional utility
| tool to perform
| periodic backups?
| Thank you,
|
| Ed
|

You need a backup media. DVDRW drives are good. Often they come with backup software and
you can use DVD/RW discs as the backup media.

I used to use a 12GB DAT3 SCSI tape drive until it started breaking tapes. Now I use a
DVDRW drive for my weekly backups incorporating DVD/RW discs. However I need to replace
that becuase 4.7GB (with compression) is not enough for me.

I use Veritas BackupExec Desktop v4.61 { now a Symantec product :-( } It did not come with
my HP DVDRW drive but it did come with another product, however not as good.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old March 16th 06, 12:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Thank you Mart and David

The options you provided are most welcome.
Mart, unfortunately, I don't know anyone with an MS retail CD. Nor do I
have the WinME CD in the 'add-ons' folder, thus no backup.txt file.
Note that I meant to backing up the whole system, as opposed to selected
files, thus
backing up to a CD will most likely result in an extremely long process.

David, pardon me for not being computer savvy. My hard disk only has the
floppy disk and CD. Do you mean that I'd either have to buy an adapter or a
new hard disk to accommodate the DVD/RW?
Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?
Again, appreciate your feedback.

Regards,

Ed
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Ed Meza"

| Running Win Me
| System model: Emachines 733i
| Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
| Memory 260 MB
| 56K dial-up modem
| IE version 6.1
|
| Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to

me) -
| Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional

utility
| tool to perform
| periodic backups?
| Thank you,
|
| Ed
|

You need a backup media. DVDRW drives are good. Often they come with

backup software and
you can use DVD/RW discs as the backup media.

I used to use a 12GB DAT3 SCSI tape drive until it started breaking tapes.

Now I use a
DVDRW drive for my weekly backups incorporating DVD/RW discs. However I

need to replace
that becuase 4.7GB (with compression) is not enough for me.

I use Veritas BackupExec Desktop v4.61 { now a Symantec product :-( } It

did not come with
my HP DVDRW drive but it did come with another product, however not as

good.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm




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Old March 16th 06, 01:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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From: "Ed Meza"

| Thank you Mart and David
|
| The options you provided are most welcome.
| Mart, unfortunately, I don't know anyone with an MS retail CD. Nor do I
| have the WinME CD in the 'add-ons' folder, thus no backup.txt file.
| Note that I meant to backing up the whole system, as opposed to selected
| files, thus
| backing up to a CD will most likely result in an extremely long process.
|
| David, pardon me for not being computer savvy. My hard disk only has the
| floppy disk and CD. Do you mean that I'd either have to buy an adapter or a
| new hard disk to accommodate the DVD/RW?
| Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform the
| system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
| contents to 5 or more CD's?
| Again, appreciate your feedback.
|
| Regards,
|
| Ed

DVDRW - DVD Re-Writable drive. It will read CDROM, CD-audio, DVD and DVD/RW disks. It will
also create CDROM, CD-audio, DVD and DVD/RW disks.

If you have only ONE 5 1/4" bay in which your CDROM is located, you would replace the CDROM
drive with a DVDRW drive.

If you have an empty 5 1/4" bay you can add a DVDRW drive. Then you can actually copy a CD
from the CDROM drive to the DVDRW drive.

They are easy to install and the drives don't cost alot.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


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Old March 16th 06, 01:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Ed, you will now have realised that backing-up or 'imaging' your full hard
drive is not quite as simple as you probably first thought - particularly as
the amount of back-up media required is very likely to be at least several
hundreds of MB and probably quite a lot more, depending on the size of your
HDD and the amount of used space - as David implied. Hence the suggestions
of burning the data to CD or DVD, for which you will need a CD (or DVD/CD)
burner - and the associated software. Or, alternatively, install a second
hard drive and copy or 'image' your existing drive to that. Either option -
particularly the second - can usually be done in minutes, rather than hours,
which was the practice with tape.

Assuming you want to 'image' the whole of your HDD (rather than just copy
(back-up) selected data folders/files only) you will need a third party
Imaging Software utility e.g. Drive Image, Veritas, Norton Ghost, etc.,
(Google is your friend g)

The arguments for and against 'imaging' as opposed to just backing-up
(copying) your data-only folders/files can become quite heated and not one
that I intend to be drawn into. However, you should certainly back-up (i.e.
simply copy) your valuable (personal?) data files regularly, if only to
floppy disks.

Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?


I'll now leave you to answer your own question g

Good luck

Mart



"Ed Meza" wrote in message
nk.net...
Thank you Mart and David

The options you provided are most welcome.
Mart, unfortunately, I don't know anyone with an MS retail CD. Nor do I
have the WinME CD in the 'add-ons' folder, thus no backup.txt file.
Note that I meant to backing up the whole system, as opposed to selected
files, thus
backing up to a CD will most likely result in an extremely long process.

David, pardon me for not being computer savvy. My hard disk only has the
floppy disk and CD. Do you mean that I'd either have to buy an adapter or
a
new hard disk to accommodate the DVD/RW?
Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?
Again, appreciate your feedback.

Regards,

Ed
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Ed Meza"

| Running Win Me
| System model: Emachines 733i
| Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
| Memory 260 MB
| 56K dial-up modem
| IE version 6.1
|
| Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to

me) -
| Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional

utility
| tool to perform
| periodic backups?
| Thank you,
|
| Ed
|

You need a backup media. DVDRW drives are good. Often they come with

backup software and
you can use DVD/RW discs as the backup media.

I used to use a 12GB DAT3 SCSI tape drive until it started breaking
tapes.

Now I use a
DVDRW drive for my weekly backups incorporating DVD/RW discs. However I

need to replace
that becuase 4.7GB (with compression) is not enough for me.

I use Veritas BackupExec Desktop v4.61 { now a Symantec product :-( } It

did not come with
my HP DVDRW drive but it did come with another product, however not as

good.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm






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Old March 17th 06, 07:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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Thanks Mart and David - Very good arguments and points. The last comments
on Mart's response make a lot of sense to me. Thus I'd most likely start
with just backing up the program folders and files. Visiting Mr. Google, et
al - are also my intentions.
Again, appreciate you sharing your ideas.

Regards,

Ed


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ed, you will now have realised that backing-up or 'imaging' your full hard
drive is not quite as simple as you probably first thought - particularly

as
the amount of back-up media required is very likely to be at least several
hundreds of MB and probably quite a lot more, depending on the size of

your
HDD and the amount of used space - as David implied. Hence the suggestions
of burning the data to CD or DVD, for which you will need a CD (or DVD/CD)
burner - and the associated software. Or, alternatively, install a second
hard drive and copy or 'image' your existing drive to that. Either

option -
particularly the second - can usually be done in minutes, rather than

hours,
which was the practice with tape.

Assuming you want to 'image' the whole of your HDD (rather than just copy
(back-up) selected data folders/files only) you will need a third party
Imaging Software utility e.g. Drive Image, Veritas, Norton Ghost, etc.,
(Google is your friend g)

The arguments for and against 'imaging' as opposed to just backing-up
(copying) your data-only folders/files can become quite heated and not one
that I intend to be drawn into. However, you should certainly back-up

(i.e.
simply copy) your valuable (personal?) data files regularly, if only to
floppy disks.

Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?


I'll now leave you to answer your own question g

Good luck

Mart



"Ed Meza" wrote in message
nk.net...
Thank you Mart and David

The options you provided are most welcome.
Mart, unfortunately, I don't know anyone with an MS retail CD. Nor do I
have the WinME CD in the 'add-ons' folder, thus no backup.txt file.
Note that I meant to backing up the whole system, as opposed to selected
files, thus
backing up to a CD will most likely result in an extremely long process.

David, pardon me for not being computer savvy. My hard disk only has the
floppy disk and CD. Do you mean that I'd either have to buy an adapter

or
a
new hard disk to accommodate the DVD/RW?
Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?
Again, appreciate your feedback.

Regards,

Ed
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Ed Meza"

| Running Win Me
| System model: Emachines 733i
| Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
| Memory 260 MB
| 56K dial-up modem
| IE version 6.1
|
| Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given to

me) -
| Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional

utility
| tool to perform
| periodic backups?
| Thank you,
|
| Ed
|

You need a backup media. DVDRW drives are good. Often they come with

backup software and
you can use DVD/RW discs as the backup media.

I used to use a 12GB DAT3 SCSI tape drive until it started breaking
tapes.

Now I use a
DVDRW drive for my weekly backups incorporating DVD/RW discs. However

I
need to replace
that becuase 4.7GB (with compression) is not enough for me.

I use Veritas BackupExec Desktop v4.61 { now a Symantec product :-( }

It
did not come with
my HP DVDRW drive but it did come with another product, however not as

good.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm








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Old March 17th 06, 11:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
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You're welcome Ed and good luck.

Mart


"Ed Meza" wrote in message
ink.net...
Thanks Mart and David - Very good arguments and points. The last comments
on Mart's response make a lot of sense to me. Thus I'd most likely start
with just backing up the program folders and files. Visiting Mr. Google,
et
al - are also my intentions.
Again, appreciate you sharing your ideas.

Regards,

Ed


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Ed, you will now have realised that backing-up or 'imaging' your full
hard
drive is not quite as simple as you probably first thought - particularly

as
the amount of back-up media required is very likely to be at least
several
hundreds of MB and probably quite a lot more, depending on the size of

your
HDD and the amount of used space - as David implied. Hence the
suggestions
of burning the data to CD or DVD, for which you will need a CD (or
DVD/CD)
burner - and the associated software. Or, alternatively, install a second
hard drive and copy or 'image' your existing drive to that. Either

option -
particularly the second - can usually be done in minutes, rather than

hours,
which was the practice with tape.

Assuming you want to 'image' the whole of your HDD (rather than just copy
(back-up) selected data folders/files only) you will need a third party
Imaging Software utility e.g. Drive Image, Veritas, Norton Ghost, etc.,
(Google is your friend g)

The arguments for and against 'imaging' as opposed to just backing-up
(copying) your data-only folders/files can become quite heated and not
one
that I intend to be drawn into. However, you should certainly back-up

(i.e.
simply copy) your valuable (personal?) data files regularly, if only to
floppy disks.

Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can
perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?


I'll now leave you to answer your own question g

Good luck

Mart



"Ed Meza" wrote in message
nk.net...
Thank you Mart and David

The options you provided are most welcome.
Mart, unfortunately, I don't know anyone with an MS retail CD. Nor do
I
have the WinME CD in the 'add-ons' folder, thus no backup.txt file.
Note that I meant to backing up the whole system, as opposed to
selected
files, thus
backing up to a CD will most likely result in an extremely long
process.

David, pardon me for not being computer savvy. My hard disk only has
the
floppy disk and CD. Do you mean that I'd either have to buy an adapter

or
a
new hard disk to accommodate the DVD/RW?
Bottom line, is there a user friendly version out there that can
perform
the
system, folders and files contents' backups without having to download
contents to 5 or more CD's?
Again, appreciate your feedback.

Regards,

Ed
"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Ed Meza"

| Running Win Me
| System model: Emachines 733i
| Processor: Intel 731 Mhz
| Memory 260 MB
| 56K dial-up modem
| IE version 6.1
|
| Would like to start backing up my system -(computer recently given
to
me) -
| Could anyone direct me to a link that has a simple and functional
utility
| tool to perform
| periodic backups?
| Thank you,
|
| Ed
|

You need a backup media. DVDRW drives are good. Often they come with
backup software and
you can use DVD/RW discs as the backup media.

I used to use a 12GB DAT3 SCSI tape drive until it started breaking
tapes.
Now I use a
DVDRW drive for my weekly backups incorporating DVD/RW discs. However

I
need to replace
that becuase 4.7GB (with compression) is not enough for me.

I use Veritas BackupExec Desktop v4.61 { now a Symantec product :-( }

It
did not come with
my HP DVDRW drive but it did come with another product, however not as
good.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm










 




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