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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
I seem to be accumulating an excessive number of Restore
points. My Restore space was flushed and its limit set to 200 MB about 7 months ago and it's already using 658 MB of disk space containing 283 files. During the past 5 months it seems to be growing at a little over 100 MB per month. I've not set a single Restore point myself. Does Windows automatically set Restore points every time there's an automated Windows ScanDisk run during Boot-up because of an improper prior shutdown (which I do have a bit too frequently)? Why does it Not limit the number of stored Restore points in accordance with the disk space limit set (200 MB) in its System Performance settings? (ControlPanel: System Performance FileSystem HardDisk) -- randau Oregon, USA I read and post from the Google Groups web site using a Spam collecting email address that I don't use for anything else. So if someone wants to contact me, please cleanup and use the Spam resistant Email address below. randau2...(at)...proaxis.com |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
If SR is exceeding the space allocated for it, it's unlikely that it's going
to work when you need it, as it indicates that the control files are broken in some way - I would suggest a reset of SR should cure the problem. SR by default creates a System Restore point (of about 8-12MB) every 10 hours of computer up-time, or every 24hours real-time - which explains the expansion, but not the corruption. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "randau" wrote in message oups.com... I seem to be accumulating an excessive number of Restore points. My Restore space was flushed and its limit set to 200 MB about 7 months ago and it's already using 658 MB of disk space containing 283 files. During the past 5 months it seems to be growing at a little over 100 MB per month. I've not set a single Restore point myself. Does Windows automatically set Restore points every time there's an automated Windows ScanDisk run during Boot-up because of an improper prior shutdown (which I do have a bit too frequently)? Why does it Not limit the number of stored Restore points in accordance with the disk space limit set (200 MB) in its System Performance settings? (ControlPanel: System Performance FileSystem HardDisk) -- randau Oregon, USA I read and post from the Google Groups web site using a Spam collecting email address that I don't use for anything else. So if someone wants to contact me, please cleanup and use the Spam resistant Email address below. randau2...(at)...proaxis.com |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
Does Windows automatically set Restore points every time
there's an automated Windows ScanDisk run during Boot-up because of an improper prior shutdown (which I do have a bit too frequently)? No. Why does it Not limit the number of stored Restore points in accordance with the disk space limit set (200 MB) in its System Performance settings? Because it's not working properly. It does this from time to time. Disable then re-enable it, rebooting not a moment later than the system tells you to in the process of doing so. That should fix it. (ControlPanel: System Performance FileSystem Troubleshooting) Shane |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
"randau" wrote:
I seem to be accumulating an excessive number of Restore points. My Restore space was flushed and its limit set to 200 MB about 7 months ago and it's already using 658 MB of disk space containing 283 files. During the past 5 months it seems to be growing at a little over 100 MB per month. I've not set a single Restore point myself. Does Windows automatically set Restore points every time there's an automated Windows ScanDisk run during Boot-up because of an improper prior shutdown (which I do have a bit too frequently)? Why does it Not limit the number of stored Restore points in accordance with the disk space limit set (200 MB) in its System Performance settings? (ControlPanel: System Performance FileSystem HardDisk) If System Restore is working properly then it should automatically conform to the allocated amount of disk space by deleting older restore points as new ones are created. However I do not consider 200 mb to be an adequate disk space allowance for System Restore. In my opinion you should allocate about 800 mb of disk space for System Restore under typical usage situations, and should increase this somewhat if you are in the habit of regularly installing and uninstalling large application programs such as Microsoft Office or Visual Studio. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
Hello, Noel!
You wrote on Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:33:53 -0000: NP If SR is exceeding the space allocated for it, it's unlikely that it's NP going to work when you need it, as it indicates that the control files NP are broken in some way - I would suggest a reset of SR should cure the NP problem. SR by default creates a System Restore point (of about 8-12MB) NP every 10 hours of computer up-time, or every 24hours real-time - which NP explains the expansion, but not the corruption. PMFJI.. so does this mean that the restore points that I have created manually (with labels/names), say about a month ago, would eventually get replaced/erased as each 10hr or 24hr cycle progresses? |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
Ogg wrote:
PMFJI.. so does this mean that the restore points that I have created manually (with labels/names), say about a month ago, would eventually get replaced/erased as each 10hr or 24hr cycle progresses? Yes. FIFO, first in first out applies with the state manager discarding older checkpoints however crated together with the associated archived files so as to make room for new checkpoints and archived files. You must remember that system restore is not a replacement for a proper backup regime, simply a mechanism that allows a system to be rolled back a few days or perhaps a week or two. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006] |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
Noel, in an earlier thread on Aug 21 2005 you wrote:
It's not unusual (with modern hard drive sizes) to be unable to set an SR point between 200 and 400MB - I've slightly modified my advice in some messages to say 'one notch above the minimum'. The reason is that the default setting is 12% of the C:\ drive size, (your C: drive is 20GB), and there are eight (IIRC) notches - in your case that would mean that each notch is worth 2200/8 = 275MB, so the first notch would be at 475MB. Such a setting would be fine - and less likely to cause problems when doing large installs. In reexamining what you said then, I don't now understand your numbers. There are more than 8 notches on the disk space use slider. There are 11 notches and I just moved the pointer to the 4th notch indicating 842 Mb to see if it will take control there. Wouldn't 12% of my 20 Gb (20,480 Mb) disk be 2,457 Mb or 2.4 Gb? If so, does that imply that it won't control for less than 2.4 Gb of Restore space? If so, why wouldn't they just default to that control setting and not offer the smaller notch settings? -- randau |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
Ron Martell wrote:
However I do not consider 200 mb to be an adequate disk space allowance for System Restore. In my opinion you should allocate about 800 mb of disk space for System Restore under typical usage situations, and should increase this somewhat if you are in the habit of regularly installing and uninstalling large application programs such as Microsoft Office or Visual Studio. Ok, I moved the Restore disk space allowance pointer to the 4th notch which indicates 842 Mb. I'll wait and see if it controls there. -- randau |
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Acquired 5 Gigabytes of Restore Points Over Several Years
There are 11 notches and I just moved the
pointer to the 4th notch indicating 842 Mb to see if it will take control there. But have you reset system restore? If not then you haven't rebuilt the control files and the size of the archive will continue to grow regardless of the space you have allocated to it. There are 11 notches. That is as it should be with the first being 200MB and the eleventh 12% of the size of the partition containing the windows folder with the other nine being equally spaced between those two extremes. If so, does that imply that it won't control for less than 2.4 Gb of Restore space? The space used will be up to the space allocated be it 200MB or 2.4GB but not until you reset system restore and rebuild the control files. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows [2001-2006] randau wrote: In reexamining what you said then, I don't now understand your numbers. There are more than 8 notches on the disk space use slider. There are 11 notches and I just moved the pointer to the 4th notch indicating 842 Mb to see if it will take control there. Wouldn't 12% of my 20 Gb (20,480 Mb) disk be 2,457 Mb or 2.4 Gb? If so, does that imply that it won't control for less than 2.4 Gb of Restore space? If so, why wouldn't they just default to that control setting and not offer the smaller notch settings? |
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