Is it time to buy a new computer?

"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.) I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant, cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you possibly
get anything done when wearing it?

And yes, Gary, I did do a clean boot and followed the instructions at
auhma.org site (lots of info there). I've learned alot of stuff from
all of you - thanks.

You're welcome, Mary.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?

And yes, Gary, I did do a clean boot and followed the instructions at
auhma.org site (lots of info there). I've learned alot of stuff from
all of you - thanks.

You're welcome, Mary.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?

And yes, Gary, I did do a clean boot and followed the instructions at
auhma.org site (lots of info there). I've learned alot of stuff from
all of you - thanks.

You're welcome, Mary.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
I find it better to drop OSA9 from the startup group. And, if its
running,
kill findfast in the control panel under its own icon.

The user should run IE for internet address, any safe known website is
okay.
Then check if mdm.exe is running via ctrl-alt-del. This comes from the
Office 2k install. You can prevent mdm.exe from running in IE's internet
options/advanced, select disable script debugging.
Also check for 0 byte files in the windows folder, there may be a
boatload.
That will slow the PC to a crawl.

There may be a lot of 0 byte files in the windows folder, but you shouldn't
tell anyone to simply delete them! You should be more specific as to the
file names which are safe to be deleted. There may be some applications
which create 0 byte files in the windows folder which may cause problems if
they are simply deleted. So, unless you are sure that any 0 byte file is no
longer required by windows or any other application, I wouldn't delete any
of them!

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
I find it better to drop OSA9 from the startup group. And, if its
running,
kill findfast in the control panel under its own icon.

The user should run IE for internet address, any safe known website is
okay.
Then check if mdm.exe is running via ctrl-alt-del. This comes from the
Office 2k install. You can prevent mdm.exe from running in IE's internet
options/advanced, select disable script debugging.
Also check for 0 byte files in the windows folder, there may be a
boatload.
That will slow the PC to a crawl.

There may be a lot of 0 byte files in the windows folder, but you shouldn't
tell anyone to simply delete them! You should be more specific as to the
file names which are safe to be deleted. There may be some applications
which create 0 byte files in the windows folder which may cause problems if
they are simply deleted. So, unless you are sure that any 0 byte file is no
longer required by windows or any other application, I wouldn't delete any
of them!

If I thought you were anything but a troll, I'd go ahead and answer here. As it
is, these topics have been well-discussed over the years and everything I say
can be easily documented. I've already slammed you down for another stupid
statement in this thread, and you haven't come up with a single technically
valid argument in your defense. I doubt it will be any different here. So why
bother? You aren't worth the effort.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"chris" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?

If I thought you were anything but a troll, I'd go ahead and answer here. As it
is, these topics have been well-discussed over the years and everything I say
can be easily documented. I've already slammed you down for another stupid
statement in this thread, and you haven't come up with a single technically
valid argument in your defense. I doubt it will be any different here. So why
bother? You aren't worth the effort.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"chris" wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
"Mary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I followed Glen's suggestion and disabled McAfee (and stayed offline!)
and ran Word, Excel and some other programs. Lo and behold my computer
ran MUCH better - faster and with no hesitation. Mr. Martel was right
- with McAfee running, it's like driving a car with both feet on the
brake. Seems like the people at McAfee would be sensitive to the speed
issue. I think when my McAfee subscription runs out, I will check out
alternate AV software. Although all AV software is going to result in
computer slowdown, yes?

Thought so!

Why would you wait until the McAfee sub runs out? I'd want to cut my
losses
immediately. No, many other AV solutions do *not* cause this kind of
problem,
particularly not the ones we've recommended (AVAST, AVG and ETrust). Avoid
McAfee, & Norton (worst offenders, though there are others almost as bad.)
I'd
like to be able to say that the main problem is that you were running a
huge
modern *suite* of protective apps that was not intended, really, to run
very
well on obsolete systems like Windows 98, but that's only part of the
story--the
fact is that these apps from Norton and McAfee have been horrible, whether
on
Win98 or WinXP, for years. My own favoriate analogy is to a giant,
cast-iron
chastity belt that covers your entire body--Safe, yes, but how can you
possibly
get anything done when wearing it?


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?

"chris" wrote:


You are really out to lunch my friend!

What does a modern suite of anti-virus software on Windows 98 have to do
with performance? If that same software was running on Windows XP on the
same system, it would most certainly perform just as poorly! Which proves
again you don't know what you're talking about.

I run NAV on my system without any serious slowdown on my Windows 98 based
systems....so tell me, what would be the reasons my systems are slowing down
less drastically then Mary's system?



It is apparent that you are incapable of distinguishing between
efficient well designed applications and bloated crapware written by
incompetent bungling nicompoops who can't even figure out how to
uninstall their own creations, as evidenced by the existence of
RNAV2003.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm