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I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
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Pop` wrote: wrote: I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. You can do that; or, if hte machines each have an ethernet card, or you want to spend a couple bucks (they're cheap) to outfit them, all you need is a crossover cable between the two computers to network them without a swtich or router even. Easier and likely a lot faster way to get it going. Then there's no need to fiddle with drive associations either; the local and remote drives on each machine, all available. Pop` What?? I consider an ethernet card a network card. --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
To: alt.windows98,microsoft.p
This is NOT a "regular parallel printer cable" you might have hanging around - see: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true (yeah it's on the xp page but 98 or xp = same thing): "To contact Parallel Technologies to order Direct Cable Connection cables" Within the United States and Canada: (800) 789-4784 Outside the United States and Canada: (425) 869-1119 etc so if you're trying to avoid spending $$ - that's not an option. How big are the files - how about restore them to floppy on laptop? Bobb ================================================ wrote in message ups.com... Pop` wrote: wrote: I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. You can do that; or, if hte machines each have an ethernet card, or you want to spend a couple bucks (they're cheap) to outfit them, all you need is a crossover cable between the two computers to network them without a swtich or router even. Easier and likely a lot faster way to get it going. Then there's no need to fiddle with drive associations either; the local and remote drives on each machine, all available. Pop` What?? I consider an ethernet card a network card. --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
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Pop` wrote: wrote: I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. You can do that; or, if hte machines each have an ethernet card, or you want to spend a couple bucks (they're cheap) to outfit them, all you need is a crossover cable between the two computers to network them without a swtich or router even. Easier and likely a lot faster way to get it going. Then there's no need to fiddle with drive associations either; the local and remote drives on each machine, all available. Pop` I have a similar problem to this guy. I tried the direct connect and had nothing but problems as easy as it sounds. I tried hooking up a stand alone harddrive to the USB 1. Windows98 first version can read the drive but it doesn't recognize the driver under dos or windows 98 first edition to copy file by any method. I was going to buy an ethernet card for my pcmia slot but it is so special (not standard) for my old IBM thinkpad 385 that they are almost impossible to get and very expensive. Could I get a stand alone ethernet card and hook it to an RS232 or parallel port or risky USB1 port and use the internet to transfer data to my other computer as a friend suggested or will I likely meet failure? --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
To: alt.windows98,microsoft.p
Pop` wrote: wrote: I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. You can do that; or, if hte machines each have an ethernet card, or you want to spend a couple bucks (they're cheap) to outfit them, all you need is a crossover cable between the two computers to network them without a swtich or router even. Easier and likely a lot faster way to get it going. Then there's no need to fiddle with drive associations either; the local and remote drives on each machine, all available. Pop` I have lots of cross over cables but where does the ethernet card hook to on an old laptop? What are the connection options that will work? Also what do you have to do to get a file tranfered from one computer to the other using this method? --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
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You said that it's special ... Does this thinkpad have a PCMCIA slot ? If so lots of options If not ... what makes it "special" ? "enquiring minds" wrote in message ... Pop` wrote: wrote: I need to network my laptop to my desktop so the laptop sees a virtual drive letter that's actually a directory on the desktop. The laptop is an older PIII with Serial, parallel, USB 1.1 - no ethernet. Windows has "direct cable connection" for serial/parallel, but Mircrosoft says "Before you can transfer files from the host to the guest computer, the files must be in a shared directory,..." (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/arc...mspx?mfr=true). The desktop is a newer Athlon 1.0Ghz with XP Pro. The laptop is a PIII 500mhz with 98SE. The laptops serial port is an EIA232-E, 16550 compatible, 9-pin D; the parallel port is IEEE P1284-A, EPP, and ECP compatible. Which connection would be faster (serial/parallel) - an article on Wiipedia says asynchronous RS232 is actually faster than parallel at higher CPU clock speeds due to "skew" caused by the parallel cable. I'll probably just get a NULL serial cable, because I expect it to be cheaper, and I won't be needing it again - if this will work. The reason I need this is that files were accidently deleted from the laptop via DOS. The file recovery software can see them, and it asks for a drive/directory to save the restored files in - so I need a virtual drive letter - the desktop computer. I don't want to save the restored files locally first, because that could corrupt the other deleted files. (I don't want to buy a network card for the laptop, because I don't want to install software for it...) Any help appreciated. You can do that; or, if hte machines each have an ethernet card, or you want to spend a couple bucks (they're cheap) to outfit them, all you need is a crossover cable between the two computers to network them without a swtich or router even. Easier and likely a lot faster way to get it going. Then there's no need to fiddle with drive associations either; the local and remote drives on each machine, all available. Pop` I have lots of cross over cables but where does the ethernet card hook to on an old laptop? What are the connection options that will work? Also what do you have to do to get a file tranfered from one computer to the other using this method? --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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- Bobb - wrote: You said that it's special ... Does this thinkpad have a PCMCIA slot ? If so lots of options If not ... what makes it "special" ? I was told that the IBM thinkpad PCMIA slot with a 50 whatver modem was normal but when they brought out the PCMIA ethnernet card only a special one for the IBM Thinkpad will work becuase of a groove in the design of the ibm thinkpad pcmia ethernet card and it will fit or the IMB thinkpad card is wired differently and will work where otherss won't work or fit. Nobody has any ibm ethernet cards in town anymore especially these ones as there are two designs, new and older and my think pad takes the older type Which brings me to my next question how else can I connect easily an ethernet stand alone table model of an ethernet card to my thinkpad? I just looked at the sides and back of the thinkpad and it has a 9 pin (female) monitor outlet, a 25 pin (female) parallel printer outlet, and the last outlet is a male 9 pin with the symbol of something thatlooks like lightening bolts or look like two W's facing each other which to a guy like me thinkks it is trying to say it is a 9 pin parellel communcation port, but I don't know. Of course, I also have the USB1 port that can read but not write to or do file transfer options or anything else. Remember I have win98 1st edition. I should tell you that in a box somewhere I have a PCMIA 50 something modem that I bought and works with my thinkpad but being slow I can only use it for dialup on internet provider and i have highspeed so it is useless but is there a way to use the pcmia 50 something modem to transfer files to another computer. I don't care how slow it is because it is only a 1.2 gig harddive which is enough to be a problem for getting stuff off but not a problem for a slow process. I know I am not using the proper terms but I know you will understand what i am saying because I can't remember the proper words in some cases. a humble thank you for any ideas "enquiring minds" wrote in message I have lots of cross over cables but where does the ethernet card hook to on an old laptop? What are the connection options that will work? Also what do you have to do to get a file tranfered from one computer to the other using this method? --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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No you can't use the modem locally "enquiring minds" wrote in message ... - Bobb - wrote: You said that it's special ... Does this thinkpad have a PCMCIA slot ? If so lots of options If not ... what makes it "special" ? I was told that the IBM thinkpad PCMIA slot with a 50 whatver modem was normal but when they brought out the PCMIA ethnernet card only a special one for the IBM Thinkpad will work becuase of a groove in the design of the ibm thinkpad pcmia ethernet card and it will fit or the IMB thinkpad card is wired differently and will work where otherss won't work or fit. Nobody has any ibm ethernet cards in town anymore especially these ones as there are two designs, new and older and my think pad takes the older type Which brings me to my next question how else can I connect easily an ethernet stand alone table model of an ethernet card to my thinkpad? I just looked at the sides and back of the thinkpad and it has a 9 pin (female) monitor outlet, a 25 pin (female) parallel printer outlet, and the last outlet is a male 9 pin with the symbol of something thatlooks like lightening bolts or look like two W's facing each other which to a guy like me thinkks it is trying to say it is a 9 pin parellel communcation port, but I don't know. Of course, I also have the USB1 port that can read but not write to or do file transfer options or anything else. Remember I have win98 1st edition. I should tell you that in a box somewhere I have a PCMIA 50 something modem that I bought and works with my thinkpad but being slow I can only use it for dialup on internet provider and i have highspeed so it is useless but is there a way to use the pcmia 50 something modem to transfer files to another computer. I don't care how slow it is because it is only a 1.2 gig harddive which is enough to be a problem for getting stuff off but not a problem for a slow process. I know I am not using the proper terms but I know you will understand what i am saying because I can't remember the proper words in some cases. a humble thank you for any ideas "enquiring minds" wrote in message I have lots of cross over cables but where does the ethernet card hook to on an old laptop? What are the connection options that will work? Also what do you have to do to get a file tranfered from one computer to the other using this method? --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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Connecting laptop via
To: alt.windows98,microsoft.p
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:54:03 GMT, enquiring minds wrote: I should tell you that in a box somewhere I have a PCMIA 50 something modem that I bought and works with my thinkpad but being slow I can only use it for dialup on internet provider and i have highspeed so it is useless but is there a way to use the pcmia 50 something modem to transfer files to another computer. I don't care how slow it is because it is only a 1.2 gig harddive which is enough to be a problem for getting stuff off but not a problem for a slow process. I know I am not using the proper terms but I know you will understand what i am saying because I can't remember the proper words in some cases. a humble thank you for any ideas You can use dial up networking locally (ie straight out of the serial port without a modem) using one of the null modem drivers downloadable here. http://www.kevin-wells.com/net/ Jim. --- * Synchronet * The Whitehouse BBS --- whitehouse.hulds.com --- check it out free usenet! --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.92 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 |
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