Win'98SE & IE 6

You will comply PCR because we need more testers. LOL, it is completely
your decision of course. :

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people using
| Win98SE had some problems with IE 6.

Don't try to drag me into this! I'm not going through all those tests
again!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| LOL!!!
|
| They said "resistance is futile", but they were wrong! As for me,
I'm
| QUITE CONTENT with IE 5.5 SP2.
|
| There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people using
| Win98SE had some problems with IE 6. I don't know if that is the
case -
| most people here say it works great. So - if you want the newest
model, go
| for it!
|
| But as for me, (and just as an aside), I'm still QUITE CONTENT with
WMP 6.4
| too (just for the record) So there! LOL.
|
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| "Bill in Co" is a regular here in this NG and, apparently, doesn't
like IE
| 6,
| s.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
| "Eugene Fridman" wrote in message
| ...
| Thank you very much for the reply.
|
| (And don't believe a word of what Colorado says! eg)
|
| Please pardon my ignorance, but what the above was supposed to
mean?
|
| TIA, Eugene
| =================================================
| "PA Bear" wrote in message
| ...
| MS considers IE6 SP1 to be a Critical Update:
http://snipurl.com/4bgz.
| The
| author of that post, Anthony Grey, heads up the IE/OE sustained
| engineering
| team at Microsoft.
|
| Upgrading will necessitate two (2) visits to Windows Update: One
to
| install
| IE6 SP1 (and reboot), then another to install post-SP1 updates for
both
| IE
| and Win98. To assure a clean install, your anti-virus application
| should be
| disabled and all other running processes closed before installing
| anything,
| including Windows Updates.
|
| Early versions of IE6 SP1 proved troublesome for a small minority
of
| Win98
| users but such bugs have been addressed and trouble us no more.
Don't
| let
| anyone else tell you differently. (And don't believe a word of
what
| Colorado says! eg)
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
|
|
| Eugene Fridman wrote:
| I'm thinking of upgrading Internet Explorer 5.50 to 6 SP1 on my
Win
| '98SE
| system.
|
| Are there any reasons not to?
|
| Please share your experience.
|
| TIA, Eugene
|
|

Bill, what do you mean by calling PCR a grasshopper?

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Not until I have too. (True security lies within, grasshopper).

PCR wrote:
I leave you in Terhune's hands. I also know Colorado is about to upgrade
to IE6 himself. If you took yours from some 3rd party CD, perhaps try
Windows Update now, to see what it may offer.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PSYCHOPIXIE" wrote in message
...

I had to upgrade my internet explorer from 5 to 6 in order to install a
piece of softwear (IE 6 was included on the cd). I have not noticed any
difference and I hear from my pc whizz friend that 5 is actually quite
good anyway.


PCR Wrote:
There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people
using
Win98SE had some problems with IE 6.

Don't try to drag me into this! I'm not going through all those tests
again!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LOL!!!

They said "resistance is futile", but they were wrong! As for me,
I'm
QUITE CONTENT with IE 5.5 SP2.

There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people
using
Win98SE had some problems with IE 6. I don't know if that is the
case -
most people here say it works great. So - if you want the newest
model,
go for it!

But as for me, (and just as an aside), I'm still QUITE CONTENT with
WMP
6.4
too (just for the record) So there! LOL.


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
"Bill in Co" is a regular here in this NG and, apparently, doesn't
like IE
6,
s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Eugene Fridman" wrote in message
...
Thank you very much for the reply.

(And don't believe a word of what Colorado says! eg)

Please pardon my ignorance, but what the above was supposed to mean?

TIA, Eugene
=================================================
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
MS considers IE6 SP1 to be a Critical Update:
http://snipurl.com/4bgz.
The
author of that post, Anthony Grey, heads up the IE/OE sustained
engineering
team at Microsoft.

Upgrading will necessitate two (2) visits to Windows Update: One to
install
IE6 SP1 (and reboot), then another to install post-SP1 updates for
both
IE
and Win98. To assure a clean install, your anti-virus application
should be
disabled and all other running processes closed before installing
anything,
including Windows Updates.

Early versions of IE6 SP1 proved troublesome for a small minority of
Win98
users but such bugs have been addressed and trouble us no more.
Don't
let
anyone else tell you differently. (And don't believe a word of what
Colorado says! eg)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)


Eugene Fridman wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading Internet Explorer 5.50 to 6 SP1 on my Win
'98SE
system.

Are there any reasons not to?

Please share your experience.

TIA, Eugene




--
PSYCHOPIXIE

I'm not saying anything about who I am. I'm
merely pointing out that IE 6.0 has a terrible
record for security that's only getting worse
if you do any sort of checking into its history.
If you do so, you will also note that certain
exploits are not getting dealt with in any
sort of promptness, and that users are
regularly being asked to disable scripting
temporarily.

This might be due to IE having fundamental
design flaws that cannot be fixed without
disabling many if not all of the "features"
that Microsoft has been adding into IE
as a selling point for Web site developers,
but which have also been creating additional
points of exploit.

Case in point -- bring up Google, click on
News, and then search on "IE". Nothing but
bad news, especially today.

IE is hopelessly vulnerable and I think it
might be prudent for all PC users to avoid
using it completely.

But I'm just some anonymous guy on the
Internet, so you should Google a little bit
as I suggested before taking my word -- or
anyone else's -- on faith.

Hope this clarifies.

-BC

I think that day must come for almost all of us. sigh

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I know the day will come when we have to. Sigh.

Dan wrote:
. . . and you're considering someday switching to XP -- should I say the
horror -- : LOL

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LOL!!!

They said "resistance is futile", but they were wrong! As for me,
I'm
QUITE CONTENT with IE 5.5 SP2.

There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people using
Win98SE had some problems with IE 6. I don't know if that is the
case -
most people here say it works great. So - if you want the newest
model,
go
for it!

But as for me, (and just as an aside), I'm still QUITE CONTENT with WMP
6.4
too (just for the record) So there! LOL.


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
"Bill in Co" is a regular here in this NG and, apparently, doesn't
like
IE
6, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Eugene Fridman" wrote in message
...
Thank you very much for the reply.

(And don't believe a word of what Colorado says! eg)

Please pardon my ignorance, but what the above was supposed to mean?

TIA, Eugene
=================================================
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
MS considers IE6 SP1 to be a Critical Update:
http://snipurl.com/4bgz.
The
author of that post, Anthony Grey, heads up the IE/OE sustained
engineering team at Microsoft.

Upgrading will necessitate two (2) visits to Windows Update: One to
install IE6 SP1 (and reboot), then another to install post-SP1
updates
for both IE and Win98. To assure a clean install, your anti-virus
application should be disabled and all other running processes
closed
before installing anything, including Windows Updates.

Early versions of IE6 SP1 proved troublesome for a small minority of
Win98
users but such bugs have been addressed and trouble us no more.
Don't
let
anyone else tell you differently. (And don't believe a word of what
Colorado says! eg)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)


Eugene Fridman wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading Internet Explorer 5.50 to 6 SP1 on my Win
'98SE
system.

Are there any reasons not to?

Please share your experience.

TIA, Eugene

I heard hackers even are likely to target dial-up Bill and it seems to me
that you are playing with fire by only having IE 5.5.

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Well, at least I'm on a dial up, so I have a little more time to pick up
on
it!

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Yeah, but when you're crossing busy streets, you are able to see the
risks
and
dodge them (else you wouldn't be here.) The problem with Windows
Security
vulnerabilities is that you can't see what's about to hit you until it
already
has.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
What do you think? (I still cross busy streets too) :-)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
So you are willing to leave security holes unpatched?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
LOL!!!

They said "resistance is futile", but they were wrong! As for me,
I'm
QUITE CONTENT with IE 5.5 SP2.

There have been some rumors (not created by me) that some people
using
Win98SE had some problems with IE 6. I don't know if that is the
case -
most people here say it works great. So - if you want the newest
model,
go for it!

But as for me, (and just as an aside), I'm still QUITE CONTENT with
WMP
6.4
too (just for the record) So there! LOL.


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
"Bill in Co" is a regular here in this NG and, apparently, doesn't
like IE
6, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Eugene Fridman" wrote in message
...
Thank you very much for the reply.

(And don't believe a word of what Colorado says! eg)

Please pardon my ignorance, but what the above was supposed to
mean?

TIA, Eugene
=================================================
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
MS considers IE6 SP1 to be a Critical Update:
http://snipurl.com/4bgz.
The author of that post, Anthony Grey, heads up the IE/OE
sustained
engineering team at Microsoft.

Upgrading will necessitate two (2) visits to Windows Update: One
to
install IE6 SP1 (and reboot), then another to install post-SP1
updates
for both IE and Win98. To assure a clean install, your anti-virus
application should be disabled and all other running processes
closed
before installing anything, including Windows Updates.

Early versions of IE6 SP1 proved troublesome for a small minority
of
Win98 users but such bugs have been addressed and trouble us no
more.
Don't let anyone else tell you differently. (And don't believe a
word
of what Colorado says! eg)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)


Eugene Fridman wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading Internet Explorer 5.50 to 6 SP1 on my
Win
'98SE system.

Are there any reasons not to?

Please share your experience.

TIA, Eugene

I use Mozilla Firefox which I enjoy and yes I know it may have some
vulnerabilities but they seem to be less than IE. AFAIK, you still need to
use IE to update Microsoft Windows and my mission to get Microsoft to
support 98SE better continues. Thank you for clarifying and I await the
response from others especially Gary Terhune. I still am puzzles as to why
you suggest users to use an older edition of IE even though it has critical
vulnerabilities. Why do you suggest this? It seems it would make the
situation even worse and make it even easier for a hacker to easily attack a
users machine.

"BC" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm not saying anything about who I am. I'm
merely pointing out that IE 6.0 has a terrible
record for security that's only getting worse
if you do any sort of checking into its history.
If you do so, you will also note that certain
exploits are not getting dealt with in any
sort of promptness, and that users are
regularly being asked to disable scripting
temporarily.

This might be due to IE having fundamental
design flaws that cannot be fixed without
disabling many if not all of the "features"
that Microsoft has been adding into IE
as a selling point for Web site developers,
but which have also been creating additional
points of exploit.

Case in point -- bring up Google, click on
News, and then search on "IE". Nothing but
bad news, especially today.

IE is hopelessly vulnerable and I think it
might be prudent for all PC users to avoid
using it completely.

But I'm just some anonymous guy on the
Internet, so you should Google a little bit
as I suggested before taking my word -- or
anyone else's -- on faith.

Hope this clarifies.

-BC

Niggling OT for Dan:

OE ToolsOptionsSendNews Sending FormatPlain TextEncode text
using...

Would you change this from 'Quoted Printable' to 'None', please? Quoted
messages in your replies don't carry the usual and expected indents when
you're using 'Quoted Printable' and many of us find it confusing. (See my
quote of /your/ quote below.) Thanx.
--
~PA Bear


Dan wrote:
Excuse me, Gary Terhune but this BC character puzzles me because his
advice seems contrary to everything I have read. What's the deal
especially since BC is an MVP?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
While it's extremely doubtful that you know a lot, it's certainly obvious
that you can't read.

What part of "I can't find a single statement in your post that is true,"
don't you understand? If you want to defend your statements, that's your
business, not mine.


"BC" wrote in message
oups.com...
What's not true, pray tell? Be warned, though,
that I know an awful lot....

-BC

Where did BC claim he is an MVP, please?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
Excuse me, Gary Terhune but this BC character puzzles me because his
advice seems contrary to everything I have read. What's the deal
especially since BC is an MVP?

....although he does appear to be a Dittohead: http://snipurl.com/bxor eg

I changed my settings. Are they up to your standards Bear? LOL : (All in
good fun)

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
: Niggling OT for Dan:
:
: OE ToolsOptionsSendNews Sending FormatPlain TextEncode text
: using...
:
: Would you change this from 'Quoted Printable' to 'None', please? Quoted
: messages in your replies don't carry the usual and expected indents when
: you're using 'Quoted Printable' and many of us find it confusing. (See my
: quote of /your/ quote below.) Thanx.
: --
: ~PA Bear
:
:
: Dan wrote:
: Excuse me, Gary Terhune but this BC character puzzles me because his
: advice seems contrary to everything I have read. What's the deal
: especially since BC is an MVP?
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: While it's extremely doubtful that you know a lot, it's certainly obvious
: that you can't read.
:
: What part of "I can't find a single statement in your post that is true,"
: don't you understand? If you want to defend your statements, that's your
: business, not mine.
:
:
: "BC" wrote in message
: oups.com...
: What's not true, pray tell? Be warned, though,
: that I know an awful lot....
:
: -BC
: