After June?

"PCR" wrote in message
...
I HOPE you keep those computers in separate bedrooms! But, right, I THOUGHT
I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Don/Gen" wrote in message
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| PCR,
|
| I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a
| back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can
| always be used :-)
|
| Don
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker &
| firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it
| crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive
| today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a
peep
| out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal
| Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine
now.
|
| JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it
| well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the
| monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know
is
| good.
|
| Would you like my list of full system backup apps?
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Elizabeth" wrote in message
| ...
| | I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.
| |
| | After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
| | updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
| | need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?
| |
| | Beth
|
|

I heard a 3.11 WFW thrashing about a little while back ...so 98 should be
good for another 10+ years :

| I heard a 3.11 WFW thrashing about a little while back ...so 98 should be
| good for another 10+ years :

Yow! Good, goooood! Maybe we are immortal, then!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Haggis" wrote in message ...
|
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| I HOPE you keep those computers in separate bedrooms! But, right, I THOUGHT
| I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first!
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Don/Gen" wrote in message
| ...
| | PCR,
| |
| | I have a Win95 with AVG Free on board that I keep up to date and use as a
| | back-up to my Win98se! If all else fails, my wife's laptop with XP can
| | always be used :-)
| |
| | Don
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker &
| | firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it
| | crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive
| | today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a
| peep
| | out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal
| | Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine
| now.
| |
| | JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it
| | well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the
| | monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know
| is
| | good.
| |
| | Would you like my list of full system backup apps?
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "Elizabeth" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.
| | |
| | | After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
| | | updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
| | | need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?
| | |
| | | Beth
| |
| |
|
| I heard a 3.11 WFW thrashing about a little while back ...so 98 should be
| good for another 10+ years :
|
|

will the low end version of Vista run on my low end pc?

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
The cycle has been greatly stretched over the last few years. There was a
new desktop/workstation OS release coming out almost every year between 95
and 2001, with only two service packs since then (though there's been lots
of activity on the server side.) My guess is that Vista *might* debut this
year, but more likely next. Just based upon history, I probably wouldn't
want it on a production machine before ~2008/09. However, the paradigm may
be changing, and Vista may solve enough of the security issues that are
inherent in WinXP to make it more attractive at an earlier date. Hard for
me
to say, since I've not been able to participate in betas (lack of time and
hardware.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Jonny" wrote in message
...
Been watching MS's behavior since 95. The pattern seems to be release
the
new OS to the public market. Followed by bug fixes over a 1-2 year
period
in general. Jump on the new OS bandwagon around the end of that period
seems smartest thing to do, in my opinion. Especially if a service
pack(s)
which changes some of the base OS system files is involved.
--
Jonny
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Windows 98 is already a bit crippled when it comes to protective
applications -- the ones that keep you safe while surfing the
internet.
That
situation is going to get worse as time goes by, and I expect that by
sometime next year very few modern protective applications will
support
Win9x systems at all. This is important because the internet and the
associated applications (functional or protective) are where the major
advancements in technology are occurring on a daily or weekly basis,
and
as
they outgrow Win9x, you will get less functionality and almost *no*
decent
safety for that platform.

The only real effect the June date has is that any further security
issues
that are subsequently discovered, whether in Windows Media Player,
Internet
Explorer, or in the core operating files, will not be fixed. But the
obsolescence of Win9x is already a fact, one that is only going to get
worse
as the months pass. I strongly recommend that 9x users cease to spend
*any*
more money on their systems and instead buy a new one. And, no, I
would
not
recommend waiting until Windows Vista is ready for market. I don't
think
that's going to be soon enough. Get a good machine now and then
upgrade
to
Vista if and when it becomes attractive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
I'm sorry if this has been brought up before, which I'm sure it has.

After June, when Microsoft stops supporting Win98 with security
updates, will I need to stop using Win98 with the Internet? Will I
need a new operating system? Is there any recourse?

Beth

My guess: No. But I have no idea what you mean by "low end version", and
"low end PC" is a relative term. I assume that if the system will run XP
more or less decently, it should be OK with Vista, too. But as I said, I
haven't been able to play with it. I loaded it once on my only "high end"
system, a 2GHz w/ 2GB RAM, clocked back to 133 MHz FSB from 166, and it
seemed to work OK, but that was a very early version of Vista and I didn't
get much time on it before I broke that mobo. Been stuck with very low-end
hardware since then.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"AlmostBob" wrote in message
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will the low end version of Vista run on my low end pc?

I've been fine for years just backing up my files. I have all the
installation disks for my programs and for Windows. I've had to use
them twice, and it really wasn't too awful, just a pain in the neck .
Thanks.

Beth

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:33:23 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

If you are careful with your Internet use &/or get a good virus checker & firewall, you will be fine, I think, to stick with Win98 until the day it crumbles to dust. Some have reportedly seen EVEN Win95 people still alive today! One/two may even have posted to this NG. I STILL haven't heard a peep out of McAfee that a virus has ever tried to infiltrate me. Kerio Personal Firewall has spoken up plenty, but I think I've got it's rules set fine now.

JUST, when all is going well, do make one full system backup, & protect it well. After that, keep another backup on a monthly basis. If ever the monthly one should become flawed or infected, go to the one that you know is good.

Would you like my list of full system backup apps?

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die first!

My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does
everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd
like to be about Windows 98.

Beth

I have to admit, I love old goodies, but I just can't go back to Win 3.1,
and those damn 8.3 filenames for everything. (I can accept that in DOS,
but that's about it). So I guess I have moved slightly forward. :-)

But I'm still stickin with WMP 6.4. You can have WMP 7 and 9.
(Thanks, but no thanks)!

Elizabeth wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die
first!

My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does
everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd
like to be about Windows 98.

Beth

If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications
demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just fine.
But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are expected
of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing,
etc. -- using such a dinosaur.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die
first!

My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does
everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd
like to be about Windows 98.

Beth

I do all that - and more, with Win98SE. There is NO problem.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications
demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just fine.
But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are expected
of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing,
etc. -- using such a dinosaur.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot die
first!

My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does
everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd
like to be about Windows 98.

Beth

we all do, NOW, but I think that GST is saying that after june without
support, it will become more and more unsafe, and harder to repair when you
do get bombed

--
-
Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
spybot http://security.kolla.de
AVG free antivirus http://www.grisoft.com
Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
use
Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
_
"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I do all that - and more, with Win98SE. There is NO problem.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
If you have no need for modern internet browsing, and your applications
demands are minimal, Windows 3.1, 95, and/or 98/98SE/ME will do just
fine.
But I certainly wouldn't want to do the typically things that are
expected
of a modern computer -- internet browsing, online banking, purchasing,
etc. -- using such a dinosaur.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Elizabeth" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:37:44 -0500, "PCR" wrote:

I THOUGHT I heard Win95 still lives today! Good! Win98 surely cannot
die
first!

My sister-in-law and brother-in-law still use Windows 3.1! It does
everything they need, so they never switched, which is exactly how I'd
like to be about Windows 98.

Beth