unistalling win 98

Why not try and get your operating system up and running well before going to
XP. I use XP and it is okay but I would not suggest an upgrade as a way to
try and get yourself out of problems because it is likely to cause more
problems if you have not remedied the original problems.

"Mathers" wrote in message
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: ok, I followed all above steps and I'm back up a running. Boots up as it
: should. Now, very few of my apps actually work. I'll open up an app and
half
: way through, it tells me there are parameters missing and errors. Any idea
: why this happened or how to fix it. With as screwed up as things have been,
: I'm pondering upgrading to XP. Would you reccomend pulling over info I want
: to the 80Gb drive and formmating my old c:\? Will a simple upgrade disk to
XP
: be as effective and clean? Thanks again for all the help.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: If it really is scanning the 20GB drive for a bootable partition, and
isn't finding one, then you should try booting to a Startup Floppy disk and
running SYS C:
:
: If that doesn't do it, then you really do have problems, probably hard
drive problems. If it then boots but stalls while loading Windows, then
Windows needs repair or replacement.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Mathers" wrote in message
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: See, I have gone into the BIOS and set it back up as it should with
settings
: of SCSI/A:/C: but it still boots into the new c: instead of the SCSI
device.
: I'm going to try both of your suggestions and see what unfolds. Thanks!
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: After my signature, below, I've included advice from MVP Glen Ventura
("Glee"). It addresses what is probably your problem. As for getting the new
installation off of your 80GB drive, unless you already had Windows and
Program Files folders on that drive, you can simply delete those folders,
plus a small handful of files in the D:\ root folder. Be sure "Show All
Files" is enabled in Folder Options, View tab before you delete things, or
you'll miss a lot.
:
: As for the SCSI drive, unless your system is incredibly old, I still
think you should be able to go into BIOS and change the boot order so that
the ATA (80GB) drive is not included in the list. Without knowing exactly
what your BIOS offers for that list, I can't say precisely, but you need to
change that order so that the SCSI drive is at least looked at before the ATA
drive when BIOS goes looking for a bootable system.
:
: Come to think of it... Instead of deleting the Windows and Program
Files directories from your old (and presumably repaired) system, you can
boot a Windows Startup floppy boot disk to get rid of those directories.
Again, this only works if you did not previously have those directories. The
command to use is:
:
: DELTREE {driveletter}:\WINDOWS
: DELTREE {driveletter}:\PROGRA~1
:
: That should stop the drive from booting, and you can clean up the
files in the D:\ root folder once you've repaired the old system. *If* you
can't repair the old system (and it would be easiest to do that with the 80GB
drive disconnected), then you might consider reinstalling over the top, but I
wouldn't recommend that as a log-term solution. It's OK for getting back in
long enough to recover personal files, in preparation for a reformat an
"clean" install, but installing Windows over an updated system is a serious
retrograde--many newer system files will be overwritten with older files. You
*could* follow that with a reinstallation of every patch and application, and
*maybe* end up with a sane system, but a reformat/clean install followed by
fully updating and reinstalling applications will much more successfully
ensure a sane system.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: Here's the advice from Glen:
:
: Follow the procedures he
: Blank Desktop or Illegal Operations Error Message After You Install
Internet
: Explorer:
: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=kb;en-us;249191
:
: If those procedures do not help, have a look he
: Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer Upgrade in Windows 98:
:
http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html
: or
: http://tinyurl.com/r5ba
:
: Especially this section at the end:
:
: "If you still have boot problems after you reboot, you should use the
command prompt
: to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On the command line type edit
: c:\windows\system.ini.
:
: "Once it is open, change the line shell=explorer.exe to
shell=progman.exe. What you
: are doing here is changing the default shell (that is having
problems) from the
: Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program Manager shell.
:
: "Reboot Windows. It should now successfully boot with no errors into
an empty
: Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | Browse drop down menu
selection to
: browse to c:\program files\internet explorer and launch ie5setup.exe
or ie6setup.exe
: (depending on what is there). Do a custom install and check all the
Bold faced
: options. When the setup program alerts you that these files are
already installed,
: tell it to reinstall all of the files.
:
: "When the Internet Explorer Setup program is done and reboots, hit
the F8 key to
: bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt and boot to the command
prompt. Once
: there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, once it is open, change
the line
: shell=progman.exe back to shell=explorer.exe. Save and exit the file.
You have now
: set the shell back to the original value."
: --
: Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
:
:
: "Mathers" wrote in message
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: I forgot to tell you that the 20bg drive is a scsi drive. What I
did was
: simply unplug the 80gb IDE drive and rebooted. It boots back to the
20 gb
: drive but gets back to my original problem and why I tried
reinstalling. Once
: the machine goes through the boot sequence and begins to load start
up apps,
: I get an "explorer error", and the computer goes no further with
loading. I
: figured I would reinstall to fill into any holes in the system
files. Don't
: know what caused the explorer error but it has been some time since
: restarting my machine. I leave it on constantly and had to reboot
after
: installing an auto update of IE6 SP1 patch or something like that
from
: windows auto update service. Any ideas how to fix the error? Any
further
: suggestions on how to get 98 off the 80gb drive? Thanks for the
help and your
: patients.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: I still want to go back to the question of "Why" you were
installing over the top of the original installation. But we can get to that
later.
:
: In BIOS, make sure that the 20 GB is visible and correctly
detected. Make sure it is the Primary Master. Then look for the Boot Order
item and make sure it reads:
:
: 1. Floppy (or CDROM)
: 2. CDROM (or Floppy)
: 3. HDD0
: 4. No other devices.
:
: You don't want it looking for HDD1 if it can't find a bootable
partition on HDD0.
:
: Try that and tell us what happens.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Mathers" wrote in message
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: Sorry about that. I didn't understand your question before. I
have two
: seperate drives. No partitions. I was attempting to reinstall
over a previous
: version. Drive C was a 20 gb for system files, Drive D was 80
gb for files,
: docs, music, etc.. I set the 80gb as the primary slave when I
installed it a
: few months ago. It put the new os on this 80gb drive and now
boots from this
: drive. I would like it to boot from the 20 gb drive and dump
the os off the
: 80 gb drive. Does this info explain better?
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: You still haven't answered all of my questions. For the sake
of simplicity, we'll call them Old C and New C.
:
: 1. Are these "drives" two partitions on the same physical
hard drive? Or are they actually two different drives? If they are two
different drives, how are they arranged? I assume one is Primary Master.
Which one? The other is what, Secondary Master or Primary Slave?
:
: 2. Are you attempting to install Windows over the top of a
previous installation on Old C? Or did you reformat it?
:
: 3. Why are you reinstalling? What error(s) led you to decide
to reinstall?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Mathers" wrote in
message ...
: Somehow my drive letters were switched and what was the old
D: became the new
: C: and I didn't know it. When I run FDISK, will I lose any
info from the
: drive that I am making inactive? Any problems I should be
aware of? Thanks!
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
:
: I'm having difficulty deciphering your message. Windows
98, whichever one you have booted to, is *always* on C:\ drive. In order for
your machine to boot to that drive, it must be the Active drive. If you have
another Win98 system installed to what is now your D:\ drive, and want that
to be the boot drive, you have to use a Windows Startup floppy boot, run
FDISK, and make that partition Active. Then when you boot to that Windows, it
will be the new C:\ drive.
:
: Why did you think you had to reinstall Windows? What else
is on the current C:\ drive besides the new Windows installation? If there's
nothing else, you can reformat that drive. If there was other stuff, and you
can fix things to boot to the old system, you can then delete the Windows
folder and the Program Files folder (provided you didn't already have a
Program Files folder there.)
:
: Do you actually have two different hard drives, or only
two partitions on one drive?
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Mathers" wrote in
message ...
: How can I uninstall win 98se from a second drive. Had
to reinstall win98 and
: it flip flopped my drive letters and the new os was put
on the wrong drive.
: Now this is the drive it boots up in. Old c drive is
now the new d drive.
: What the hell? Just want it back to booting up in the
origional config.
: Thanks!
:
:
:
:
:

What you contemplate, "pulling over info (you) want to the 80Gb drive =
and formatting (your) old c:\," would be the best thing to do, though =
since you have all that free space, to save time I'd probably just copy =
over the entire contents, putting it all into a folder named E:\OLDWIN. =
You can then peruse the files at your leisure, maybe eventually deleting =
the excess next Christmas or whenever. There would be no big rush.

Actually, though, I would probably use a repartitioning tool like BootIt =
NG to resize the partitions on your 80 GB drive and place a new "C:" =
drive at the beginning of that, then put what remains into two or three =
(or more) partitions inside an Extended Partition. I would then use the =
SCSI drive either for backup (good but not great backup method), or make =
it the Page (Swap) file and TEMP drive. Either way, I would want to =
restrict the C:\ partition for the new installation to 8GB. That allows =
4KB clusters, which is the optimum organization for Windows 98 system =
partitions.

If you want to explore these various methods, I think it best if we =
begin a new thread in this forum. This one's getting rather long in the =
tooth, s.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
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"Mathers" wrote in message =
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ok, I followed all above steps and I'm back up a running. Boots up as =
it=20
should. Now, very few of my apps actually work. I'll open up an app =
and half=20
way through, it tells me there are parameters missing and errors. Any =
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why this happened or how to fix it. With as screwed up as things have =
been,=20
I'm pondering upgrading to XP. Would you reccomend pulling over info I =
want=20
to the 80Gb drive and formmating my old c:\? Will a simple upgrade =
disk to XP=20
be as effective and clean? Thanks again for all the help.
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