Microsoft Security Bulletin MS04-023 Vulnerability in HTML HelpCould Allow Code Execution (840315)

I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.

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David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After all, you =
didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and instead use =
another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a bit of trouble.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
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"David Ross" wrote in message =
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I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site. =20
=20
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David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/ =20
=20
I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that=20
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After all, you didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and instead use another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a bit of trouble.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"David Ross" wrote in message ...
I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.

First of all, I never removed IE. I just never updated or patched
it in the 3+ years since my PC was purchased. I never used it, and
thus I never set any preferences or options for its use.

Second, my using Mozilla is NOT politics. It is simply good sense
in that Mozilla adheres to the W3C specification for HTML 4.01
while IE does not. Thus, Web pages created for general viewing --
not restricted to IE -- are indeed viewed as intended.

Finally, even a government agency -- United States Computer
Emergency Readiness Team operating under the Department of Homeland
Security -- recommends not using IE because of "a number of
significant vulnerabilities in technologies".

If the holder of a valid license for Windows 98SE (purchased with
my PC) cannot obtain necessary security patches without using a
product (IE) known to contain other security problems, then perhaps
politics are indeed appropriate. Perhaps the Kerry-Edwards
administration should reopen the anti-trust case against
Microsoft.

--

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

I rest my case.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"David Ross" wrote in message =
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
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Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After all, =
you didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and instead use =
another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a bit of trouble.
=20
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx
=20
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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"David Ross" wrote in message =
...
I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.
=20
First of all, I never removed IE. I just never updated or patched
it in the 3+ years since my PC was purchased. I never used it, and
thus I never set any preferences or options for its use. =20
=20
Second, my using Mozilla is NOT politics. It is simply good sense
in that Mozilla adheres to the W3C specification for HTML 4.01
while IE does not. Thus, Web pages created for general viewing --
not restricted to IE -- are indeed viewed as intended. =20
=20
Finally, even a government agency -- United States Computer
Emergency Readiness Team operating under the Department of Homeland
Security -- recommends not using IE because of "a number of
significant vulnerabilities in technologies". =20
=20
If the holder of a valid license for Windows 98SE (purchased with
my PC) cannot obtain necessary security patches without using a
product (IE) known to contain other security problems, then perhaps
politics are indeed appropriate. Perhaps the Kerry-Edwards
administration should reopen the anti-trust case against
Microsoft. =20
=20
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=20
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/ =20
=20
I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that=20
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

WHY DO YOU DO THIS?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I rest my case.


"David Ross" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After all,
you didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and
instead use another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a bit
of trouble.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"David Ross" wrote in message
...
I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.

First of all, I never removed IE. I just never updated or patched
it in the 3+ years since my PC was purchased. I never used it, and
thus I never set any preferences or options for its use.

Second, my using Mozilla is NOT politics. It is simply good sense
in that Mozilla adheres to the W3C specification for HTML 4.01
while IE does not. Thus, Web pages created for general viewing --
not restricted to IE -- are indeed viewed as intended.

Finally, even a government agency -- United States Computer
Emergency Readiness Team operating under the Department of Homeland
Security -- recommends not using IE because of "a number of
significant vulnerabilities in technologies".

If the holder of a valid license for Windows 98SE (purchased with
my PC) cannot obtain necessary security patches without using a
product (IE) known to contain other security problems, then perhaps
politics are indeed appropriate. Perhaps the Kerry-Edwards
administration should reopen the anti-trust case against
Microsoft.

--

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

Why do I do what? Rest my case? Because my case is that the man's =
principles (or politics) are getting in the way of his performing a =
pragmatic chore. He responds that it *isn't* politics, but then proceeds =
to outline primarily political reasons for the manner in which he =
maintains (or fails to maintain) his computer. He is so blinded by his =
politics that he *refuses* to accept the role of Internet Explorer as a =
core function of Windows as distinct from its strictly internet browser =
function, thereby totally and willfully defying reality. If that isn't =
politics, I don't know what it is (unless it be religion?) It certainly =
isn't common sense.

Regardless of whether you ever use IE as a browser, it *is* a core =
application of Windows and always has been, since mid-June of 1998. To =
argue with this FACT is plain foolishness. If the man doesn't want to =
run Windows, including all of its core components, or doesn't want to =
keep it up to date, for whatever reason, that's his prerogative. But to =
bitch because Microsoft builds it's customer interface system based upon =
Internet Explorer... Just boggles the mind.

Like any other purist, or utopian, or those of similar ilk, he may get =
to heaven, but before getting there his life will be one of hunger, cold =
and loneliness--and his death will be, at best, that of a martyr (and =
he'll probably take a lot of innocent people with him.)=20

Oh, and if you truly wish me to continue this particular discussion, =
STOP SHOUTING!

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"Roger Fink" wrote in message =
...
=20
WHY DO YOU DO THIS?
=20
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I rest my case.


"David Ross" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After =
all,
you didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and
instead use another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a =
bit
of trouble.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"David Ross" wrote in message
...
I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.

First of all, I never removed IE. I just never updated or patched
it in the 3+ years since my PC was purchased. I never used it, and
thus I never set any preferences or options for its use.

Second, my using Mozilla is NOT politics. It is simply good sense
in that Mozilla adheres to the W3C specification for HTML 4.01
while IE does not. Thus, Web pages created for general viewing --
not restricted to IE -- are indeed viewed as intended.

Finally, even a government agency -- United States Computer
Emergency Readiness Team operating under the Department of Homeland
Security -- recommends not using IE because of "a number of
significant vulnerabilities in technologies".

If the holder of a valid license for Windows 98SE (purchased with
my PC) cannot obtain necessary security patches without using a
product (IE) known to contain other security problems, then perhaps
politics are indeed appropriate. Perhaps the Kerry-Edwards
administration should reopen the anti-trust case against
Microsoft.

--

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.
=20

the lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Why do I do what? Rest my case? Because my case is that the man's
principles (or politics) are getting in the way of his performing a
pragmatic chore. He responds that it *isn't* politics, but then
proceeds to outline primarily political reasons for the manner in
which he maintains (or fails to maintain) his computer. He is so
blinded by his politics that he *refuses* to accept the role of
Internet Explorer as a core function of Windows as distinct from its
strictly internet browser function, thereby totally and willfully
defying reality. If that isn't politics, I don't know what it is
(unless it be religion?) It certainly isn't common sense.

Regardless of whether you ever use IE as a browser, it *is* a core
application of Windows and always has been, since mid-June of 1998.
To argue with this FACT is plain foolishness. If the man doesn't want
to run Windows, including all of its core components, or doesn't want
to keep it up to date, for whatever reason, that's his prerogative.
But to bitch because Microsoft builds it's customer interface system
based upon Internet Explorer... Just boggles the mind.

Like any other purist, or utopian, or those of similar ilk, he may
get to heaven, but before getting there his life will be one of
hunger, cold and loneliness--and his death will be, at best, that of
a martyr (and he'll probably take a lot of innocent people with him.)

Oh, and if you truly wish me to continue this particular discussion,
STOP SHOUTING!


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...

WHY DO YOU DO THIS?

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I rest my case.


"David Ross" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Ummm... I think the answer is rather obvious, don't you? After
all,
you didn't need to *remove* IE in order to stop using it and
instead use another. I'm afraid your politics have caused you a
bit
of trouble.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"David Ross" wrote in message
...
I have Windows 98SE, but I no longer have a functioning IE. How
can I get the patch for repairing this vulnerability? Non-IE
browsers display a blank page when attempting to access the
indicated patch site.

First of all, I never removed IE. I just never updated or patched
it in the 3+ years since my PC was purchased. I never used it, and
thus I never set any preferences or options for its use.

Second, my using Mozilla is NOT politics. It is simply good sense
in that Mozilla adheres to the W3C specification for HTML 4.01
while IE does not. Thus, Web pages created for general viewing --
not restricted to IE -- are indeed viewed as intended.

Finally, even a government agency -- United States Computer
Emergency Readiness Team operating under the Department of Homeland
Security -- recommends not using IE because of "a number of
significant vulnerabilities in technologies".

If the holder of a valid license for Windows 98SE (purchased with
my PC) cannot obtain necessary security patches without using a
product (IE) known to contain other security problems, then perhaps
politics are indeed appropriate. Perhaps the Kerry-Edwards
administration should reopen the anti-trust case against
Microsoft.

--

David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards. See http://www.mozilla.org/.

Sorry, I thought you asked a question and desired an answer. Ta ta, =
Troll.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"Roger Fink" wrote in message =
...
the lady doth protest too much, methinks.
=20

My mistake. Checked your history here. You don't even rate as a decent =
troll. Just a sad and probably misled, gullible (dare I say child?)

My apologies to the true Trolls of the world.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message =
...
Sorry, I thought you asked a question and desired an answer. Ta ta, =
Troll.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x
=20
"Roger Fink" wrote in message =
...
the lady doth protest too much, methinks.
=20

Don't you ever get tired of having having to apologize to every third or
fourth poster? As the gentleman's response to your rant makes clear, if
you'd taken the time to more than scan it, it's not always necessary to
assume the worst in people.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
My mistake. Checked your history here. You don't even rate as a
decent troll. Just a sad and probably misled, gullible (dare I say
child?)

My apologies to the true Trolls of the world.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I thought you asked a question and desired an answer. Ta ta,
Troll.


"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
the lady doth protest too much, methinks.